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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5092776/site/newsweek/
The Abu Ghraib Scandal Cover-Up?
Bush insists that 'a few American troops' dishonored the country.
But prisoner abuse was more widespread, and some insiders believe
that much remains hidden

Is Rumsfeld's Defense Department obstructing investigations into abuses at
Abu Ghraib (pictured earlier this month)?
By Michael Hirsh and John Barry

NewsweekJune 7 issue - The meeting was small and unpublicized. In a room on
the third floor of the Old Executive Office Building last week, Condoleezza
Rice grittily endured an hour's worth of pleading from leading human-rights
activists who want to see a 9/11-style commission created to investigate the
abuse of detainees in the war on terror. According to participants, the
president's national-security adviser didn't repeat the line that George W.
Bush had delivered to the American people in a speech two days before: that
the scandal was the work of "a few American troops who dishonored our
country." Nor did Rice try to make the case that by razing Iraq's Abu Ghraib
Prison-a Bush proposal that took even his Defense secretary by
surprise-administration officials would put the scandal behind them. "I
recognize we have a very grave problem," Rice said, according to Scott
Horton, a New York lawyer at the meeting whose account was corroborated by
another participant. "There are major investigations going on right now to
fully understand the scope and nature of it."

But numerous critics-not just in the human-rights community, but in Congress
and the U.S. military as well-insist that the current probes are still too
limited to bring full accountability. Some critics say Donald Rumsfeld's
Defense Department is doing its best to stop potentially incriminating
information from coming out, that it's deflecting Congress's inquiries and
shielding higher-ups from investigation. Documents obtained by NEWSWEEK also
suggest that Rumsfeld's aides are trying hard to contain the scandal, even
within the Pentagon. Defense Under Secretary Douglas Feith, who is in charge
of setting policy on prisoners and detainees in occupied Iraq, has banned
any discussion of the still-classified report on Abu Ghraib written by Maj.
Gen. Antonio Taguba, which has circulated around the world. Shortly after
the Taguba report leaked in early May, Feith subordinates sent an "urgent"
e-mail around the Pentagon warning officials not to read the report, even
though it was on Fox News. In the e-mail, a copy of which was obtained by
NEWSWEEK, officials in Feith's office warn that the leak is being
investigated for "criminal prosecution" and that no one should mention the
Taguba report to anybody, even to family members. Feith has turned his
office into a "ministry of fear," says one military lawyer. A spokesman for
Feith, Maj. Paul Swiergosz, says the e-mail warning was intended to prevent
employees from downloading a classified report onto unclassified computers.

More worrisome, critics say, is that the Pentagon is investigating itself.
Maj. Gen. George Fay, the No. 2 in Army Military Intelligence, is in charge
of the probe into whether his own intel officers directed the MPs to abuse
prisoners. But so far Fay has questioned no one above the rank of colonel,
military and other sources say. Among those critical of Fay is Sgt. Samuel
Provance, who was formerly in military intelligence at Abu Ghraib and has
told reporters in recent weeks that the Army is engaged in a cover-up. "I
had to volunteer more information than was being asked of me [by Fay]. It
was like I was adding to his burden," Provance told NEWSWEEK last week.
"There are so many soldiers directly involved who haven't been talked to."

The Army has tried to silence Provance. In a May 21 disciplinary order, a
copy of which was shown to NEWSWEEK, battalion commander Lt. Col. James
Norwood notifies Provance that he has lost his security clearance and is
being "flagged" for violating a previous order to keep quiet. That means he
is ineligible for promotions, awards or security clearance. Norwood appears
to threaten Provance with prosecution, saying, "There is reason for me to
believe that you may have been aware of the improper treatment of the
detainees at Abu Ghraib before they were reported by other soldiers."
General Fay's conclusions, Norwood warns, "may reveal that you should face
adverse action for your failure to report."

Yet no officer above General Fay's rank is likely to have to worry about the
conclusions of his investigation. Under military doctrine, Fay, as a
two-star general, "can only hold a one-star accountable," says an Army
general familiar with such investigations. "He can say someone higher up is
the proximate cause, but he can't actually have a finding that says, 'I
recommend Maj. Gen. so-and-so be relieved of command.' And if somebody tells
him it came from the CIA, what can Fay do? Nothing. He can only say it's
outside the jurisdiction of his investigation." Because Fay was appointed by
Iraq commander Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, he is also effectively limited from
taking his probe beyond Sanchez's command, says Scott Silliman, a former Air
Force lawyer who is now a law professor at Duke. "It would be difficult for
Fay even to question Sanchez," says Silliman. In fact, none of the five
investigations the military itself is now conducting is aimed higher up the
chain of command than Sanchez.

