Re: [CTRL] Lucifer and the Cult of Freedom

[David Livingstone]

-Caveat Lector- There are always degrees by which people adhere to certain cults.  For instance, the great majority of Freemasons believe their fraternity compatible with their Christian faith, and are little aware of the broader realities of the organization.   So it is with Wiccans.  Essentially, they are followers of the occult tradition who chose to dissociate themselves from the the darker aspects for which it has been criticized.  Specifically, they deny worshipping Lucifer, and instead claim merely be be nature worshippers.   What they fail to recognize however, is that the pagan cult which they follow, the same as that of the Ancient Mysteries, is the same pagan cult at the origin of occult worship.  This is the worship of a dying-god and goddess, who personify the "lifeforces" of nature.   These gods were also recognized as one and the same androgynous deity, and identified with the planet Venus.  The other name for Venus is Lucifer.  Every year, around Easter, this god was believed to descend to the Underworld, and therefore became identified with that region.  That is how we get our modern notions of the devil.   This is also how he became the chief figure of black magic.  His primary symbol was the Sun, whose darker aspect was known as Saturn.  The worship of Saturn, or Moloch, among the Jews is mentioned in the Bible.    According to ancient beliefs, there is also a god for evil.  And so, to avoid his malice, or direct it against one's enemies, it is necessary to appease him, by making horrible offerings.  To Moloch, the Jews were said to sacrifice their own children.  These rites were also orgiastic, and performed in drunkeness, with loud music to drown out the cries of the child.    From these early rites were descended what later came to be known as the Ancient Mysteries.  When the Jews were taken into Captivity in Babylon, those who refused to repent for their paganism, instead assimilated it into their own interpretation of Judaism, now known as Kabbalah.   In Babylon, this early Jewish mysticism seems to have influenced the cult of the so-called Magi of Persia, who were known to worship Mithras, unless the two groups were merely one and the same.   Through the influence of these Magi, the mysteries were transported to Greece, but there in the name of Dionysus.  The theology of these mysteries is known as Orphism, and became the core teachings of Pythagoras, and later Plato.  And from them, to the rest of the Western world.   Best regards, David Livingstone http://www.thedyinggod.com     ----- Original Message ----- From: Jude Andreas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Lucifer and the Cult of Freedom -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/20/2004 5:31:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the same principle as that touted by modern-day witches, or Wiccans The Wiccans reed is "Harm Ye No One"    This is similar to the "golden rule"     The Wiccans also believe in the law of three.  In other words....what you do to others comes back to you threefold.   How does that compute with your article...which seems to lump disparate groups together.   <<, the Illuminati deceived the masses into believing that man no longer needed religion, but could discover laws by himself, through the use of "reason".>>      Don't know about "reason" but Jesus said "The things I do you can do...and greater things than these.  Jesus also said "The kingdom of heaven is within"       I am certainly not here to defend the Illuminati or the occult.   I am also not here to condemn innocents and praise religion  (which is SEPARATE from God) and overlook all the killing and atrocities that have been done in the Creator's name. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. 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