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Subject: Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Ujjal "Judas" Dosanjh:
Talking about TORTURE in Canada
<http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
"The inherent dignity and worth of the human person"
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, judith jennings wrote:
> Hi, J.J. again. What about food for political
> compliance. Is it not American policy to hand out food
> in the third world with the one hand, and in the other
> hand hold alot of strings attached?
Yes
This is a military
> stategy, where food is used as a weapond.
Yes and the Liberals of BC and Canadian Governments are using it across
the board toward destroying the entire social security system and denying
the essential services to the poor which are their constitutional right.
Step by step they are working at it and Medicare itself has to do in due
course. That is perfect logic. How can you sustain threats to food,
shelter and clothing which destroy health without destroying Medicare? The
medical professionals would have to PRESCRIBE food, clothing and shelter
ay some point to cure and prevent the illnesses related to other essential
service deprivation.
Thus you see the REAL AGENDA of the new Health Minister, Ujjal "Judas"
Dosanjh, as he described by Joy Macphail, MLA on VOBC.
If you do
> not comply, you will die, a slow and painful death.
Yes. That is the policy used across various BC ministries. Deny it is you
dare, Premier Campbell Deny it if you are, Judas Dosanjh.
> Are we allowing our gov. to do that in our country, to
> our own citizens.
It is happening every day.
That is one reason we need to monitor the tens of thousands of
"disappearing people", ie the "unreported and unaccounted for missing
persons" taken off MHR and other rolls.
Tell us where they are and about their health, Campbell and Dosanjh.
Not all people are able to comply
> with their demands, nor should they. I know people who
> are being squeezed too.
At the end of the squeeze is exposure-related illness and death. Don't
forget that. Judas Dosanjh won't.
POC
Bye for now J.J.--- Party of
> Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ---------------------------------
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, judith jennings wrote:
>
> > J.J. here. If people reqire help and assistance they
> > should receive it, as it is the mark of a civilized
> > country that it would care for the sick,
>
> Hi JJ:
>
> I watched a Romanow speech the other night and he
> said 100,000,000
> Americans do not have health care insurance. So
> imagine you have a kidney
> stone attack which is about as painful a condition as
> one can suffer and
> the pain may go on for many hours. No insurance and
> you can't even afford
> the drugs to kill the pain. So a lot of people
> states-side must be
> suffering from a lot of serious health conditions
> because there is no
> medicare.
>
> Now for talking about what we don't talk about. The US
> system is what
> Romanow called a commodity in the marketplace
> approach vs. our "public
> good" approach. The no-speak begins here. Those
> pushing the commodity
> approach cannot help but realize that if you control
> this commodity of the
> "essentials" for life and health, you control the
> population. Health-care
> destruction which POC is arguing is a kind of torture
> becomes the
> foundational instrument for world governance ... the
> new world order.
>
> "Health and welfare" ... so intertwined: that was once
> the name of the
> federal ministry wasn't it? Food, clothing, shelter
> and medical care.
> People suffer and die if any of them are inadequate.
> What Romanow et al
> dare not talk about is that those attacking food,
> clothing and shelter (eg
> Martin, Campbell and Campbell) as Charter committed
> essentials MUST ALSO
> ATTACK MEDICARE. Medicare cannot co-exist with the
> present "MHR Regimen".
>
> Why? Because any competent MD would have to prescribe
> food, clothing and
> shelter for those who are suffering and even dying
> from want of the
> essentials. Because such victims of MHR abuse will get
> very sick in a lot
> of ways and those illnesses are costly. Because the
> suffering must be
> sustained for these methods to "motivate" the victims
> and properly
> prescribed remedies under Medicare would NOT sustain
> the suffering.
> Medicare properly administered would destroy the MHR
> Regimen.
>
> It sounds like the MHR Regimen comes from states-side
> where it is part of
> a global agenda to control the masses by systematizing
> torture of innocent
> and peaceful populations by threatening destruction of
> their health.
>
> No-speak ... big time.
>
> POC
>
> even when it
> > is not as easy here to make a huge amount of money
> > from the needs, as it is in the U.S.--- Party of
> > Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ---------------------------------
> > That's all our new link says: If governments here
> are
> > so proud of their
> > torture methods, why not spell them out in more
> > detail?
