-Caveat Lector- > > Ashley Rye wrote: > > > > -> IUFO Mailing List > > > > And, again and again, when you get into the genealogy, my > > goodness me, that takes some time and sweat, you hit the same > > genetic lines when you're looking at people in positions of > > power. It seems to me that these lower fourth-dimensional > > entities have actually been working through what we call the > > Illuminati to actually control the planet. And, while all > > this was unfolding, I started getting some very bizarre > > stories told to me. > > > > Martin: I bet. > > > > Icke: And the thing about my life, Rick, in the last 10 years > > or so, consciously walking this journey-I now realize that I > > was unconsciously doing it all of my life-is that suddenly a > > subject heading will come into my life, and once it's > > appeared, I'm meeting people literally from all over the > > world, because I've been in 21 countries in the last two > > years now, and been back to quite a few of them, so I can > > start to see, as a result of traveling, these common themes > > that are coming up all over the world. > > > > And one theme that came up last year, May '98, it had been > > around a little bit but I put it on the back burner. There > > wasn't enough evidence to talk about it, really. And that was > > that people had seen people in positions of power, not > > exclusively so, but overwhelmingly so, turn into a reptilian > > form and then go back to human. And, in a period of 15 days, > > in May 1998, I met 12 separate people in different parts of > > America from different walks of life and different > > backgrounds, in my travels, who told me the same story. I > > thought, "What in the hell is going on here?!" > > > > When I came back to England, the sequence continued. I was > > asked by a couple of people, who were members of the House of > > Lords, in London, to go and talk to them at the House of > > Lords about the manipulation, which they also realized was > > going on> > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Transfer interrupted! > > > > e, and there was a lady at the meeting who kept saying some > > very interesting things about Diana, you know, the Princess > > of Wales. And, after the meeting, I said, "Look, hey, we > > gotta talk." > > > > She said, "We have." And we went off and chatted. > > > > I said, "Where did you get this information about Diana?" > > > > She said, "My best friend was her closest confidant on things > > she couldn't talk about to anyone else for nine years." Now, > > this lady has actually appeared in the press from > > time-to-time as being a close friend of Diana. Anyway, she > > said, "I think this lady might talk to you. She's never > > talked to anyone else." > > > > So, I went to see her and her name was Christine Fitzgerald. > > She starts telling me about the connection, all of the > > treatment of Diana by the Windsors, which was utterly, > > utterly outrageous. I haven't talked to this lady Christine > > Fitzgerald about these bizarre stories I'm being told by > > people around the world. Then, as the conversation unfolded, > > she said, "Oh, do you know what Diana's nickname for the > > Windsors was?" > > > > I said, "No, go on." > > > > She said, "The lizards or the reptiles." And she said, "She > > used to say, in all seriousness, 'They are NOT human!'" > > Christine Fitzgerald went on to tell me: "You know, the > > Windsors are a reptilian line, they're not human." And that > > "the British Royal Family, and its inter-linking bloodlines, > > are actually reptilian, they come from a reptilian > > extraterrestrial race." > > > > And I'm thinking, "Bloody hell, not another one!" > > > > And I came back here-about an hour and a half from London-my > > home is in England. I knew of a guy called Ted Heath, who was > > Prime Minister of Britain from '70-'74, and I knew that he > > was involved in some serious horrendous things, like > > sacrificing children, and all this stuff, because of people > > who had seen it. And, a lady I knew, who had contacted me, > > wanted to tell me about her experiences with Ted Heath, so I > > went to see her, not to talk about shape-shifting reptilians, > > but to talk about Ted Heath and satanic ritual involving the > > elite of Britain. > > > > And, again, but just as a quick incidental-when you follow > > these bloodlines from the ancient world to the present day, > > this satanic ritual, human sacrifice and blood ritual, even > > using the same deities in the rituals, is a common and > > constant, unchanging theme. So, it would be very surprising > > if the elite today weren't into this, because these > > bloodlines always have been, just like Bush is into it and > > people like that. Anyway, I went to see this lady and she > > told me about her experiences with Heath and stuff. > > > > In a place called Burnham Beeches, which is an area of > > forested land notorious for satanic ritual, among people who > > have studied these things, it just so happens that, although > > Burnham Beeches is on the outskirts of London, not far from > > Heathrow Airport, the place is actually owned by the City of > > London, the financial district which is the epicenter of this > > control. I just finished me cup o' tea-you know how you do in > > her house-and I was just making my way to