-Caveat Lector- >From: "Robert Kemp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Fwd: WACO: More Evidence & Questions >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:30:43 EDT > > > > >From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: undisclosed-recipients:; >Subject: WACO: More Evidence & Questions >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:12:14 -0500 (CDT) > > WACO: MORE EVIDENCE & MORE QUESTIONS > > (c) (8/26/99) Ian Williams Goddard > > In addition to recently uncovered pyrotechnic > projectiles in debris from the Waco fire, The > Washington Post reports that there's also video > which supposedly shows a helicopter firing down > into the Davidian church on the last day of the > Waco siege. It's been said that such occurred on > the first day, but it's news to this author that > it may have also occurred on the last day (the > official FLIR video shows ground-based machine > gun fire at the church). As The Post reports: > > "Another never-before-seen piece of evidence > on the siege is a videotape shot by the Texas > Department of Public Safety that some experts > say appears to show machine gun fire directed > at the compound's occupants from an FBI > helicopter the morning of April 19. Federal > officials have said that no federal agents > ever fired on the Davidians. The video was > obtained by a Colorado filmmaker, Michael > McNulty, who helped produce the documentary > 'Waco: The Rules of Engagement.'" [1] > > Two days ago the deputy assistant FBI director at > the time of the Waco siege, Danny Coulson, admitted > that the FBI did use two pyrotechnic devices during > the final siege on April 19, 1993. [2] But he claims, > that they were used away from the main building, > hours before the fire -- a claim that the official > FLIR video suggest does not apply to devices other > than the two devices Coulson refers to. His admission > came after the discovery of what appears to be two > pyrotechnic devices in previously-hidden debris. [3] > > Danny Coulson also told The Washington Post: "I only > found out a week ago that these [pyrotechnic] rounds > were fired." [1] That's a relevant point he made > since I've been wondering where Mr Coulson was when > federal officials swore under oath that there were > absolutely NO pyrotechnic devices used. The Dallas > Morning News reports that Mr Coulson also "said that > they [pyrotechnic devices] were used with permission > from FBI supervisors." [2] Mr Coulson was himself > an FBI supervisor at the time, so this seems to > suggest that approval came from supervisors over > his head. These facts raise these obvious questions: > > 1) What "FBI supervisors" approved > the use of these pyrotechnic devices? > > 2) Why would pyrotechnic devices be approved > in conjunction with a gas attack that flooded > the area with potential flammable CS power and > its carrier, the solvent methylene chloride?[4] > > 3) Who told Danny Coulson a week ago that > at least two pyrotechnic devices were used? > > 4) Why was Mr Coulson, founding commander of > the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team and on duty at > the time of the incident, not informed of the > use of these devices until six-years later? > > Breaking news from Janet Reno [5] claims that she > had no idea about the use of these pyrotechnic > devices, which adds another question to my list: > > 5) Are we to believe that leaders are placed at > the head of federal agencies so that underlings > can run everything themselves in moments of the > highest magnitude without direction from or even > the knowledge of their agency heads? Come on! > > The Dallas Morning News also reported: "'The stance > has always been that they used no pyrotechnics out > there that day,' said David Byrne, who retired from > the agency in August 1996. 'There are some serious > criminal violations if they did. They have testified. > They have done it before Congress. They've done it > in court. They've caused other people to testify that > there were no pyrotechnics used. If that turns out > not to be right, then somebody will have some serious > problems on a federal level,' Capt. Byrne said." [2] > > Frankly, I'll be interested to see how it comes to > pass that nobody or only lowly underlings will have > serious problems over this. Since Danny Coulson > implies that pyrotechnic devices were only used away > from the main building and hours before the fire (an > implication that the FLIR video calls into question), > his admission strikes me as a cover story necessitated > by the unescapable fact that two devices were found > and therefore they must be accounted for some how. > It will be interesting to see Mike McNulty's new > documentary and how these latest findings unfold. > > ____________________________________________________ > [1] The Washington Post: "FBI Reverses Position On > Actions in Waco Siege FBI Reveals Waco Munitions > Were Potentially Incendiary." By Richard Leiby > Thursday, August 26, 1999; Page A01. > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/ > 1999-08/26/142l-082699-idx.html > [2] The Dallas Morning News: "Ex-agent says device > fired at Waco compound, Justice Department denies > item used." By Lee Hancock, 08/24/99. > http://dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/0824tsw1teargas.htm > [3] The Dallas Morning News: "Official disputes FBI > account of Davidian fire." 07/28/99. http://dallasnews > .com/texas_southwest/0728tsw100davidians.htm > [4] UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT > OF TEXAS http://www.indirect.com/www/dhardy/larsen.html > [5] The Washington Post: "Reno, Angry, Vows to Press > FBI on Waco." By Edward Walsh, Thursday, August 26, > 1999; 12:47 p.m. EDT http://www.washingtonpost.com/ > wp-srv/national/daily/aug99/reno26.htm > >------------------------------------------------------------ >GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm >____________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. 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