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Subject: When You Hear "Freedom Fries," Remember, It's BUSH Who's
Frying It
Christine Boutin rattrapée par ses propos
controversés sur le 11-Septembre
LEMONDE.FR | 05.07.07 | 15h26 • Mis à jour le 05.07.07 | 18h33
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hristine Boutin rendant George Bush responsable des attentats du 11-
Septembre ? Pour le collectif ReOpen911, pas de doute. Sur son site
Internet, qui exhume une vidéo de novembre 2006, les tenants de la
théorie "conspirationniste" des attentats de New York et Washington
vont plus loin, affirmant : "Le gouvernement français, représenté
par Christine Boutin, envisage la responsabilité de G. W. Bush dans
les attentats du 11 septembre 2001."
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ghbc_la-ministre-boutin-et-le-11-
septemb
La ministre Boutin et le 11-Septembre - Version courte
envoyé par ReOpen911
En novembre de l'année dernière, donc, alors qu'elle n'est pas
encore ministre de la ville et du logement, Mme Boutin accepte une
invitation de Karl Zéro, qui la reçoit pour une interview en
compagnie de deux blogueurs, Natasha Quester-Semeon et Atmoh,
représentant de ReOpen 911 et membre du collectif Jeudi Noir. Ce
dernier attaque rapidement sur son sujet de prédilection : "Est-ce
que tu penses que Bush peut être à l'origine de ces attentats (les
attentats du 11-Septembre) ?" Réponse de Christine Boutin : "Je
pense que c'est possible." Et d'argumenter : "Je sais que les sites
qui parlent de ce problème sont des sites qui ont les plus gros
taux de visites. (...) Et donc je me dis, moi qui suis très
sensibilisée au problème des nouvelles techniques de l'information
et de la communication, que cette expression de la masse et du
peuple ne peut pas être sans aucune vérité."
PRÉCISION
De nombreux sites d'information se sont fait le relais de la vidéo
de ReOpen 911, ou plutôt de l'extrait de la vidéo. Car dans la
version intégrale, disponible sur le site de Karl Zéro, on peut
écouter la suite :"Je ne te dis pas que j'adhère à cette posture,
mais disons que je m'interroge quand même un petit peu sur cette
question." Plus loin, la ministre explique aussi que "c'est la
responsabilité de chaque blogueur de se faire son idée".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XmlG0yTUU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%
2Elemonde%2Efr%2Fweb%2Farticle%2F0%2C1%2D0%402%2D3224%2C36%2D931861%
4051%2D932119%2C0%2Ehtml
Présent à l'époque sur le plateau de Karl Zéro, Christian Dupont,
le conseiller à la presse de la ministre, tempère. Selon lui, "tout
dépend de la façon dont on présente les images". Les extraits de
l'interview diffusés sur la plupart des sites sont "incomplets",
ils présentent une version "à charge" des propos de Mme Boutin avec
pour seul but de "créer une polémique". Pour M. Dupont, la vidéo
est présentée de façon "tronquée". "On se contente d'une phrase et
on fait monter la sauce." Pour le conseiller de la ministre, le "je
ne dis pas que j'adhère..." de Mme Boutin suffit à la dédouaner de
toute accusation de "conspirationnisme". La ministre, elle, ne
souhaite pas s'exprimer sur la question.
Autre argument avancé : la ministre s'est adaptée à son public.
Interrogée lors d'une émission du Web, s'adressant à un public
d'internautes, "Christine Boutin ne pouvait pas purement et
simplement rembarrer ces gens". En quelque sorte, une réédition de
l'explication avancée dans l'interview même par Mme Boutin : "Les
sites qui parlent de ces problèmes sont des sites qui ont les plus
forts taux de visite."
Karl Zéro, lui, pense que "Boutin était un peu larguée", elle a
voulu être "de l'avis des deux" intervenants à la fois. Quoi qu'il
en soit, l'affaire n'a pas l'air de gêner plus que ça le cabinet de
Mme Boutin. "Elle n'est pas ministre des affaires étrangères !",
lâche Christian Dupont.
Oriane Raffin et Benoît Vitkine
--------------------------
French cabinet member in Sarkozy government: Bush behind 9/11 !
