For distribution far and wide! This is much more serious than the "war pork"; see text attachment. This is what happens when thugs are elected by the Pro-Choice sluts and recipients of federal dole. http://www.apbonline.com/majorcases/china/1999/05/13/china0513_01.html SECRETS STOLEN, BUT WHICH ONES AND HOW MANY? Conflicting Views of U.S. Security Losses May 13, 1999 By Jim Krane NEW YORK (APBNews.com) -- As the smoke clears from nuclear spying allegations against China, intelligence analysts are forwarding dueling theories about any resulting gains in China's military development. At the Energy Department's Lawrence Livermore nuclear laboratory, a visiting delegation of Chinese scientists posed with Edward Teller, father of the U.S. hydrogen bomb, in 1994. Congressional statements about the damage to U.S. security -- echoed in media reports -- suggest the United States' nuclear deterrent has suffered greatly at the hands of the Chinese. The United States lost "the crown jewels of our nuclear arsenal," said Rep. Christopher Cox last month. Cox is chairman of a select committee on Chinese espionage, whose yet-to-be-declassified report is due to be released this month. And The New York Times reported last month that computer codes copied from an Energy Department weapons laboratory "may have compromised the U.S. nuclear arsenal." But the CIA's assessment of the damage to U.S. security sounds decidedly milder. "To date, the aggressive Chinese collection effort has not resulted in any apparent modernization of their deployed strategic force or any new nuclear weapons development," states a CIA report outlining key findings from its analysis of technology transfers to China. Related Document: CIA Assessment of Damage to U.S. Security Translating knowledge into weaponry The CIA stresses that, while inroads were made into classified Department of Energy computers, that doesn't mean the Chinese gained vital U.S. defense secrets. And if Chinese scientists did manage to purloin weapons technology, they haven't yet been able to translate the knowledge into modern weaponry. The CIA report credits the Chinese with obtaining at least basic design information on U.S. nuclear warheads, chiefly the ultra-compact W-88. Espionage has allowed China to focus and accelerate its weapons programs, the CIA report states. A lack of evidence At the Federation of American Scientists, Steven Aftergood, director of the association's Project on Government Secrecy, sides with the CIA's analysis. Americans don't yet know exactly what's been lost, stolen or copied, Aftergood said. "The reporting on these allegations has far exceeded the available evidence," he said. "Certain information on the W-88 warhead and other weapons definitely were stolen. But exactly what was stolen on those weapons, we're not sure." Aftergood said the Chinese -- or anyone else -- can obtain basic information on the W-88 and other nuclear weapons from open sources such as scholarly journals and unclassified reports. Knocking CIA's accuracy But another China watcher, Bill Triplett, former Republican counsel for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the CIA's recent record in estimating a nation's weapons-producing capabilities is far from accurate. "That [CIA report] is written by the same people who predicted the North Koreans would never have a two-stage rocket," said Triplett, citing the recent North Korean test-firing of a two-stage rocket over the Sea of Japan. Aftergood said much of the espionage now coming to light took place a decade ago or more. To date, no corresponding modernization of China's weapons arsenal has taken place. "So if they stole it, they haven't done anything with it," said Aftergood. Truth is hard to find But U.S. intelligence gatherers may not know exactly what weapons the Chinese have produced or are close to producing. Triplett said Chinese counterintelligence officials might be pursuing a deliberate agenda of deceit. "We think the Chinese are engaged in a big 'development and deception' program," said Triplett. "They have more weapons and newer weapons then they say they have." And the purloined U.S. arms technology might not show up in China's arsenal for another five or 10 years, said Duncan Wrigley, an Asian researcher for the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. Wrigley said China would more likely use the weapons to face down some of its neighbors in East Asia, rather than the United States. Bigger worries: Iran, Iraq, Syria The three analysts found another facet of the CIA report more worrying. As the Chinese modernize their nuclear arsenal, the CIA warns that older weapons might be sold to arms-hungry nations outside the sphere of nations friendly to the West. "Anything that was ever sold by us or stolen from us, you have to assume it'll wind up in Iran or someplace like that," said Triplett. "You think it's bad enough that it goes to China. But it replaces older stuff that can go 'Bang,' and the older stuff goes to Iran, Iraq and Syria." Submarines in danger? One of the U.S. military technologies apparently compromised by