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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0924-02.htm
 
Published on Monday, September 24, 2001 in the Boston Globe 
Going Backwards
Risk to Liberty Feared in Proposed Legislation 
by Mary Leonard
    
WASHINGTON - Dozens of immigrants have been pulled in by an FBI terrorist 
dragnet, 
and men who look like Arabs have been taken off domestic airlines when crews 
refused 
to fly. Almost half of all Americans think Arabs in this country should carry 
special identification cards, and more than two-thirds say they favor ethnic 
profiling, polls show. 

''This is an extraordinary time for our people,'' said James Zogby, president 
of the 
Arab-American Institute. ''We are going to pay the price for the criminal acts 
of 
people who are not part of America's Arab community.'' 



'This is a very dangerous moment. We get it all wrong if we legislate when 
people 
are convulsed by emotion, outraged in anger, and thirsting for revenge.


David M. Kennedy, author of ''Freedom from Fear,'' a Pulitzer Prize-winning 
account 
of the Great Depression and World War II
The price of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks is likely to be higher than the 
immediate backlash against brown-skinned people in the United States. Today, 
Attorney General John Ashcroft will appear before the House Judiciary Committee 
to 
defend a sweeping package of counterterrorism proposals that could affect the 
civil 
liberties of all Americans. 

Ashcroft has asserted that the legislation, which would give law-enforcement 
agencies a larger arsenal of surveillance tools, easier access to personal 
information, and new authority to detain and deport noncitizens for suspicious 
activity, ''harmonizes'' civil rights and national security. 

But many civil libertarians are cautioning Congress to move slowly, and 
yesterday 
Richard A. Gephardt, the House minority leader, said members in both parties 
have 
''concerns'' about the proposals. Ashcroft is certain to face tough questioning 
tomorrow in the Senate Judiciary Committee from Democrats Patrick Leahy of 
Vermont, 
the committee chairman, and Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, who are working 
to 
get the bill's immigration provisions removed or rewritten. 

''We have to find that balance between constitutional protections and ensuring 
that 
law enforcement officials have whatever tools they need to get the job done,'' 
Senate majority leader Tom Daschle said yesterday on ''Meet the Press.'' 

Historically, the nation has found that balance hard to strike. In the tumult 
of a 
national emergency, presidents, Congress, and the courts have acted to protect 
the 
public in ways that seemed necessary at the moment but had consequences beyond 
wartime and fell disproportionately hard on immigrant groups. 

Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist chronicled examples from the Civil War 
through 
World War II in a 1998 book, ''All the Laws But One: Civil Liberties in 
Wartime.'' 

''It is all too easy to slide from a case of genuine military necessity, where 
the 
power sought to be exercised is at least debatable, to one where the threat is 
not 
critical and the power either dubious or nonexistent,'' Rehnquist wrote. 

''This is a very dangerous moment,'' said historian David M. Kennedy, author of 
''Freedom from Fear,'' a Pulitzer Prize-winning account of the Great Depression 
and 
World War II. ''We get it all wrong if we legislate when people are convulsed 
by 
emotion, outraged in anger, and thirsting for revenge.'' 

The most notorious case of that occurred after the Japanese attack on Pearl 
Harbor, 
when Congress gave President Franklin D. Roosevelt the authority to impose 
curfews 
and detentions on Japanese-Americans. Some 120,000 people were sent to 
''relocation 
centers'' during World War II. 

One of the Bush administration's proposals would permit the Immigration and 
Naturalization Service to indefinitely detain noncitizens for possible 
terrorist 
connections, with no right to an appeal. Denise Gilman, an immigration attorney 
at 
the Washington Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights, called it ''truly 
frightening. 
It's like Japanese internment camps.'' 

Gilman said courts have ruled that all immigrants, including those who enter or 
stay 
in the US illegally, are entitled to constitutional rights ''pretty much the 
same as 
everybody else's,'' including the right to due process in criminal proceedings. 

David Cole has defended and won the freedom of more than a dozen Arab 
immigrants who 
were imprisoned, in some cases for years, on the basis of classified or secret 
evidence. In 1996, in the wake of the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal 
Building in Oklahoma City, Congress passed a law giving the INS the authority 
to use 
secret evidence against immigrants linked to terrorism. 

''This isn't the first time that we have felt under attack from within,'' said 
Cole, 
a professor at the Georgetown University Law Center. ''That was what the 
McCarthy 
era was all about. We overreacted, finding guilt by association and putting 
people 
under suspicion not for what they did, but for their identity.'' 

During World War I, Congress curbed civil liberties with sweeping censorship 
and 
antisedition laws. In 1919, President Woodrow Wilson's attorney general, A. 
Mitchell 
Palmer, responded to a bombing at his home by authorizing raids in 33 cities 
and 
arresting 6,000 people, most of them immigrants, some of them citizens, on 
suspicion 
that they were Communists or anarchists. Many were imprisoned, some were 
deported, 
but there was never proof of a plot. 

Cole said the United States has ''learned from its mistakes'' and is not going 
to 
imprison all Arab or Muslim immigrants while it wages war against Islamic 
extremists 
abroad. ''My real concern is that the administration is not proposing changes 
for 
this crisis, but changes that are permanent and in all likelihood will last a 
generation,'' Cole said. 

Many Americans support more security, even if it infringes on civil liberties. 
In a 
recent Los Angeles Times poll, 61 percent said they would be willing to 
sacrifice 
some freedoms to curb terrorism. 

Douglas Kmiec, dean of the law school at the Catholic Univerity of America, 
said 
most of what the Justice Department has proposed, from additional wiretapping 
authority to wider information-sharing by law-enforcement and intelligence 
agencies, 
is ''well-structured to address the terrorist threat. 

''On the immigration provisions, it is my view that those who come to this 
country 
are our guests,'' Kmiec said. ''The terms are that you are welcome to come here 
and 
pursue education and employment opportunities, but not to kill 6,000 
individuals in 
New York, Washington, or anywhere else.'' 

The full House is expected to consider the legislation next week, and majority 
whip 
Dick Armey said it might separate some measures and move on the least 
controversial 
ones first. Daschle said he hoped the Senate and administration could reach 
consensus on the language of the bill this week. 

© Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company 

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