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:56:54 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [BCPOLITICS] [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] re
> > Deliberately Induced
> > Respiratory Illness as MHR Torture Method (fwd)
> >
> > Dear Prime Minister Martin, Premier Campbell and
> Mayor
> > Campbell:
> >
> > Your "DOC Paradigm" is as factual as the
> > structures/facilities in downtown
> > Vancouver which give us the acronymn. Since you
> > believe that
> > person-to-person psychological torture (threatening
> > illness and death) is
> > a proper "motivational method" we are just asking
> that
> > you spell it out
> > in fine detail for the benefit of the entire world
> > with our new link
> > below. Presently as our audiotape soon to be sent to
> > UNHCHR reveals, MHR
> > "workers" only give a few details of how much
> > non-complaint "clients"
> > will suffer; only a few details on how much their
> > health will be destroyed
> > and their lives placed at risk if Overpass is their
> > next stop after
> > Dockside.
> >
> > POC
> >
> > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they have
> the
> > right to torture
> > and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says
> > otherwise.
> >
> >
> <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: elvira52 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] re Deliberately
> > Induced Respiratory Illness
> > as MHR Torture Method
> >
> > On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, elvira52 wrote:
> >
> > > Right on Baby,
> > >
> > > THE LONE ACTIVIST & Humanitarian award winner
> 11/03
> >
> > We've added a link from the home page to the "DOC
> > Paradigm" which sets out
> > the standard procedure at MHR Dockside: Go to the
> > killing ground at
> > Overpass or go into a forced pre-employment program
> at
> > Cook (Hence the
> > "DOC" acronymn).
> >
> > Overpass is one of the killing grounds where the
> > psychological torture at
> > Dockside is turned into physical torture and death.
> >
> > The point we are making on the new link is that the
> > "DOC Paradigm" is
> > FACT and that if the governments of this country are
> > proud of it, why not
> > spell it out more clearly?
> >
> > For example if the client-victims do not comply they
> > go to Overpass and
> > the kind of repiratory illnesses which you brought
> up
> > may be part of the
> > physical torture induced. Now we have audiotape
> > evidence which will soon
> > go to UNHCHR that MHR "workers" are telling their
> > victims SOME of the
> > physical horrors they will experience for
> > non-compiance, but why stop
> > there? Why not IMPROVE the "program" and add to the
> > motivation ... you
> > know how they did it with the gory smoking videos!
> >
> > When you show and tell how these DELIBERATELY
> INDUCED
> > illnesses function
> > they become at least as hideous as the more
> > "traditional" methods of
> > torture which MHR might like to use (eg pulling out
> > fingernails with
> > plyers) but dare not use because they are
> politically
> > incorrect.
> >
> > DELIBERATE? Beyond any doubt. The forms/procedures
> > like HR 2863 say so.
> > The front-line "workers" as captured on audio-tape
> say
> > so. KNOWING ...
> > PREMEDITATED .... SYSTEMATICALLY PRE-PLANNED MEDICAL
> > TORTURE.
> >
> > POC
> >
> > > Elvira
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "elvira52" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > re June 7, 2004 My House is killing me.
> > >
> > > > Respiratory illnesses of all kinds are also
> caused
> > and exaccerbated by
> > > > outdoor exposure, eg by forcing people into
> > homelessness. Sleeping on top
> > > > of a piece of cardboard with a light blanket
> over
> > the shoulders is typical
> > > > here, eg under the Portside overpass on Main
> > Street. Over 1,000
> > > > Vancouverites are DYING (not "living") this way.
> > > >
> > > > Mayor Dr. Larry Campbell makes sure that the
> > illness and suffering are
> > > > severe by denying even a pup tent for shelter.
> > > >
> > > > POC
> > > >
> > > > The Governments of BC and Canada believe they
> have
> > the right to torture
> > > > and kill innocent citizens. The UDHR says
> > otherwise.
> > > >
> >
> <http://www.geocities.com/universalhumanrightscanada>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *** What human rights code should guide homo sapiens
> > off-planet? Will the Universal Declaration of Human
> > Rights suffice? ***
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