scientist Peter Lee, a former physics researcher on arms projects for the departments of Defense and Energy, deals with radar technology that may be used to track movements of submarines up to an undersea depth of hundreds of feet. Since the United States relies on stealthy Trident submarines to carry a portion of its nuclear arsenal hidden below the sea's surface, Chinese ability to uncloak the submarines would seriously weaken U.S. defenses, Aftergood agreed. But Wrigley said the radar technology, if China is able to use it, would probably only affect U.S. ships in East Asian waters, such as the Taiwan Strait. "It's important to remember that China is not the Soviet Union and this is not the Cold War," Aftergood said. "China is not trying to establish an empire around the world, and we are not rivals with China in the way we were with the Soviet Union." Jim Krane is an APBNews.com editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). APBNews.com researcher Tom Martin contributed to this story. ©Copyright 1999 APB Multimedia Inc. All rights reserved. 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So mad that he decided to write a song. http://www.stevevaus.com/ Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: ....a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:13 AM To: Libertarian Party announcements list Subject: Release: war pork -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ======================================= NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.lp.org/ ======================================= For release: May 12, 1999 ======================================= For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ======================================= Senate's Kosovo budget bill is turned into despicable pork-barrel bonanza WASHINGTON, DC -- Quiz question: Which of the following items are included in the U.S. Senate's "emergency spending legislation," designed to pay for the U.S. military action in Yugoslavia? (a) Up to $1 billion in loan guarantees for steel companies, and another $500 million in loans for oil and gas corporations. (b) Foreign aid for hurricane victims in Latin America. (c) A measure to remove a certain fish from the Endangered Species list. (d) A plan to let states spend $246 billion in tobacco funds on programs totally unrelated to smoking. (e) All of the above. "If you guessed 'all of the above,' you're correct," said Steve Dasbach, national director of the Libertarian Party. "Under the guise of helping the military, opportunistic politicians are helping themselves by funneling money to their favorite special interest groups. As this bill proves, war isn't just another government program to Senate Republicans and Democrats -- it's just another pork-barrel government program." The everything-but-the-kitchen-sink spending was grafted onto a mammoth appropriations bill which was supposed to pay for continued U.S.-led air strikes on Yugoslavia. The final details of the bill are currently being hashed out by a House/Senate conference committee, before being sent to the White House. Among the items piled onto the Senate bill: * Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) is promoting $1 billion in guaranteed loans that will benefit just three steel companies in the USA -- one of which happens to be the Weirton Steel Company in West Virginia. * Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM), chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, is trying to funnel $500 million to oil and gas interests in the Southwest. * Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL) is currying favor with the fishing interests in his state by trying to remove the Alabama sturgeon from the Endangered Species list. * Senators Kent Conrad (D-ND) and Tom Harkin (D-IA) are pushing for $4.3 billion for Midwestern farmers in the form of crop subsidies and loan guarantees. * President Clinton is demanding up to $1 billion in aid for Central American victims of Hurricane Mitch, and another $100 million in foreign aid for Jordan. And, finally, "To show that partisanship really does stop at the water's edge during wartime, Democrats and Republicans are working overtime to use the war in Yugoslavia to promote another bipartisan war: The war on tobacco," said Dasbach. Evidence: * Senators Bob Graham (D-FL) and Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) are trying to ensure that states can spend the $246 billion extorted from tobacco companies last fall on whatever they want -- instead of on anti-smoking campaigns for young people, as originally promised. "Whether or not you support the war in Yugoslavia -- and Libertarians most certainly do not -- the way that politicians are rushing to squeeze pork-spending projects into this appropriations bill isn't just pathetic, it's contemptible," said Dasbach. "In fact, it's difficult to decide which is more despicable: Bill Clinton's military attack on innocent Yugoslavian civilians, or the U.S. Senate's financial raid on innocent American taxpayers," he said. 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