-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy ----- As always, Caveat Lector. Om K ----- <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:539872">EIR on British gold war vs. Africa Pt. II</A> ----- Subject: EIR on British gold war vs. Africa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 25 July 1999 04:22 PM EDT Message-id: <7nfrmf$7oe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> TONY PAPERT: Welcome to "EIR Talks." It's Wednesday, July 21, 1999. My name is Tony Papert. And with us in the studio is {EIR} economics writer Richard Freeman, and we're honored to have back on the show, after a long absence, {EIR} Africa editor Linda de Hoyos. LINDA DE HOYOS: Hi. TONY PAPERT: Hi. Rich, I understand that bankers have started stealing from their own banks on a large scale, at least we know this across Europe. RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes, absolutely, Tony. Although I just wanted to ask you -- did you hear that they caught the Wall Street rapist? TONY PAPERT: No, what happened? RICHARD FREEMAN: Well, what happened, was Judge Myrtle Pennywhistle dismissed the case, saying that his behavior was just an example of "irrational exuberance." (Laughter.) But yes, there's been an operation which Lyndon LaRouche has called "Operation Skim and Park." And in this operation, Eddie George, who is the head of the court, which is the Board of Governors of the Bank of England, has precipitated the sale of gold so that a bunch of wealthy families -- actually, a bunch of wealthy investment banks which are in the London Bullion Market Association -- could steal this gold for their own private purposes. And so what you have, is you literally have, in the last days of the financial system, sort of like the last days of the Roman Empire, someone going in and looting the temple. Well, in this case, they're simply looting the gold out of the Bank of England with Eddie George's participation in this whole operation. If I could give you a couple of the details -- TONY PAPERT: Yeah, how does it work? RICHARD FREEMAN -- to flesh this out. And let me also say that at the price at which gold is being driven, and yesterday gold closed at $252.80 an ounce -- $253 an ounce -- it's impossible, even for an increasing number of mines, to stay in operation, which means that in addition to stealing the gold, which is the main part of this "skim-and-park" operation, there's also the ability to steal the mines themselves, to buy them up at greatly reduced prices, because the mine operators are in very, very dire straits. But what happened was this. On May 7th, the Bank of England caught everybody by surprise, and said that they were going to sell 415 metric tons out of 715 metric tons of their gold supply -- more than half. At that point, the price of gold was $289 an ounce. It has since fallen $35 an ounce, plummeting on the news that the Bank of England was selling this. One fellow who {Executive Intelligence Review} spoke to, who is an officer at the Gold and Silver Institute, told us on July 20th, he said "we were completely astonished that the Bank of England would do this. They had always been a supporter of gold. The gold market is in London, where the fix is made every day, this caught us by complete surprise." The gold was sold to what's called the London Bullion Market Association, which are a group of banks. Just to give you a sense of them. J. Aaron (ph) and Company, which is a gold dealer; Bank of Nova Scotia-Mocotta; Barclay's Bank; Credit Suisse First Boston; J.P. Morgan, N.M. Rothschild, which is one of the five banks that sets the gold fix and so forth; Republic National Bank of Edmond Safra of New York; Union Bank of Switzerland, Warburg. So they were the ones who got the gold. They were the only ones declared eligible for the auction. It didn't go out to the general public, they got the gold. And they simply siphoned it off, on behalf of the oligarchy, with the coordination of Eddie George. Now, the announcement was May 7th, the auction was actually on July 6th, and that's when these guys simply took this gold. What we're looking at, is the possibility that this will simply keep driving the price down. Let me just say, the Bank of England, according to the World Gold Council, lost $600 million on the value of remaining reserves on this gold sale. So the stories will be -- TONY PAPERT: By depressing the prices. RICHARD FREEMAN: By depressing the price from what they actually got when they sold the gold. So the story will go out that the Bank of England needed to sell the gold, the cover story was, so that they could have a higher earning instrument, like buying a U.S. Treasury security with the money they would get from the gold sale. Well, they just lost the British people -- not that they care terribly -- $600 million. This was simply another example of just parking it and skimming it off by these financial institutions. This is occurring, as we have identified, but I think it's worth stating again, against the backdrop of a huge financial crisis concerning the Tiger Fund, the Tiger Management Fund, which on June 11th we know got into serious problems. The Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, and above all the Bank of Japan, intervened. And we know the Bank of Japan spent $22 billion depressing the yen, because the hedge funds had a position where if the yen kept rising, they would lose. And the Tiger Fund of Julian Robertson, which is based on Curacao, was in a very exposed position, as were probably 10 to 15 other hedge funds. So that we know that