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I assume that another attack IS going to happen. We certainly cannot prevent it. We don’t have the intelligence data to prevent it. The credibility of the 9/11 movement is not the issue (The glass is half empty). The issue is what can the 9/11 (anti-covert ops) movement (which is hundreds of times larger than what existed on 9/11) do WHEN the attack happens? How can we dilute its intended impact (The glass is half full)? We need to start preparing checklists about how to save and compare information. Who has TIVOs to record key broadcasts that will be contradicted by later stories as the gov’t tailors reports to fit the cover up? Who has adobe PDF (the full suite) and can save web pages from major media sites intact to prove that certain stories were published? Who will be tasked with monitoring the hundreds of different media outlets, radio frequencies, sideband, shortwave and other electronic broadcasts? Who will start a master log of reports and events?
The greatest chance of solving the crime, just like at a homicide crime scene, exists in the first 72 hours. Remember that on 9/11 we had reports of a truck bomb at the Brooklyn Bridge and a suicide truck bombing at the State Department? That was because no plan is ever carried off perfectly and the bad guys plan on being able to tailor the media to fit the story as they spin it later. That’s the way it was done with JFK, RFK, MLK and 9/11 itself. Today we have an incredible advantage. There are thousands of us. We have the internet and the ability to store, record and share information almost instantaneously.
On 9/11, as the attacks were still in progress, I sent out an urgent message to the CIA-Drugs list suggesting that people turn on VCRs, tape recorders and start log books. I asked them to immediately start scouring the internet for information. It made quite a difference in FTW’s early stories which were the first to make critical points that have made it into mainstream media today. These are the points that are hurting Bush now. As one example, a retired CIA source (Leutrell Osborne) saved an Izvestia story on Sept. 12th that was later sanitized of several very incriminating paragraphs about forewarnings. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/izvestia_story_pic.html
I have a half dozen other instances where early work to save the evidence has made all the difference. It’s the reason why FTW broke almost every major 9/11 angle (except for the fighters) before anyone else did. And that includes many aspects of the insider trading, plans to invade Afghanistan being known before the attacks, and very early reports from the Indian press that led to Omar Saeed Shaikh, the $100,000 payoff to Mohammed Atta and briefings from other foreign governments. Within two days or so of the attacks I posted a message to that list suggesting that someone needed to look at the flight schools right away and Dan Hopsicker had done an incredible job with that – far better than I could have done.
We are so much stronger now. Let’s not worry about what the 9/11 movement might lose in terms of credibility with the masses. This was never going to be a quick or easy fight. I speak from 25 years of experience. Speaking as one with great experience on another topic; if people are afraid of being criticized for questioning the government they shouldn’t be involved. Struggles for survival should be distinguished from popularity contests. In a ham and eggs breakfast the chicken is involved but the pig is committed.
When the next attack occurs, if we keep our wits, plan ahead and follow the plan, we just might be able to break the whole mess wide open with quick and decisive collective action.
Mike Ruppert
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From: Honegger, Barb USA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:02 AM
To: David Lawson; Bob Fleischer
Cc: 911Truth; 911Comm
Subject: RE: [911commission] Re: [911truthalliance] Kucinich calls terror alert a government scare tactic: AP
Yes, but can we agree on that 'why' 9-11 happened?
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From: David Lawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:05 PM
To: Bob Fleischer
Cc: 911Truth; 911Comm
Subject: [911commission] Re: [911truthalliance] Kucinich calls terror alert a government scare tactic: APThat's a very real danger and one that I fear would be difficult to combat. The credibility of the 9-11Truth Movement could be undermined if an actual attack by terrorists is allowed to happen. And allowing (or executing) another terrorist attack would create an enormous advantage for the Regime by diverting attention away from 9-11 and onto the most recent attack. It would "validate" efforts to undermine the Constitution, and appear to also undermine the credibility of people like Kucinich and 9-11 Truth seekers. Also, efforts would then be diverted to investigating and exposing what really happened in the most recent attack (if it happened). Awakening people is a hard job that would be made much harder. So be it. But it's also brings up a point I made earlier, that is, we have to communicate not just the facts about 9-11, but also explain why it happened. IMO, our job should not just be about seeking justice or revealing the Truth abo ut what happened on 9-11, but ALSO what was gained by 9-11. Domestically, we're mainly talking about attacking the Constitution, subverting civil liberties through the PATRIOT Act, and the developing of a police state. Communicating the message now that Fear is being used to herd people people into a new political system would only bolster the credibility of the Truth Movement because the truth about any terror alerts or future attacks would already be encompassed in the message. Otherwise, instead of explaining the evolution of a plan being executed or the continuity of a conspiracy, the message would get bogged down by explaining the details of multiple assaults on peoples' psyche. In short, I think there should be a longer term component of our message that answers the question: why did 9-11 happen...
David
Bob Fleischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Of course, Bush could make good on these threats. Is Kucinich willing to
suggest that when it happens?
Bob
Michael Kane wrote:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/7581356.htm
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