-Caveat Lector- http://www.reptoids.com/_discarticles/000000ad.htm *******The creepy part about these gatherings is when new pieces of information fit PERFECTLY with that which we already know. I went to the lecture on a lark. I love new information and unusual experiences. Mr. Icke is definitely entertaining...the crowd was there from 1 pm to 10:30 that night...with only a few breaks. And even then, most were eating sandwiches while swamping Icke for more individual answers. Three things struck me specifically. 1.] When he spoke of the evil these people are involved in, he specifically said, trust your own instincts. He assured us we had the equipment to detect the evil in the likes of Hillary and Bill. Mind you this audience looked like a high school PTA meeting. Very suburban, very white, very middle class. THEN, HE DROPPED THE BOMBSHELL ON ME SPECIFICALLY. Ickes said, "you want to see evil, look into the eyes of FEMA director -------."[sorry, I can't remember the name]. But I don't have to remember the name. I saw that Clinton appointee on television after some natural disaster, and was stunned by my instinctive reaction to his image. I said to myself and whomever was with me--"That man is evil. I don't even think he is human, he is so evil...can't you see it?" I couldn't look at the image...much the way I mute the television and turn the channel if I hear or see the clintons. 2] When Ickes spoke of the reptilian worship and symbolism, by these groups, throughout history, I was struck again. Last summer I took my daughter to Paris. We toured the Loire Valley castles, specifically le Chateaux Chenonceau, Chambord, and Villandry. EVERYWHERE, and I mean EVERYWHERE, there were serpants, and even more salamanders. Francis I was obsessed with salamanders...they were etched into stone on mantles, ceilings, and flooring. SALAMANDERS! At the time, I thought it kooky, now I think it's spooky. 3] Icke talked of their obsession with ritual, symbolism and astrological wheels, obilisks, and pentagrams. I thought of my visit to congress, two years ago...At the Senate Judiciary hearings, I looked up at the ceilings and wondered why in the hell, in congress were there so many astrological wheels and signs of the zodiac. On the floor of congress, on the ceilings. Icke's slide show included aerial photos of Washington, Paris, and London, the street designs and relationships between statues and buildings. It was creepy...again astrological wheels, obilisks, pentagrams. Then he names the architects and street designers...all free masons. Scoff if you like.,..the man answered more than a few of my questions and caused me to have many many more******* DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om