the extraordinary action during the month of June of the Bank of Japan, spending $10 billion on June 15th, and $22 billion during the month of June to depress the yen -- which did not benefit the Japanese people-- was an action to simply prevent the banking system from going through what happened last September 23rd, when the Long Term Capital Management went under. And the dimensions of this indicates that the world financial system is finished. The inside financiers know that. Lyndon LaRouche of {Executive Intelligence Review} is working from that standpoint, and therefore, the people who know what's really going on, as opposed to the mickeys who are still holding on to their stocks, realize we're in a post-collapse world. In such a post-collapse world, the view of the oligarchy is "steal as much as you can." Simply thievery, take whatever you can in precious metals, also in food and other things, and hold on to those things. And so therefore, the problem of mid-June of the Tiger Fund, and this gold thievery operation, this skim-and-park operation, are actually part and parcel of the inner circles of the British monarchy and their hangers-on preparing for a post-collapse world. TONY PAPERT: Let's just turn to Linda for a second. I mean, a lot of African countries are dependent on gold production and other precious metals. What have they done about this scheme which has already lowered the price of gold by 10% over two months? LINDA DE HOYOS: Well, there's been discussion that the International Monetary Fund should also sell its gold in order to give debt relief to the poorest countries and the most highly indebted poorest countries. And this has been protested by South African President Tabong Mbeke and other heads of state. And they are also protesting this sale of gold by England. The reason for this, is that the fall in the price of gold, is going to mean layoffs in the mining industries, and it's ultimately going to hurt these countries significantly. And any debt relief that they might get from this, is going to be offset by the fact that their economy has just taken a major blow. And there is discussion and layoff orders in South Africa already in the mining industry, under conditions in which, for example, in the South African development community in those countries of the Southern African region, it is estimated that unemployment is actually 80%. So what you're really talking about, is laying off the very few workers who have actual employment. And there have been demonstrations in South Africa, Ghana, Zimbabwe, South Africa, are most immediately affected. They have the best organized industries, and there have been demonstrations and protests to the Swiss, to the British embassies about this issue. So, they are at loggerheads not only with Britain on this sale of gold, but also ultimately with the IMF. If it's pushed through, as Jeffrey Sachs wants to do, for example, that the IMF would sell its gold in order to give debt relief to these countries, this is really -- TONY PAPERT: It's a complete fraud. LINDA DE HOYOS: -- you know, it's a fraud. TONY PAPERT: Because they've already written off those debts, and put reserves to cover them. And now they say they have to sell gold-- it's a total lie. RICHARD FREEMAN: Absolutely. Just to back up what Linda's saying, according to the South African Bureau of Mines, they've lost, since 1996, 103,000 mining jobs in South Africa. They're now threatened with a loss of another 80,000. So that's 183,000 jobs in a very, very fragile economy which has very high unemployment rates. TONY PAPERT: For each worker, I was told -- I'm not sure if it's true -- but that each worker, it coincides with your unemployment figure, that each employed person supports an extended family of 10 on average with his earnings. And as you said -- LINDA DE HOYOS: Well, yes. TONY PAPERT: -- and as you said, that's the guy who's going to lose the job. LINDA DE HOYOS: Oh, at least, because a lot of the mine workers are people who have come in, just men who have come from other countries and are supporting an entire village or something back in the countryside. RICHARD FREEMAN: Exactly. And the thing to look at in this, Tony, also, is that this price that Eddie George, who people should remember on June 10th said, before a Lord Mayor's banquet, that he knew that last year, when people were saying that there was a financial crisis which was completely out of control, he said that was not just hyperbole. That was true. So he knew this, he knows exactly what's happening with the situation with Tiger Management. {This same Eddie George has driven the price down below the cost of production.} The U.S. Geological Survey has reported that in South Africa, the average price of mining gold is $273 an ounce; in Canada, $267 an ounce, Australia, $261 an ounce, and in the United States, $257 an ounce. That's the average price. So, half of are above -- or some are above, some are below. We're now at $253 an ounce. TONY PAPERT: Below the cost of production anyway. RICHARD FREEMAN: Below the cost of production at least in your major mining countries. Those four countries are among your major mining countries. Now, in that setting, what we're going to see is a consolidation. And companies like Anglo American Corporation -- which, by the way, just this year has moved itself to be headquartered in London -- which gobbled up gold during the Central African wars, was behind some of the genocidal Central African wars, bought up gold holdings. It can buy some more. And the same gentleman I referenced