leave, after she > > told me this stuff, and I said to her, just to throw away a > > line as I left, I said, "You know, I'm having some bizare > > things happening to me at the moment." I said, "I keep > > meeting people who tell me that they've seen people > > shape-shift into bloody reptiles." And, honestly, she grabbed > > her chest and she was gasping for breath like she was having > > a seizure. > > > > "Oh, my God," she said, "I thought it was only me." And she > > went on to tell me that she wasn't going to say that to me > > because she thought that even I would find that unbelievable. > > She said, "All that stuff I've told you about Heath and > > seeing him in the satanic rituals and all that stuff," she > > said, "I wasn't going to tell you what I also saw. He > > shape-shifted into a reptilian, during the ritual. What > > staggered me," she said, "is that none of the other > > participants were at all phased by it, as if it was a natural > > thing that always kind of happened." > > > > This has gone on, Rick, to the present day. I was in > > Vancouver, speaking, and I met about 4 or 5 people who told > > me the same story, including a business woman, who is a real > > feet-on-the-ground, you know, power-dressing kind of 5,000 > > clients business woman. And she said she had this > > relationship with a guy who was Portuguese, and he just > > turned into a reptile in front of her. > > > > I had just spoken at a financial conference about the > > manipulation of the world in the Bahamas, and two people > > there told me the same story. One told me how she was in a > > religious cult, and on one occasion, the cult leader changed > > into a reptile in front of her face. And she said, what was > > most amazing is that he focused on her, and the others > > couldn't see it, but she could, and she said she just went > > out of the room and started driving and never stopped, > > really. > > > > You know, this is now hundreds and hundreds of people who > > I've met from around the world, from many walks of life-a > > couple of television presenters who interviewed this guy live > > and, when they went back in the green room one said, "I had a > > very strange experience during that interview. The guy's face > > turned into a bloody reptile." > > > > "Oh, my God," said the other, "I saw his hands turn into a > > reptilian." > > > > And so this is-then you look, of course, at the ancient > > world, and you start to see constant references to serpents > > and the serpent race. Not that all references are literal-I > > mean, there's the serpent symbolism that's used massively-but > > when you get, like, the Nagas, the gods of the ancient Hindu > > religion, who were said to be able to take human OR reptilian > > form, and then, while this is going on, Rick, I thought, "I'm > > sure Cathy O'Brien mentioned bloody reptiles in [her candid > > and shocking book, with Mark Phillips, called] > > Trance-formation Of America." > > > > Martin: Yes. > > > > Icke: I got a copy of that, started flipping through the > > index, looking for reptiles, thinking, "My life is getting > > more bizarre by the minute." > > > > Martin: (Laughter) > > > > Icke: And, I'm going through the references in the book and, > > of course, Cathy talks in the book about being with George > > Bush and that George Bush-and she obviously took this to be > > part of the mind control, she took it to be a holographic > > image, it was part of the mind control-but when you put this > > other evidence together, well, hold on a minute. > > > > She talks about being with George Bush, and him saying that > > they were an extraterrestrial race that came from a "far off > > space place" who'd taken over the world, and no one realized > > it because they look human. But, she said, he changed in > > front of her into a reptile. She talked about being with the > > Bennett brothers, these politicians, political figures in > > America, and how they put her through a mind-control program > > in which they said they came from another dimension and they > > were inter-dimensional beings. > > > > And she had an experience during that time of seeing a White > > House cocktail party where everyone turned into bloody > > reptiles. And then she talks in the book about being with > > Miguel De La Madrid, in Mexico, who was, of course, President > > during the Bush years, and how he told her, she said in the > > book, the story of the Iguana race. And, Miguel De La Madrid > > said that an extraterrestrial reptilian race had interbred > > with the ancient Mexican people because they needed to create > > bloodlines or bodies they could work through, and these > > particular bloodlines could take either human or reptilian > > form. She says in the book that he actually shape-shifted, > > not totally, but facially, into a reptilian form when she was > > with him. > > > > Now, when you start putting all of this together, Rick-I have > > a simple philosophy-I follow information, and I'll go where > > it takes me. If you come from, anyone comes from, any belief > > or background, whether it be religious, political, or > > whatever, and they are rigid with it, then they're never > > going to uncover what's going on because that belief, that > > rigid belief, will start to edit information when it comes > > toward you, and you