-Caveat Lector- >From Joshua2- 9/17/99 ------------ >In a message dated 99-09-15 08:29:29 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Your Congress likes it the way it is. The corporate elite like it the way it >is. When are you all going to believe that those who have don't care at all >about the have nots? They really don't. They would hope that not all of >them die at one time, because the stench is annoying, but otherwise, they >don't care about the poor, the hungry, the children or the infirm. They >really, really don't. [Two days ago Das Goat said ... -J2] How true. But to give the devil his due, how on earth COULD anyone who is privileged, rich, and powerful have any concern --much less respect-- for those who are SO gullible and thick-witted, SO lazy, SO timid, SO lacking in the basic survival instincts that one finds even in the lowliest insect, that they are perfectly willing to ACCEPT not just years but centuries and even millennia of enslavement to the likes of THEM -- a quite readily identifiable CRIMINAL class, which owes all it has to its ability to lie, steal, cheat and kill without hesitation or remorse, with no camouflage greater than DISSIMULATION, simply PRETENDING that what they are doing is NOT that but indeed the OPPOSITE? Self-deluding FOOLS are unworthy of respect. WEAKLINGS incapable of self-defense are unworthy of respect. Proud, self-righteous HYPOCRITES are unworthy of respect. ASS-KISSERS and BUCK-PASSERS are unworthy of respect. This recital of negative human characteristics unworthy of anything but CONTEMPT could go almost endlessly, and these descriptions, my friends, can be accurately applied to OURSELVES -- for if it were NOT true, how can you explain the incredible phenomenon of our SUBJECTION to a class of moral monstrosities, these ugliest of human predators whom we, their prey, HONOR rather than DESPISE and reward with the POWER to rule us --power WE give them, abdicating OUR power-- <snip> ----------------------------------------- I don't know who this person (below) is or where she is from, but it's quite clear that people are dying all over the world because American Citizens don't have the brains or the balls to stop electing to the Corporate Capitalist Criminal Class the power to Loot, Shoot, and Pollute no matter what the consequences. --- Joshua2 This is what others think of Americans... ( J2 ) > SHAME ON THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. > FOR HAVING SO LITTLE CONTROL OVER THEIR GOVERNMENT > THE DEGREE OF CONTEMPT THE POLITICIANS AND PUBLIC > SERVANTS SHOW TO THE CITIZENS DISPLAYS TO THE REST OF THE WORLD > JUST HOW LAZY, IGNORANT AND/OR GREEDY AND POWER HUNGRY THE CITIZENS > OF THAT COUNTRY ARE. SHAME! > DESSEREE ROBYN This is why... (J2) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 09:32 Subject: Infofrom CIABASE files on the background to events in East Timor. Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist Below is some information from CIABASE files on the background to events in East Timor. Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE East Timor, Indonesia. in 1993 Philip Liechty, a former senior CIA ops officer based in Jakarta at the time of the invasion [of East Timor], told me: "Suharto was given green light [by] Kissinger to do what he did. there was discussion in the [U.S.] embassy and in traffic with state department about problems that would be created if public and congress became aware of the type of [American] military assistance that was going to Indonesia at that time. rifles, ammunition, mortars, grenades, helicopters you name it was going straight into Timor. it was covered under the justification that it was for "training purposes only" [but] without heavy us logistical support Indonesians might not have been able to pull it off". leaked minutes of a meeting between Kissinger and his senior staff in dc clearly show Kissinger recommending illegal export of American arms to Indonesian military for use in East Timor. the secret history of Suharto's bloody rise. john pilger. new statesman and society, 9/22/95 East Timor, 75-81 U.S. supplied Indonesian military with weapons used in counterinsurgency ops: rockwell ov-10s which are slow moving planes specifically designed for ci missions against an enemy lacking in anti-aircraft capability. used in vn for search and destroy ops and scorched earth missions. they can carry a heavy load of ordnance (3600 lbs) including bombs, rockets, napalm and machine guns, as well as infra-red detectors. described as one of the deadliest and most versatile light strike and ci craft in world; v-150 armored cars effective in ci ops where enemy has only small arms; bell uh-1 helicopter armed with 40 mm. grenade launchers and miniguns; and the beechcraft t-34 armed trainer aircraft that can carry 1800 lbs ordnance and be adapted for ci role. other equipment named. bulletin of concerned asian scholars v15, #2 1983 49. East Timor, 94 article, Journey to East Timor: land of the dead by john pilfer. "the people of East Timor call it the biggest