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1861119/posts
VIDEO (translation in the transcript ^ | 07 05 2007 | drzz
Posted on 07/05/2007 4:56:57 AM PDT by drzz
Christine Boutin, French minister of "social housing" in Sarkozy's
government since May 18, 2007, is in the middle of a scandal after
bloggers found an interview with her, dated November 2006, in which
she supports conspiracy theorists calling 9/11 "an inside job".
Here is the transcript :
Young French idiot -- "I wish to talk about the Bush government and
its threat for democracy. Do you think Bush could be behind 9/11?"
Minister Christine Boutin: "I think it is possible. I know the
websites which run these stories are getting more and more
visitors. As a person deeply concerned with new communications
technologies, I think that something being expressed by [so many]
people couldn't exist without an element of truth ... I'm not
saying I agree with the assertion ... but I am wondering [whether
9/11 was an inside job]."
------------------
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=15archive/
&entry_id=18296
In France, a senior pol dares to question the 9/11 tale
Today, nearly six years after the terrorist attacks of September
11, 2001, does anyone doubt the Bush administration and the mass
media's grand narrative about just who was responsible for those
shocking, sudden, well-coordinated and super-destructive events?
AP
France's Minister of Housing and Urban Affairs, Christine Boutin
(left), with her boss, President Nicolas Sarkozy
Well, yes.
For starters, on the strength of irrefutable evidence, the whole
world has rejected George W. Bush, Jr. and Dick Cheney's repeated
insinuations - which they used as a excuse to start the U.S.-led
Iraq war - that the government of former dictator Saddam Hussein
was somehow behind the attacks. That claim didn't square with the
evidence that Al-Qaeda was responsible, since the terrorist
organization led by Osama bin Laden was not operating in Iraq at
the time. In any case, today, still, there are some observers who
doubt the established, now-familiar media story about the historic
attacks that Team Bush seized upon to launch an aimless "war on
terror." Apparently, one of them has landed a high-ranking
government job in the cabinet of France's new president, Nicolas
Sarkozy.
That Doubting Thomas is Christine Boutin, France's new minister of
housing and urban affairs.
ReOpen911, a France-based Web site devoted to investigating what
took place in New York, Washington, D.C., and a field in
Pennsylvania on that fateful day in 2001, and whatever events might
have led up to it, is now featuring a video clip shot in November
of last year in which Boutin - at that time still not a cabinet
minister - is asked: "Do you think that Bush could [have been]
behind these attacks?"
KarlZéroTV Web site
French TV presenter/personality Karl Zéro
Boutin responds: "I think that it's possible."
Two 9/11-questioning bloggers and Karl Zéro, a French TV presenter/
personality, take part in the interview/conversation recorded in
the video clip. In it, however, Boutin goes on to clearly explain
why she might hold this view. It's because, she says, of the
numerous Web sites on which "masses" of ordinary citizens, in a
serious manner, have been asking and continue to ask questions and
to present evidence related to 9/11 that may lead one to doubt the
established, media account of the events. Boutin says: "I know that
the sites that speak of this problem are the sites that have the
greatest numbers of visits....And so, I tell myself, I who am
extremely sensitive...to the new techniques of information and
communication, that this expression of the mass of the people
cannot be without any truth." (From ReOpen911, quoted by Le Monde)
Le Monde reports that the complete version of this same video, from
which the brief extract that appears on the ReOpen911 Web site was
taken, can be found on Karl Zéro's Web site. In the longer version
of the interview, the newspaper reports, one hears Boutin go on to
say: "I'm not saying that I agree with that position" -- that the
Bush administration could have or did have anything to do with the
planning or execution of the 9/11 attacks -- "but let's say that,
nevertheless, I have to ask that question myself."
Stephen Chernin/AP
Workers searched for victims in the rubble of the World Trade
Center, New York, two months after the September 11, 2001 attacks
A spokesman for Boutin has criticized ReOpen911's presentation on
its Web site of a "truncated" version of Karl Zéro and the two
bloggers' now months-old interview/conversation with her, which,
the spokesman said, only serves to stir up "a polemic." Boutin's
statement in the complete interview - when she says, "I'm not
telling you that I adhere to that position" -- makes it clear that
she is not buying into any sort of conspiracy theory about the
September 11, 2001 events, the spokesman pointed out. His boss's
months-old remarks aren't worth whipping up into a scandal, he
added. After all, as a cabinet-level member of Sarkozy's
government, Boutin deals with housing and domestic concerns in
France's cities. Her spokesman noted: "She isn't the minister of
foreign affairs!"
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