-Caveat Lector-

Yes, you are probably right about an inadequate response, but it does
adequately communicate how I felt at   reading it.
One of things I find painfully laughable is the first point he made -" the
white race made America what it is today". That is something to be proud
of??? How can someone be aware at all about what America is today and make a
statement claiming proud responsibility for it? Or is it somehow that whites
have created all the leaps forward, while the other races have just brought
it down? When I look at the people in power, that run this country, and
basically the world, destroying it and not caring about anything but their
personal power and wealth, you know what I see? White men. To me, that isn't
something that inspires great confidence and trust in my race. If the white
race is actually superior, then we should all be doing very well. But
somehow we are not, even with all those  white people running most
everything.
I think that the belief that we (whites) were fine until all those blacks
and other assorted trash we brought over to serve us actually got some
rights (that should have been theirs as god given anyway) is complete BS. I
think that's what those lovely white men in power would love for us to
think. That keeps people separated, and therefore less powerful. Keep people
hating, that way they won't get together and take a good hard look at us.
It's not us - it's non-whites, gays, jews, environmentalists, conspiracy
theorists, arabs, liberals, russians, chinese, japanese, etc.,etc.
The point is, we are where we are. The finger pointing needs to go the right
way! At the top, and at ourselves.

Anyway, I could go on about each and every point he made, but I'll stop
here.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Condit Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN
SCHOOL!