Pentagon officials said last week that Sanchez would be replaced as
commander of Joint Task Force-7 in Iraq. Formally, Sanchez's recall is
unrelated to the scandal. But military sources acknowledge that an
increasing body of evidence indicates his command has not been forthright
about when it learned of the abuses or what it did-and failed to do-about
them. The Red Cross first warned Joint Task Force-7 of the kind of abuses
seen in the prison photos last November, fully two months before Sanchez
launched an investigation. The general says he didn't find out about the
abuses until January. But two military sources say his deputy, Maj. Gen.
Walter Wodjakowski, was present at a meeting in late November to discuss a
response to the Red Cross. Also at the meeting was Col. Mark Warren,
Sanchez's top legal adviser. In mid-May Warren denied in reply to a NEWSWEEK
question that his office had drafted the command's response, which brushed
off the Red Cross allegations. But Warren later acknowledged under oath to
the Senate Armed Services Committee that his JAG team had drafted the
command's response.

The White House insists the president wants to conduct a "systemwide" probe
of the detainee issue. Administration officials point to a new "independent
panel" formed by Rumsfeld. A top Bush aide says the panel-consisting of four
members of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, including former Defense
secretaries James Schlesinger and Harold Brown-will address "the totality"
of all the investigations. But Rumsfeld himself, in his letter appointing
the panel, indicates that his interest is mainly in looking at future issues
like interrogation, force structure and training. "Issues of personal
accountability will be resolved through established military justice and
administrative procedures," Rumsfeld says, "although any information you may
develop will be welcome." (Former Rep. Tillie Fowler, a member, says the
group is now "putting together a timeline of who knew what when.")

On Capitol Hill, legislators on both sides of the aisle complain testily
that the Pentagon has turned into an informational black hole. Some 2,000
out of 6,000 pages were missing from the copy of the Taguba report delivered
from the Pentagon to the Senate Armed Services Committee. Pentagon spokesman
Larry DiRita last week called this merely an "oversight." But among the
missing pages were key documents, including the final section of Taguba's
lengthy questioning of Col. Thomas Pappas, commander of the 205th Military
Intelligence Brigade, the unit that actually ran the interrogations in Abu
Ghraib Block 1A when the abuses occurred. Sources say Pappas gave Taguba a
detailed account of why he believed that "policies and procedures" at Abu
Ghraib "were enacted as a specific result" of recommendations made by Maj.
Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the former commander at Guantanamo. Miller denies that
he exported to Iraq techniques used on Qaeda and Taliban suspects at Gitmo.
But Pappas even had some documents to buttress his case, sources say,
including one titled "Draft Update for the Secretary of Defense."

Some senators say the Pentagon has so far obscured two issues: who ordered
Miller to Abu Ghraib in the first place, and who in the Pentagon knew of the
interrogation practices put in place there. Steve Cambone, Rumsfeld's under
secretary for intelligence, merely said at a May 7 hearing of the Armed
Services Committee that Miller had gone to Iraq "at my encouragement." But
neither Sanchez nor CENTCOM commander, Gen. John Abizaid, would tell a later
hearing if they knew of involvement by civilian higher-ups at the Pentagon.
As one committee member, Sen. Robert Byrd, told NEWSWEEK: "I was stunned
that the two top generals [in the Gulf] hemmed and hawed and claimed they
had no idea whether the secretary of Defense or the civilian leadership of
the Defense Department played any role."

Miller himself has been accused of being less than forthright in a
classified briefing before Congress. In a May 21 letter to Miller, Rep. Jane
Harman chastised the general for "gaps and discrepancies in your
presentation" and for selectively withholding information in a classified
session the day before. Harman, the ranking minority member on the Permanent
Select Committee on Intelligence, added that she now questions Miller's
"candor." (A spokesman for Miller, Barry Johnson, told NEWSWEEK that Miller
"is drafting a response and providing additional facts.")

Even Bush's Republican allies, like Armed Services Committee chair John
Warner, want to know more. And now the White House seems to be constructing
a legal moat around the president. Its argument is that Bush's orders were
simply disobeyed. Rice told the human-rights lawyers last week that the
president's clear directives on observing the Geneva Conventions and
anti-torture laws were not followed. She also allowed that she didn't know
yet the full scope of the scandal, which seemed to conflict with Bush's
insistence that a few bad MPs were to blame. A senior administration
official insists there is no contradiction: "When the president talks about
Abu Ghraib in that specific, particular way ... I just don't think anybody
believes you're going to find it that widespread across the system." But
until all of the facts of the prisoner-abuse scandal come out, nobody will
be able to make a sound judgment about who is ultimately responsible.

With Stefan Theil in Berlin, Tamara Lipper and Mark Hosenball in Washington
and Melinda Liu in Amman

C 2004 Newsweek, Inc.






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