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MJ:
Capitalism has NEVER existed.
Please explain how forcibly taking from SOME and giving
this to others is moral.
SM:
CAPITALISM has existed for centuries and leaves no room
for truly representative government, be it socialism or
any kind of truly free market.
MJ:
A Free Market is possible in *any* economic setting.
Capitalism, however, means the complete separation of
economy and state, just like the separation of church
and state. Capitalism is the social system based upon
private ownership of the means of production which
entails a completely uncontrolled and unregulated
economy where all land is privately owned -- else the
ideal is nullified -- but the separation of the state
and the economy is not a primary, it is only an aspect
of the premise that capitalism is based upon: individual
rights. Capitalism is the only politico-economic system
based on the doctrine of individual rights. This means
that capitalism recognizes that each and every person
is the owner of his own life, and has the right to
live his life in any manner he chooses as long as he
reciprocates.
Since Government has ALWAYS asserted itself into the
equation, Capitalism has NEVER existed though many
imagine it has in their efforts to redefine words and
concepts.
SM:
When manipulators have amassed much of what they cannot
use, usually by force, forcibly redistributing wealth
is MORAL.
MJ:
THEFT is never moral.
SM:
Capitalism does not equal free market.
MJ:
Such was not stated.
SM:
It is precisely because of attitudes like the one you
put forth that a truly free market has never existed.
MJ:
In another thread you stated:
In the meantime, we need not attack ANYONE for merely
stating a fact. That only contributes to further
hesitation to state facts in the future and only
serves ignorance, as a result.
Why is it you cannot follow your own advice as I have merely
stated a FACT?
Hayek wrote:
From the fact that people are very different it follows that, if
we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their actual
position, and that the only way to place them in an equal position
would be to treat them differently.
SM:
More doublespeak. You would have us believe that inequality
is equality. I suppose war is also peace.
MJ:
That you cannot understand simple reality is no cause for
irrational fallacious obfuscation.
One can treat ALL persons the same and achieve equality.
One can treat ALL persons differently to achieve equality of outcome.
Only the first is moral as the second requires theft or slavery
of some at the benefit of others.
Regard$,
--MJ
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained
by stupidity. -- Hanlon's Razor (from Murphy's Laws)
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