prison island in the world." in 75, Indonesian military dictatorship occupied East Timor with the result that some 200,000 timorese, or a third of its population died. western gvts knew in advance details of almost every move made by Indonesia. CIA and other agencies intercepted Indonesia's military and intel commo at a top-secret base run by Australian defense signals intel near darwin, Australia. in 75 CIA ops officer, Philip Liechty, said Suharto was given green light by the U.S. there was discussion in the embassy and the traffic with state dept if the public and congress learned of military assistance going to Indonesia. it covered under `for training purposes.' liechty said if he or his colleagues spoke out "your career would end." the nation 4/25/94 550-52 Indonesia, 91 op-ed "horrid silence over East Timor" by Mary Mcgrory. comments on 12 nov 91 massacre of Timorese at hands of U.S. supplied Indonesian military and lack of U.S. press coverage. Washington Post 11/19/91 a2 Indonesia, timor, 93 "Timor's untelevised terror: as world looks elsewhere, a small island suffers a hideous war." Washington Post 3/14/93 c2 East Timor, 60-96 the profits of genocide, Indonesia's brutal occupation of East Timor. Z magazine 5/96 19-26 new zealand, 47-96 new zealand's involvement in electronic spying against russia, china, vietnam, france, japan, argentina, bougainville, East Timor, vanuatu and other south pacific states usually on the behalf (of england or the U.S.). publicly claimed benefits of intel cooperation, e.g., economic intel and info on terrorism not really true. hager, n. (1996). secret power: new zealand's role in the international spy network 15 Indonesia, East Timor, 75-92 op-ed by Philip Liechty "How Indonesia engulfed East Timor." Discusses Indonesians in 75 dressed in civilian clothes posing as members of 4 indigenous Timorese political parties seeking "integration with Indonesia." U.S. allowed this to happen to appease Indonesia. Discusses massacre of 91 Washington Post 1/6/92 a19 Indonesia, East Timor, 75 months before Indonesian military launched full scale invasion of East Timor in december 1975, ford admin, with intel supplied by CIA and national security agency, knew about Indonesian's determination to annex East Timor. Counterspy winter 82 5 Australia secret intelligence service (asis) there are formal agreement among ukusa countries regards signals intel, ocean surveillance and radio monitoring no agreements re humint, however significant cooperation between U.S. and aust. asis provided significant help in chile, thailand, Indonesia and cambodia. colby then dir 76 said: asis helped reporting re: portuguese timor & nvn; reporting from Indonesian sources; ops and reporting on chile; unique ops and reporting on cambodia. while CIA not in chile asis help coverage internal developments. 2 santiago station assets turned over to asis & produced 58 disseminated reports thru 1/72-7/73. same comments apply re cambodia. hope report said asis rcvd humint from CIA: 588 reports in 74 and 794 in 75. Richelson, J. T. (1985). the U.S. intelligence Community 205 Australia. Australian security intel organization, ASIO, and its work for the CIA in cambodia, chile, and timor. freney, d. (1977). the CIA's Australian connection 39-42 Indonesia, 91 op-ed "maintaining standards of tyranny" by colman mccarthy. comments on state dept's funding of Indonesian military in light of East Timor massacre. Washington Post 11/26/91 a2 new zealand, 47-96 new zealand's involvement in electronic spying against russia, china, vietnam, france, japan, argentina, bougainville, East Timor, vanuatu and other south pacific states usually on the behalf (of england or the U.S.). publicly claimed benefits of intel cooperation, e.g., economic intel and info on terrorism not really true. hager, n. (1996). secret power: new zealand's role in the international spy network 15 East Timor, 91-92 article, massacre on prime time: making an issue of East Timor. details U.S. support for Indonesian armed forces over the years even in view of the repression in East Timor. The Nation 2/10/92 162-3 Indonesia, 92 in protest human of rights violations in East Timor, congress deleted 2.3 million in international military and education and training (IMET) for Indonesia. congress also required its approval for economic aid. supporters of Timor now hope to stop U.S. sales of weapons that exceeded $250 million in 90. Bulletin of Concerned Asian Scholars 51 Indonesia, 93 U.S. reversing itself, joined a tough UN resolution criticizing Indonesia on human rights and clinton talked to Suharto re violations in East Timor. Washington Post 7/9/90 editorial a20 Indonesia, East Timor, 93 although repression in East Timor is worse that any time since 70s, change in washington has indicated things can be turned around. U.S. has reversed itself and allowed UN human rights commission to criticize Indonesia. bulletin of concerned asian scholars 3/93 82-4 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. 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