before from the Gold and Silver Institute, told {EIR} -- he said "Look, with prices of gold shares down of these gold-mining companies, 30% to 35%, we're going to see a consolidation." And he said "Look for Barrick" -- Barrick Gold -- "Anglo American, Newmont Mining, which is partly owned by George Soros, and Rio Tinto, which Queen Elizabeth has an ownership share in -- look for them to begin buying this up." So they're going to buy {the actual source of production,} as this shake-out continues. TONY PAPERT: Now, turning to a broader subject, I mean, the prospect that the system is coming to an end and can't be sustained beyond the fall, or sometime in the next few months, should be looked at from the point of view of Lyndon LaRouche's famous Triple Curve, which shows financial aggregates rising at an increasing rate on the top, physical production falling at an increasing rate on the bottom, and then money supply rising at an increasing rate, although less than the financial aggregates. I know that you have, over the past few days, you have new information on both the financial aggregates end, and also the physical production end. RICHARD FREEMAN: Exactly. I mean, as you said, that's exactly correct. And the curve is a simultaneous curve. The three curves themselves are one function, where what's happening with the topmost curves determines what happens with the bottom, which then affects and undermines the ability of the topmost curve to even exist as the bottom curve collapses. Just to give you an example. We have rates of growth of some of these financial instruments, or at least things that are feeding the financial instruments, of 70% per year. I think the simplest one is to take what's called margin debt, or customers' margin debt, which is the borrowing by people from brokers to play the stock market. Between 1992 and 1998, this rose from $44 billion to $141 billion of margin debt, which was a 21% rate of growth. Then, from the end of 1998, just through May, which is the latest figure we have of this year, it rose from $141 billion to $178 billion, an increase by $37 billion. That's a 74.9%, or 75%, compounded annual rate. So it's growing -- it's almost doubling in the course of this year. And people should keep in mind that according to a person who's looked at this, the level of margin debt, which is what people borrow from a broker, the unofficial margin debt, what's called the hidden margin debt, could be two to three times that: people borrowing from their credit card to play the stock market, borrowing against a home equity loan, borrowing against a 401(k) retirement account. So that what you actually have, according to a fellow by the name of Raymond Devoe (ph), who's been on Wall Street for 49 years, you have two to three times the official margin debt. So, if they're saying now the official margin debt is $71 billion, it's actually {over $500 billion} playing the stock market. So, those rates of growth are going on. And it's I think an indicator, again, of the psychosis -- of the gambling psychosis that exists in the economy. But against that, we have some of the features of the collapse of physical economy. And I sort of want to highlight two. What's happening in the United States, where everyone is being told, still, that there's a recovery going, and no such thing at all exists, and then to look at the continent of Ibero-America, which is a continent of over 500 million people, to get a real sensuous sense of what happens when this topmost curve--these financial aggregates controlled by the bankers and oligarchical financiers, loot, literally loot, the physical basis to keep their financial bubble going. In the United States, the Department of Labor announced that in June, there were 35,000 additional manufacturing jobs lost. So that means the United States has now lost 487,000 manufacturing jobs since January of 1998. That's a half-a-million manufacturing jobs. This is bigger than the labor force of entire countries. And so, this is what the United States has lost. If you look at three critical sectors -- take steel, for example. Steel production has fallen 10% through the first five months of the year. Now, it's not just because of imports, which are high, and have been disruptive. But imports fell 6% this year during that same timeframe. So, why is it falling? Actual contraction of the economy. Machine tool consumption, through the first five months of this year, in the United States: they're down 39%. That's almost 40%. That's a rate you would associate with Africa, or Russia. This is happening in the United States. And lastly, farm equipment. If you look at the two-wheel tractors of greater than 100 horsepower, down 35% through the first five months of this year, the sales of them, but production follows sales closely. Look at the question of the combines and harvesters, down 48%. That's down almost half. So, steel, machine tool production, farm equipment -- and America produces one-third of the world's farm equipment and countries around the world depend on it -- these are absolutely collapsing. And just to mention one other thing, which I think will sort of signify what's going on, there's a company that produces heavy equipment. Its name is Harneschfegger (ph), and this is a company based in the Midwest, produces huge paper-mill machines and mining machines -- it just filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in the United States a couple of weeks ago. That's the condition here. Now, in Ibero-America -- I would just like to review, if it's okay, a few things that were prepared by Dennis Small, who's the editor of the Ibero-American desk for {EIR.