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Adam.
There is a third alternative which is
consistent with the rest of his tour and that is self aggrandizement. Remember,
he also said they (he) were on a secret CIA mission.
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Bruce
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Devil's Advocate: Kerry's War Record I do not support the Bush campaign and neither do I support the Kerry
campaign. However, because I often debate with people close to me on these
issues, I have recently been put in the position of seeming to support Kerry to
some as I try to point out that my Republican friends are just as susceptible to
being manipulated and deceived by the politicians that they trust. This is
just one example of what I have found.
Kerry made a big deal of having been in Cambodia at Christmas time, an
illegal place to be internationally as we were not at war with Cambodia.
Do you think that he was saying this to draw attention to the fact that it was
Christmas that it happened or was he trying to draw attention to the presence of
U.S. forces in Cambodia? Whether or not he was there, I am asking if
thrust of his point (invalid or not) was that it was Christmas or that they were
in Cambodia illegally?
~~~
Now, there are serious charges. And let me just review very briefly the
most serious ones, or, or at least the most interesting ones. The first is that
Kerry lied about spending Christmas in Cambodia in 1968. Now, you know, not a
single one of his crew mates has said, Yes, we went to Cambodia with Kerry, not
another swift boat commander has said he went there or ever heard of anybody
going there.
And now Doug Brinkley, the historian, the Kerry historian, has said, no, he
wasn't there around Christmas. But you remember, Mort, that Kerry had said many,
many times he was there, even in, as a senator ...
~
TOUR OF DUTY author and John Kerry historian Doug Brinkley is rushing a
piece for the NEW YORKER: to set-the-record-straight on Kerry's Christmas in
Cambodia tale, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
Kerry has turned to author Brinkley for a "modification" after it was
exposed that Kerry was not in Cambodia during Christmas of 1968, as he once
claimed from the Senate floor.
The Brinkley piece for the NEW YORKER will now say that Kerry was not in
Cambodia during Christmas, but rather in January, publishing sources tell
DRUDGE.
~~~
Now I will repeat the comments and questions at the beginning of this
text:
Kerry made a big deal of having been in Cambodia at Christmas time, an
illegal place to be internationally as we were not at war with Cambodia.
Do you think that he was saying this to draw attention to the fact that it was
Christmas that it happened or was he trying to draw attention to the presence of
U.S. forces in Cambodia? Whether or not he was there, I am asking if
thrust of his point (invalid or not) was that it was Christmas or that they were
in Cambodia illegally?
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Is it more important whether or not he was there or that it was not
Christmas? Is it possible that the memory that Kerry said was "seared"
into his mind (probably largely a visual remembrance) involved a wreath here and
there, perhaps a ribbon somewhere? Is whether or not it was exactly
Christmas even important? Many memories have strong emotional associations
so it is entirely possible that Christmas was strongly on his mind, like other
vets there at the time, as he was unable to be with his loved ones.
Isn't it funny that the very commanders alleged to have contradicted
Kerry's record were just fine with Kerry's performance (to the point of awarding
him medals) but switched stances when he got back to the U.S. and TALKED.
Is it patriotism to lie to the American people or otherwise deprive such of
the truth, by silence or other means?
It's like the difference between a father that beats his children and
claims to love his children more than someone who does not. Who is
listening? Child abusers, that's who? Now I don't mean to say that
all Bush supporters or that the veterans in questions are child abusers; this is
merely an anology and I expect that those caught up in the mindset of blind
patriotism are not going to understand the bearing of this analogy on this
topic. This is testimony to the fact that one's belief system are often
blinding, whatever one's beliefs are. I hope this highlights the
difference between belief and knowledge.
To say that Kerry is responsible for the anti-establishment sentiment
generated by atrocities in the Vietnam war is no different from saying that
activists or other dissenters are instigators without which everything would be
fine. Yeah, everything would be fine for those whose interest is in
committing such atrocities.
Today, John Kerry may be as corruptible and/or corrupted as any other
politician. I provide this piece because it is absolutely necessary to the
health of our people that, on both sides of the political spectrum, we
understand that nearly all of us are being manipulated. There is no surer
way to ensure that you are being manipulated than to refuse to entertain that
you just might be.
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