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Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om--- Begin Message ----Caveat Lector- file under too little, too late..... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/06/nyregion/06matters.html METRO MATTERS A Setback for the City of Tolerance By JOYCE PURNICK Published: September 6, 2004 NEW YORK'S leaders are congratulating themselves that the city did not turn into Seattle last week. Mayor Bloomberg gave the police an "A-plus." Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly was equally pleased that the Republican convention came and went with no major disruption, calling his officers "absolutely amazing.'' The public breathed a near-audible sigh of collective relief. But while New York was thankfully no Seattle, where the streets erupted in 1999 during a trade summit, was it really New York? Since when does progressive, free-speech-loving New York City lock people up for days without letting them see a judge? Since when does New York City disregard the rights of people, even blatant troublemakers? Since when does New York City practice preventive detention? When it is host to the Republican National Convention, that's when. A total of 1,821 protesters were arrested and taken to Pier 57 on the Hudson River, a temporary detention center set up in anticipation of multiple arrests. Lawyers complain that they could not get in to see their clients. And a still undetermined number were held without being arraigned for longer than the 24 hours allowed by state law. Some might still be behind bars if Acting Supreme Court Justice John Cataldo hadn't found the city in contempt on Thursday, fined it and ordered the prisoners released. An overwhelming majority of protesters demonstrated peacefully, just as most police officers exercised restraint. But some demonstrators broke the rules and the old adage still applies: do the crime, do the time. The question is how much time, and if detainees had their rights violated. And what of those who contend they were innocent? (Not to mention the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Remember?) Of the 1,821 arrested, 81 percent - 1,480 - were charged with disorderly conduct, a violation that normally involves a few hours in detention at most. Another 282 were charged with misdemeanors and 56 with felonies, and 3 were juvenile arrests. Why the city couldn't deal with the volume of arrests is puzzling, since Police Commissioner Kelly had long said he expected 1,000 arrests a day. The courts and district attorney's office anticipated the multiple arrests and maintain they were prepared with extra prosecutors and judges. But they sat idle. "We were ready to go, but we never got defendants,'' said a spokesman for the court system, David Bookstaver. The same with prosecutors. "I think there was a failure to anticipate what would happen if they got that many people at once,'' the Manhattan district attorney, Robert M. Morgenthau, said of the Police Department. "Otherwise, I think they did a damn good job.'' THE bottleneck developed after the arrests. Detainees go through several procedures before they can be arraigned in front of a judge. In the last 10 days, those procedures were conducted at a snail's pace, apparently complicated by the decision to take all detainees to the pier first, and to fingerprint everyone, even those charged with minor violations. Fingerprinting is very time-consuming anyway, and there was no fingerprinting equipment at the pier. Everyone had to be ferried downtown in police vans for printing, and then the prints had to be checked against records in Albany. Critics see a calculated strategy, intended to keep disruptive protesters off the streets. "I told the judge I think it was deliberate,'' said Normal Siegel, the civil rights lawyer who is representing some defendants. Not so, said both a police spokesman and the Bloomberg administration's top city lawyer. Paul A. Browne, spokesman for Commissioner Kelly, cited the volume of arrests as the central problem. Michael A. Cardozo, the corporation counsel, agreed. He contends that the 1,200 arrests on Tuesday night created a backlog. "We didn't expect them all to come at once,'' he said. "While we had planned for 1,000 over a 24-hour period, we had not planned for 1,200 in a four-hour period.'' If not, why not, one might reasonably ask? Mr. Siegel says the problem began well before Tuesday, charging that people arrested as early as the Friday before the convention were held beyond 24 hours as they went through the processing paces - the fingerprints and mug shots, the examination of all personal items, from backpacks to water bottles. That took a lot of time and the effort of many police officials. There were apparently not enough of them to grease the system. Or maybe there were just as many as the leaders of a leery city wanted in what is still an eerie time, when New York is not quite itself. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! 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