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----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linda Minor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [cia-drugs] HUD to hold house auction online

The timing of their doing this is very interesting.

At the same time, still the same yah-yah. Destroy the file, sell the
property...much lower recovery rate. Allows all the high volume fraud to
go on.

On another note, it would be funny if this EDS-Lockheed fight so
scrambles the systems that it hickups the frauds....

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 23:42, Linda Minor wrote:
>         
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Bob
>         To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 11:50 PM
>         Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] HUD to hold house auction online
>        
>         Linda Minor wrote:
>         > Looks like Fitts' software which HUD stole will be used to
>         > sell of some of HUD's  portfolio of foreclosed homes.
>         > Linda
>         Her software made an open market in HUD loan resales.
>        
>         The network employed hundreds of mostly black inner
>         city people who were previously unemployed.
>        
>         Using the network were other people empowered to
>         make money trading in mortgages.
>        
>         The taxpayer got double what was raised by the former
>         insider market, dominated by Harvard Endowment, which
>         was Dyncorp, Capricorn, Pug Winokur. Dyncorp has
>         another name now.
>        
>         What was at stake was a largely hereditary insider trading
>         scandal masquerading as a market in problem loans, the
>         info and opportunity both for trading and exposure of
>         corruption, other dimensions of leverage enforcing a
>         class system and a COINTELOP agenda not just against
>         poor people but against the middle class and anyone else
>         not a partner in Harvard Endowment, which is a for
>         profit corporation like the British East India Company.
>        
>         These internet auctions would not necessarily change
>         anything because they would not open up the HUD
>         loan and resale information or market and because
>         the old insider trading system could be maintained
>         with respect to deliberately accepting unqualified
>         applicants. This is a touchy aspect, since we believe
>         in opportunity and empowerment, but there is room
>         for manipulation of HUD loans and Section Eight
>         certificates so that HUD loans go to applicants who
>         will default and Section Eight certs only go to those
>         who pay bribes, leaving others on the waiting list
>         for more than five years until somebody notices,
>         records are shredded, a few people fired, and the
>         cycle restarts. The advantage of failing loans is
>         that new fees are generated every time a new loan
>         is made for the same property, and loans are
>         guaranteed by the taxpayer. This can only go on
>         with a closed database, and that is why Catherine
>         Austin Fitts ran into so much trouble.
>        
>         -Bob
>        
>         >         ----- Original Message -----
>         >         From: "Catherine Austin Fitts"
>         >         <
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>         >         To: "Linda Minor" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kelly Patricia
>         >         O'Meara" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>         >         Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:39 PM
>         >         Subject: [Fwd: Google News Alert - HUD]
>         >        
>         >        
http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2004/0209/web-hud-02-11-04.asp
>         >         Monday, February 16, 2004
>         >         HUD to hold house auction online
>         >         BY Dibya Sarkar
>         >         Feb. 11, 2004
>         >        
>         >         The Department of Housing and Urban Development will
>         >         sell up to 4,000 homes in a two-day Internet auction
>         >         as a way to increase homeownership opportunities.
>         >        
>         >         Using the Internet to sell homes is not new, however
>         >         the department will publicize the auction in major
>         >         newspapers throughout the country for increased
>         >         exposure. Properties, which were acquired through
>         >         foreclosures, will be pulled from the marketplace
>         >         three weeks before the Feb. 27-28 auction. They will
>         >         be listed on the HUD Web site, allowing prospective
>         >         homebuyers to inspect houses and view neighborhoods
>         >         before submitting their bids.
>         >        
>         >         HUD's Web site will have instructions on how
>         >         interested homebuyers can find properties in their
>         >         states. More complete information on the properties
>         >         will available in that state. All properties will be
>         >         sold on an as is basis without warranty or
>         >         guarantee.
>         >        
>         >         The auction begins Feb. 27 at 10 a.m. EST and ends
>         >         Feb. 28 at 11:59 p.m. Bid results will be announced
>         >         Feb. 29 on the Web sites where the properties were
>         >         listed.
>         >        
>         >        
>         >
>         >
>         > Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page-
>         >
www.cia-drugs.org
>         > OM
>         >
>         >
>         >
>        
>        
>        
>         Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page-
>        
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>         OM
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