start editing-out information that's > > taking you away and challenging your original belief-system. > > > > I haven't got any of that stuff, fortunately, and so I just > > follow information, and it's taken me into these areas. > > Interestingly, too-and I'm just going back there, so I'm > > going to do some more on this-when I was in South Africa, > > about February last year, I met a Zulu shaman, a famous Zulu > > shaman in South Africa. I met with him for about five hours > > about various things. > > > > He knew about the elite and the manipulation and the > > extraterrestrial connection, and all this stuff. He's in his > > 70s now, I mean, he's lived a long time in Africa, and is a > > very great expert on African legend and stories and > > experience. And he told me, during this chat, that he got a > > call in March of 1997-this is before the August when Diana > > died-and this caller said that she was the Princess of Wales > > and wanted to talk to him. Now, he didn't believe this, at > > first, and he certainly didn't believe it when she said to > > him that she was calling him from what, he termed, a > > supermarket phone. "Princesses don't call from supermarket > > phones," he thought. > > > > Well, when I talked to Christine Fitzgerald about two months > > later, her confidant, she said, "That makes absolute sense, > > because Diana knew that her phones at Kensington Palace were > > tapped, and when she wanted a clean line, she used to go into > > a local department store," to what this shaman would have > > been a supermarket, "to use the public phone to get a clean > > line." > > > > This shaman told me-and he later realized they had a > > connection, one of his students was a relative of Diana-and, > > interestingly, this shaman talks a lot about extraterrestrial > > connections with humanity and his own extraterrestrial > > experiences, of which he has had some astonishing ones. > > Anyway, she said to him that she wanted to talk to him > > because she had something to reveal about the Windsors that > > would shake the world and she wanted advice in how best to do > > it. And, talking to a lady who I met after Christine > > Fitzgerald, a lady called Arizona Wilder, who claims to have > > conducted rituals for the British Royal Family, that Diana > > knew that they were actually shape-shifting reptilians who > > shape-shifted during the rituals and, I said to this shaman, > > "What was it she wanted to reveal about the Windsors?" And he > > said, "I can't tell you, it's just too terrible. I don't want > > to get into any more trouble." > > > > So, I said I knew that Diana knew that the Windsors were > > involved in the global drug-running operation and she knew > > that they were involved in that. And he just shook his head. > > He said, "Oh, no." He said, "It was much worse than that." > > And I'm going back there soon, so I'm going to have another > > go at finding exactly what it was. > > > > But this Arizona Wilder lady, again, came on the scene after > > Christine Fitzgerald. I found her in Los Angeles, or near Los > > Angeles, and I went to see her, not to talk about > > shape-shifting reptilians, yet again, because I wasn't > > talking about it at the time; I was just gathering > > information. I went to talk to her about the rituals she said > > she conducted for the British Royal Family, and the Bushs, > > the Kissingers, and people like that in America. Because > > Arizona Wilder, even though she's got red hair today, is > > actually blond haired, with piercing blue eyes. And the > > blond-haired, blue-eyed thing is fundamentally involved in > > all of this stuff, and what have you. Anyway, that is why > > Project Monarch is overwhelmingly, if not exclusively, > > blond-haired, blue-eyed people. > > > > I went to talk to her about the rituals that she says she > > conducted. So, we're getting into this stuff, and she's > > telling me about the rituals at Balmoral in which, you know, > > human sacrifice takes place in Scottland, the Queen's Palace > > in Scotland, and also at Glames Castle and the Castle of > > Darkness, as it's called, in Belgium, which Fritz Springmeier > > and Cisco Wheeler talk about in their book. And I had heard > > all of this from other sources, I mean, Christine Fitzgerald > > was talking about the stuff they got up to, but then, as the > > conversation unfolded, Arizona said to me: "But that's not > > the most bizarre thing that happened." > > > > And I thought, "Well, how much more bizarre can you get, the > > Queen of England sacrificing children?" And, she said, when > > the blood started to flow, they shape-shifted into reptiles. > > And, in their reptilian form, they're very, very different-I > > mean, like, the Queen Mother, this sounds funny, really-but > > the Queen Mother is an old frail 99-year-old, but that's the > > physical form in three-dimensional reality. But it's not the > > physical form of the reptilian that's working through her, > > according to these people. > > > > Visit Ash's Mural Gallery at: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/3517/Ash/index.html > > > > -> Send "subscribe iufo " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -> Posted by: Ashley Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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