-Caveat Lector- ----Original Message Follows---- From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chaos magicians may practice the techniques of chaos magick but they must do so within a specific paradigm, which roughly means that a chaos magician must believe in something in order to obtain results........Chaos magicians are Setians, Satanists, Santeros, Sorcerers, Kitchen Witches, Thelemites, Cabalists, etc. etc. ...................................................................... SM: Magick is defined as manifesting situations in accordance with the will. This is the most popular definition among actual magicians and as a result you can see that there are millions of people that fit into the definition of magicians, according to magicians. For instance, the US goverment does not get its way in the world by kicking everyone's ass that disobeys. It gets its way from most people and this happens because when the US DOES kick someone's ass, it is highly publicized and very dramatic. This scares most into obeying even though, theoretically, the US does not have the capability of truly ENFORCING its will in all the places that it counts on as its puppets. It is no different than seeing how many people are afraid of the dark. Most of these people will NEVER experience something menacing and evil coming out of the dark but because it has been drilled into their heads by media magicians [producers and directors]they will always have something to fear. There will always be darkness and as a result, people will always be afraid [as long as this brainwashing continues], therefore people will always be easily manipulated. This situation is called by policing bodies "maintaining a threat." It is the THREAT of reprisal that keeps most in line, not incessant reprisal itself. This is a psychological head game and most psychological head games are forms of magick. In this case the magicians are media spin doctors. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om