} But to give a sense of how widespread this is, and that we've entered a {qualitative shift.} What I gave from the United States, you could say "Well, things are falling, and have been falling, and in the United States there's been a contraction going on for 30 years. There's {not} an economic recovery of nine years, there's a contraction of 30 years since the post-industrial society was put in place in the 1960s." But if you look at it, we've entered probably another {qualitative phase} of contraction. And the United States gives some indication of that, and then South America, Ibero-America, gives some others. So, we're going to just show a few graphics. But just to indicate this. Let's take industrial output. And unfortunately, we don't have a simple, same thing for every country, 'cause it's a little bit harder to get statistics in Ibero-America. But in Argentina, for the first three months of the year, industrial production is down 9.5%. In Brazil, we took Sao Paulo, which is a gigantic area. If it were an economy on its own in the world, it would be probably one of the 20 largest economies in the world. This is the heart of industrial production in Brazil, and Brazil is the heart of industrial production, along with Mexico, for all of Ibero-America. In Sao Paulo, industrial production for the first quarter is down 10.9%. In Colombia, industrial production for the first quarter down 20%. In Peru, industrial production down for February compared to last year, 11.4%. And finally, Venezuela, just comparing December of last year to March of this year, down 20%. TONY PAPERT: So, the physical economy every place we look, is in a rapid decline during 1999. RICHARD FREEMAN: Exactly, Tony. TONY PAPERT: I mean, it was declining before, but now the rate is far swifter. RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes. These are all declines in 1999. Then, look at the official unemployment rates, and people can look at it. Argentine, 15%; Brazil, taking the same Sao Paulo district, 20%; Chile, 9.5%; Colombia, 19.5%; Venezuela, 20%. And we know that these official unemployment rates completely understate what's going on. So, if you have unemployment rates of 15 to 20%, it's probably more likely 25 to 30%. Then, to take something that {EIR} has really focused in on, and say "Okay, well, we've got production collapsing, we've got people out of work. What are they consuming?" And here's what's remarkable. You've had a process, in many of these countries, differing from different dates, of contraction -- of their consumption levels. But what's remarkable is, let's look just at what's happened recently. If you take Argentina, staples -- which is your basic food and -- basically food and a few other necessities -- has fallen, in May of this year, compared to May of last year, 15%. In Mexico, basic food, which is tortillas, nothing elegant, beans, meat, corn, and chicken -- those are the major things -- that is down 20% in the first quarter. In Peru, down 6% in January. In Venezuela, food is down 12% in April, compared to last year. Now, if food or staples are down 15, 20%, that means people's living standards have fallen by that amount in this period of time. So then look at the currencies, what's happening with these countries' financial situations? Well, people can look at the next chart, which is "Devaluations." Without going through the individual figures, if you look at Brazil, Colombia, and Ecuador, you'll see somewhere between 27% and 42% devaluations for those countries. Venezuela, which is shown on this chart, has not fallen as much. And Argentina has not fallen at all, because they have a currency board. But Venezuela has been in the barrel. In Argentina, there have been emergency types of actions taken to try and support their currency. There were fears that the Argentine financial situation could blow out when a presidential candidate {merely raised the question that they might not pay the debt.} He said afterwards "Get real, I didn't say that. I merely raised it." But what type of financial markets are there when the world financial system starts to go kaflooey when someone simply raises that question? TONY PAPERT: And now, as far as I know, much of the Argentine government is touring the world to convince people that there's no problem. RICHARD FREEMAN: Precisely. And they're trying to get emergency infusions into Argentina. And if they can't, or even if they can and they're not sufficient, then the zero devaluation is going to turn into a very large devaluation in Argentina. Finally, I think the thing to do is to take the situation of Mexico, which we know intimately, and which Helga Zepp LaRouche has now visited, and galvanized last year a process of organizing and taking the LaRouche movement very, very seriously because of the success of this tour, and in which former President Jose Lopez Portillo, a very courageous person who actually acted in Mexico's national interest back in the 1980s to nationalize the banks, has said the United States should look to Lyndon LaRouche to what has to be done. If you look in Argentina and in Mexico, there's I think two distinct features to look at. First of all, there's steel -- AMSA, which is a major Mexican steel company, is now at the point of defaulting -- not exactly, but it's at the point of defaulting on $1.8 billion of foreign debt. A company called Buffete (ph), which is the second-largest construction company in Mexico, actually could not meet a payment of $100 million Eurobond. So technically, it is in default. Grupa Dina (ph), which is a bus and truck maker, went into default. So, these are major industrial concerns in Mexico going into default. Mexico has $53 billion of payments that they have to make of external debt. And most people jump to the conclusion and say, "Well, this is their government debt." Actually of the $53 billion, $27 billion is corporate debt, and another $15 billion is bank debt. So the problem is, is that in Mexico, the corporate and bank debt are being starved. And we'll get to the bank debt in a second, but in terms of the corporations, the banking system has literally contracted its lending by over 35% since 1994. So corporations are getting less money. That's what the problem is. And, just to conclude on Mexico, the difficulty is that the government spent, over the last number of years, through a company called Foboproa (ph), which was the agency to help bail out the banks, $65 billion. They just got another $23.7 billion of, quote, "financial armor" to help them through next year's elections. Everyone knows where that money is going to. They're going to try and use that to bail out again some of the banks. They've pumped in another $20 to $25 billion that's expected to bail out the banks. So actually, the banks will get about $90 to $100 billion worth of money. But the corporations and the consumption level of people -- remember, 20% falling in Mexico -- those are the things that are being written off in this kind of -- TONY PAPERT: Because the banks are not lending. RICHARD FREEMAN: Precisely. Precisely. TONY PAPERT: Now, we have reports I understand of some military preparations for the social conditions which might accompany a collapse of the monetary system over the next period. RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes. I think the way to look at this is the following. You can never look at this as strictly "a financial question." This is a question of power. You've got a London oligarchy, with Wall Street junior partners, but just as nasty, who are in a complete rage. And that the thinking of this oligarchy is that they want to destroy, still, the United States and President Clinton. They would like to destroy Lyndon LaRouche. They will destroy populations if they can. {They're in a murderous rage.} And so, when people see these financial events, or see this incredible stealing of gold -- I mean, when a government turns over its vaults to be looted by private citizens, it's an indication of the disregard for any sensibilities -- TONY PAPERT: Appearance. RICHARD FREEMAN: -- any appearance -- exactly. You're at a level now at which they are saying "We are in the final days, we are preparing for those final -- TONY PAPERT: "Either we steal it now, or we don't get it." RICHARD FREEMAN: Exactly. Exactly So, what we had, was a very interesting report which surfaced in the July 18th Sunday Times, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, and which also has functioned through the years as a sort of leak sheet for the Foreign Office -- sometimes knowing things before the British Foreign Office even knows it itself. And they had a story about "Operation Surety." And what they said about "Operation Surety," is that the government is preparing -- perhaps -- to pull troops out of Kosova, has an emergency plan to do so. It has a plan to do so, in case of a Y2K bug. And that if the Y2K bug got into trouble, then they would have to deploy these troops. They would have to be fanned out throughout London, they would have to be deployed into financial districts and other districts of England. Now, if we can put aside for a second the Y2K bug, and look at the plan -- or else this is quite a remarkable bug. TONY PAPERT: It's interesting. The plan points to the fall, where of course Y2K begins in January. RICHARD FREEMAN: Yes. This is what I was going to say. The plan starts -- exactly -- in September of 1999. And it's a plan that would run through the end of a certain part of next year. So, why you would need troops -- SAS troops, Special Forces troops -- pulled out for something that won't even come till January 1st of the year 2000, raises another point entirely, which is that what the oligarchy is looking for, is that they may have tired of Blair, or think that Blair is incompetent, and say he cannot do the job, and that they are setting the conditions for a military coup. Now, think back. Some of our listeners and viewers may not remember this, but way back in 1974-75, we had a similar situation where Heathrow Airport was militarized, and many places throughout Europe; in Italy, there was a militarization, in France, there was a militarization. And it was a period of extreme upheaval going on in the world, crisis all over the place, financial crisis -- the dollar had been taken off the gold standard in '71. We're in a similar situation right now, and the thing to think about is that the timing of September, is that many insiders are telling us that the next and perhaps last phase of this currency blowout would be September to November. So, if you think about that, then the placement of troops has much more to do with the murderous rage of this oligarchy preparing to take over its own country. And if that's the case, then think of what the preparations must be for other countries around the world. for more info: http://members.aol.com/eusebius7 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ----- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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