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--- Begin Message ----Caveat Lector- From: Mary Ellen Re: Pete Seeger: Two Tributes from Portside ReadersInteresting. I saw Pete in concert at Spoleto two years ago. I never sat down the entire concert. I stood and the back of the auditorium and "boogied." It's the only concert I've eVER been to that the musician got a standing ovation by just walking onto the stage. It was fabulous. He started with The Midnight Special and it only got better after that. I LOVE his music. Hootenannies were how I spent much of my highschool Friday nights. We'd sing the Peter Paul and Mary, Seeger, ets songs all night. Thanks for the trip down memory lane. === From: John David Baldwin Re: Pete Seeger: Two Tributes from Portside Readers I congratulate you for publishing the two tributes to Pete Seeger, whom I admire greatly as a person, particularly the one from Bill Mandel, whom I know. However, I must take issue with Jack Radey's piece in its condemnation of Bob Dylan's "apostasy." This is particularly curious because Mr. Radey praises Seeger for making "pure rock and roll" as well as blues (folk) music. Why then does Mr. Radey criticize Dylan for making rock and roll? The party line seems to be that Dylan abandoned "message music" after his first three albums. This despite the fact that he wrote and recorded "It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)," one of the most powerful, profound and all-encompassing protest songs ever written, at a time when he had supposedly "abandoned protest." He has also written the following (unfortunately still very relevant) lines: "Democracy don't rule the world You better get that through you head This world is ruled by violence But I guess that's better left unsaid." These lines were not recorded in 1963 (or 2003), but in 1983, for the song Union Sundown, which appeared on the album Infidels. On the other hand, there is much on that album with which I strongly disagree. As I've pointed out in my essay "Bob Dylan's Political World" (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/6752/guests.html#Political), Bob's politics have never been simple and they can't be easily defined. But he has always protested, and still protests, what he has called, in a recent album title, a "World Gone Wrong." He is a national treasure, one whose immense achievement (as both a studio and a live performer) can hardly be grasped, let alone measured, and the truth is not served by false and invidious comparisons between him and another national treasure like Pete Seeger. === From: Ed Pearl Re: Pete Seeger , Symbol of Justice at 85 I didn't see this until after I sent out my morning's message which, serendipitously provides an intro to this fine piece. I have a serious and personal critique of it, however. It doesn't adequately deal with the impact Pete has had on the many artists, producers and mass audiences whose understanding and standards of music were greatly influenced by him, or see his force beyond the progressive movement. Please read this with that in mind and you begin to have a sense of his power and effect. For what it's worth, my entire 'career' in music would likely not have existed without his direct influence and support. Pete transmitted the humanity and beauty of all human beings, providing the basis for a great tolerance and a yearning for a world very different than the one provided Some became actively 'political,' many more just loved the music or played the banjo, but few have not been affected by what he brought us - without demands.. That is his genius. _______________________________________________________ portside (the left side in nautical parlance) is a news, discussion and debate service of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism. 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