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Gerald Harp wrote:
     It is a sad thing that a hate filled willful mob of
     Republicans have skirted the democratic process by
     negating the election by us of President Clinton.
MJ:
How so?  they voted articles of impeachment which certainly
do NOTHING save refer his alleged criminal activity to the
Senate.
What 'democratic' process are you referring?  America is a
Constitutional Republic where The Law rules, not a majority
of the people.


Gerald Harp wrote:
    They have done this by abuse of a Constitutional provision
    for impeachment meant to be invoked when a president abuses
    his powers and threatens to be a self appointed dictator.
MJ:
Perhaps you should READ some of the primary source material
written about impeachment rather than rely upon that which
you are TOLD to believe.  Federalist Number 65 by Hamilton
is certainly a fine start ...

   [impeachment relates to] misconduct of public men, or,
   in other words, from the abuse or violation of some
   public trust [that is] of a nature ... political [emphases
   in original].


<snip>

Gerald Harp wrote:
   ... have now weakened Clinton so that, in many cases, his
   vetoes of legislation that decreases low cost housing,
   emasculates health and safety protection for blue collar
   workers, softens environmental rotections, lowers medical
   services for the poor, squanders budget surplus money on
   more tax breaks for the rich, denies legal services for
   poor people, eliminates protections against racial
   discrimination, penalizes immigrants, etc. are less likely
   to hold.

   In other words, in addition to their visceral detestation
   of an inclusive President they now have a situation more
   friendly to their most damaging legislation and that aids
   their ability to block legislation that would strengthen
   families and make a good life more possible for the middle
   class and thereby make things a bit less top down and a bit
   less of being grateful to the powers that be for whatever
   dregs of consideration the unwashed are allowed.

MJ:
Preventing the above UNCONSTITUTIONAL efforts seems noble.

     I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article
     of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress
     of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money
     of their constituents. -- James Madison

     ... attend to what generosity and humanity require, but
     to what the Constitution and their duty require.
           --  William Giles, Virginia Representative 1796


     I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for
     public charity. . . . [and to approve such spending]
     would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the
     Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon
     which the Union of these States is founded.
           -- President Franklin Pierce, 1854



Gerald Harp wrote:
    I feel depressed about what has happened.  It is a big
    thing because of the openness and arrogance of the thing
    as though it hardly matters whether we, in truth and not
    by conceit alone, live in a democracy.
MJ:
Perhaps THIS is your shortcoming.  Why exactly do you believe
America is a democracy?

     Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and
     contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal
     security, or the rights of property;  and have in general
     been as short in their lives, as they have been violent in
     their deaths.   -- James Madison


<snip>

Gerald Harp wrote:
     However, it may be for the best.  Now that we have been
     exposed to the realities of the ruling elite, we may all
     act a bit wiser in the future and be a little less eager
     to vote for irresponsible Republicans.  We may take a bit
     more care for our democracy and realize how easy it is to
     slip into a condition of mindlessness where objective
     reality is trivialized and pretense is elevated.

MJ:
Yes, we have faced this condition in America for over 100 years
as the 'educated electorate' ceased its 'check' sought to 'balance'
this REPUBLIC against representatives from BOTH sides of the aisle
who merely have their OWN power in mind as they apologize for
wrongdoing, redefine words and concepts, instruct myrmidons and
FAIL to uphold, defend and protect the Constitution they swear
allegiance.  It is unfortunate that it will get much WORSE, before
it ever can get better.

Regard$,
--MJ

... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a
rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed.
The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to
the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain
quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner
of death to the public liberty. ... And what country can preserve
its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time,
that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take
arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and
pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the
blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
                      -- Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787

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