> -Caveat Lector-
>
>Dear Maggie --- your post is an inadequate response to Mr. Stroufe's 16
>points. I believe that verifiable history would support all, or at least
>almost all, of Mrl Stroufe's points. .... For instance, I am 1/2 Irish, and
>while I am a great booster of the Irish people (Ireland -- that land of
>saints and scholars) as a constructive force in society, it would be
>ridiculous for me to be offended by the historical evidence that inventors
>descended from the Germanic peoples have been responsible for most of the
>technological advances. ... furthermore, if someone had not provided me
with
>most of the technological advances, I don't think I would have ever
stumbled
>on them myself. Where I part company with most people who stress the facts
>that Mr. Stroufe raises (and I'm not pointing a finger a Mr. Stroufe here,
>as I don't know where he stands on what I'm about to say) -- is that there
>seems to often be a total lack of Christian charity towards the other
>peoples of the world. As goofy as the LaRouchees are on many points, I
think
>that LaRouche has spoken wisely in urging the US and European countries to
>help transplant modern technologies, such as railroads, and I would
>everything else, into Africa and Asia. This would be Christian charity, and
>the under-developed countries could pay the developed countries back
somehow
>after the technology was more advanced and in use. It would be cruel for us
>to have the technology, but stand back coldly, and, in effect, look down
are
>noses at the more primitive societies make them wait decades or centuries
>until they caught up (if ever). The development of these countries would
>more than benefit all in the long run. Jim Condit Jr.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>> Behalf Of Maggie
>> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:23 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN
>> IN SCHOOL!
>>
>>
>>  -Caveat Lector-
>>
>> Good thing for the students that are black children, huh?
>> People who think like you make me fear that we will never rise above this
>> tragedy called life on earth.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter L. Sroufe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Saturday, June 26, 1999 2:53 PM
>> Subject: [CTRL] THE 16 CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN
>> SCHOOL!
>>
>>
>> > -Caveat Lector-
>> >
>> > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
>> >   Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed.
>> > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
>> >
>> >
>> >...........................................................
>> >CELEBRATE HOMOGENEITY
>> ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> >
>> >I just posted the following on my web page at
>> >
>> >http://homepages.go.com/~theusaman/facts.html
>> >
>> >-Al-
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >THE 16 FACTS
>> >
>> >CRITICAL FACTS THAT YOUR KIDS WILL NOT LEARN IN SCHOOL
>> >
>> >           1. The White race made America what it is today.
>> >
>> >           2. American heritage is White heritage.
>> >
>> >           3. American law is based upon White concepts from
>> White European
>> >           thought.
>> >
>> >           4. The American all-White neighborhoods of the past were
>> >demonstrably
>> >           safer, and freer of crime of all sorts than integrated
>> >neighborhoods of
>> >           today.
>> >
>> >           5. The American all-White schools of the past were clearly
>> >superior to
>> >           any integrated school of today.
>> >
>> >           6. All great societies of the past which were White
>> as they rose
>> >to
>> >           power, when they changed from being dominantly White, to a
>> >dominantly
>> >           mixed race society, they fell permanently into decay. (e.g.
>> >Egypt,
>> >           Greece, Rome, Spain, Portugal.)
>> >
>> >           7. Racial integration of our neighborhoods and our schools
has
>> >forced
>> >           them into decay, just like the racial integration of the
>> >societies
>> >of the
>> >           great White nations of the past caused them to fall
>> into decay.
>> >History,
>> >           both ancient and recent American, have consistently taught
the
>> >very
>> >           same lesson. It is clear beyond any debate, that modifying
the
>> >racial
>> >           composition of America away from the dominantly White society
>> >that
>> >it
>> >           was as it rose to power, towards a mixed, racially diverse
>> >society, will be
>> >           catastrophic. It will plunge the great American
>> nation into the
>> >same
>> >           depths that the other great White nations of the past have
>> fallen
>> >into.
>> >
>> >           8. Based upon the extensive history of the Black race it is
>> clear
>> >that they
>> >           are not capable of creating or maintaining an
>> advanced society.
>> >They
>> >           have never created one advanced society in Africa. In
>> every case
>> >(such
>> >           as Haiti) where they have been given a thriving society, they
>> >have
>> >killed
>> >           it, driving it into the same primitive state that their
people
>> >have always
>> >           lived in, in their native Africa. (For any who is
>> foolish enough
>> >to doubt
>> >           history, we have the sad spectacle of South Africa playing
out
>> >before us,
>> >           which should erase all doubts.)
>> >
>> >           9. History has shown us that the Black race cannot create or
>> >maintain an
>> >           advanced society on their own. They therefore, as a people,
>> >cannot
>> >well
>> >           fit into an advanced society, as equals, living and working
>> >beside
>> >those
>> >           who not only are capable of building one advanced society,
but
>> >have built
>> >           numerous such societies in all climates and in all types of
>> land.
>> >
>> >           10. History has shown us that the Hispanic peoples are also
>> >deficient in
>> >           creating advanced societies like the White race has
repeatedly
>> >created.
>> >           While they have show ability that is superior to the
>> Black race,
>> >by
>> >           creating written language and some moderately
>> advanced societies
>> >they
>> >           have not been able to take the superior natural
>> resources of the
>> >South
>> >           American continent and do much with them.
>> >
>> >           11. Spain and Portugal sent soldiers to the lands south of
the
>> >Rio
>> >Grande
>> >           to conquer and take the wealth of the land. Instead of
sending
>> >families to
>> >           colonize, the Spanish men took native wives. The racial
makeup
>> of
>> >the
>> >           lands south of the Rio Grande is composed of American Indian,
>> >Black,
>> >           mixed-race and a small percentage of Whites thrown in. Their
>> >lands
>> >           have never thrived like the nations to the north where Whites
>> >colonized
>> >           and kept their race in tact, seldom mixing their race with
>> >others.
>> >
>> >           12. By "celebrating diversity" we are bringing in the
Hispanic
>> >and
>> >Asian
>> >           peoples into White America and we will cause the
>> North American
>> >           continent to become like the South American
>> continent. The great
>> >wealth
>> >           and stable society of the White United States will be
>> traded for
>> >the
>> >           poverty and instability of the revolution torn countries
south
>> of
>> >our
>> >           border.
>> >
>> >           13. Even if all races were exactly the same, if there were no
>> >differences
>> >           whatsoever, the fact that Whites created the nation of the
>> United
>> >States
>> >           of America, means that we are completely within our honorable
>> >rights to
>> >           restrict entrance into our country. We may honorably
>> allow only
>> >White
>> >           immigrants, or no immigrants at all.
>> >
>> >           14. The number of Whites, as a percentage of world
population,
>> is
>> >now
>> >           down into the single digits and falling fast.
>> >
>> >           15. Nearly all of the White nations on earth are now
accepting
>> >large
>> >           numbers of Nonwhite immigrants. The only one of the
>> three major
>> >races
>> >           of earth, that is in real danger of falling into a minority
>> >status
>> >in its own
>> >           racial home, is the White race. This could easily lead to
>> >extermination of
>> >           the White race.
>> >
>> >           16. Those who support American diversity, Nonwhite
>> immigration,
>> >           miscegenation, integration, and/or Affirmative Action, are
>> >either:
>> >           1) ignorant of the above critical facts; or 2)
>> blatant haters of
>> >the White
>> >           race and seeking to end its existence on planet Earth.
>> >
>> >
>> > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
>> >   Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed.
>> > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Bard
>> >
>> >Visit me at:
>> >The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government
>> >http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm
>> >
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>> >....a benefit/subsidy protection racket!
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