-Caveat Lector- ----- Original Message ----- From: David Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:12 PM Subject: 240-Constitution Post Number 240: Constitution The Constitution. How many times have I heard that term. Hard to begin to think of the total number of times. And what is even harder to believe is how many times I have thought that I had "the Constitution" figured out. Maybe I do now, although I would not bet my freedom on it! The simple fact of the matter is that none of us were present when the arrangements for the Constitution were finalized. We do not know what the planning was for it, nor do we understand all of the secret meetings that undoubtedly took place around the conception and introduction of the Constitution. But, we can accurately measure the intent of the Constitution by simply looking at what the result of the Constitution has been; it has created a class of people who are not answerable for their actions. To understand that, I give you Bill and Hillary Clinton, and their side-kick, Al Gore. Al Gore gave everyone the answer that we have been looking for. Seven times, 7 TIMES! On national television, during the press conference when he was being questioned about his role in the illegal phone calls soliciting campaign donations from the White House, he told the nation that "there is no controlling legal authority." Perhaps Al Gore knows something that most Americans are only dimly, if at all, aware of. What Al Gore revealed is the original reason for the Constitution. He revealed that within the Constitution is a series of provisions which would put the European system of royal privilege and private law back in place in America. This would be accomplished by creating a separate jurisdiction where there is no controlling legal authority. For reference, read Article I, Section 8, Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; and this is the case law (from 1804) which explains what this clause is all about: In Downes v. Bidwell, the Supreme Court ruled that "exclusive" meant exactly that; EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction, with no control from the Constitution. (In Downes v. Bidwell, the Court ruled that "exclusive" meant "without consideration of the Constitutional restraints...") A few years later, the Supreme Court confirmed this ruling in Hooven v. Evatt, But this is all information that I explain in Part II of my Series, so, I suggest that you read it. This Post, however, is for new information; information that is designed to lift more of the scales from our eyes. And remember, as you read this, the Esquires that you deal with, voluntarily, can not and will not explain this material to you. They can not, for their privileges depend upon keeping this information carefully hidden. In addition, if you attempt to take this information into their private courts, you will lose. Their private courts are not for you; they are for government employees, and for subjects of Congress. If you are subject to their courts, you can not own land, nor can you be protected by the restrictions written into the Bill of Rights. And you do owe the so-called Income Tax, so, prepare to pay up. Another reason for this Post is the simple one; there is a solution to what is happening to America, but it is an individual solution, and not a group or national solution. Within America are two separate, distinct jurisdictions, and the original provisions for the Constitution permitted the common people to voluntarily chose whether or not they wanted to be associated with Commerce, and hence with the privileges of the King, or preferred to be free. The choice is yours, and the solution is available. The largest part of this solution is giving enough Americans the answers so that those who chose this solution are no longer considered weird, different or, as is promoted by the major media, dangerous. We simply wish to be left alone, which does not suit the parasites of man's government well at all! And it is only by this education process that any progress will be made in controlling the monster that the so-called government has become. Knowing that this Post was coming is why, to those on the List Groups, I have sent out some of the posts that I have about the deep involvement of the Vatican in money and poli-tics. Read on, my friends, and learn another small piece of the True History of America. The following came about because of a series of messages that went over the internet (with about 3 different people contributing besides myself), and which certainly helped to make some things much clearer! Gee, fellows I have to step in here and correct some misconceptions. You have to read Montgomery's works and the Informer's on this subject. I, the Informer, am only going to make a few comments in all caps so you know who is talking at any point below. It is NOT going to be all inclusive, as our works supply the rest of the story. This can become an endless debate and I don't have the time to be so lucky to indulge in such debate ad on infinitum. (I refer to this work, by the Informer, in my Series, and highly recommend that all Americans read it. - David) Further clarification: Explanation for Constitution Blayne wrote and made many good points. Let me hone the edge of his sword of truth. This is long but people need to learn the things that have been kept from them. hawkiye wrote: This was forwarded to me, it's right on. You have to understand who's sand box you're playing in and get out of it and get into the God's sandbox. (See upcoming Post on Government as a Religion - you WILL not be happy. - David) A)In Order to form a more perfect union did not mean to form a NEW union as most have supposed. It was a simply an improvement on the old union, thus a MORE PERFECT union. Actually The US constitution formed a new Union. It was a break from the old union of the confederation of States. People should realize that it was the king who was revolting and America, which had been a republic since 1619, was standing their ground against an 'unwarranted usurpation'. The King was trying to exercise an authority in America that he did not have. OH I BEG YOUR PARDON, THE KING OWNED ALL OF AMERICA AND WE HAVE THE CHARTERS TO PROVE IT. VIRGINIA WAS FORMED AS A CORPORATION IN 1603 IN ENGLAND. DELAWARE WAS AND IS OWNED BY THE KING, WHO IS THE STRAWMAN FOR THE VATICAN AND THERE IS A 10 THOUSAND YEAR LEASE ON DELAWARE. (This is extremely interesting and you should pay close attention; they do have the paperwork to prove it! If you are confused by the reverence to the "Strawman," please E-mail me and request the paper on Strawman. - David) The Constitution was literally the revolution. It was not ratified by law but by acquiescence. "If a constitution expressly provides that it may be amended only in a certain way and another way followed, such an attempted amendment is illegal; but if it is acquiesced in it becomes effective as a peaceful revolution such as took place when the United States Constitution took effect upon the ratification by nine states in spite of the fact that the old Articles of Confederation provided that they should not be amended without unanimous consent of the states." Clark's Sum. of American Law, Constitutional Law Chapter 1, §1 p. 462 DESPITE WHAT CLARK STATES, THE CHARTER (CONSTITUTION) WAS CREATED BY TREATY OF 1783 AND FINALIZED BY THE TREATIES OF 1794 AND OF GHANT AND THE 1822 SECRETE TREATY OF VERONA. SO THE CONSTITUTION WAS THE RESULT OF THE TREATIES NOT THE SOURCE. B) We the People was a specific type of People, as in a capitalized pronoun. Pronouns refer to a specific person place or thing, not a general person place or thing. Capitalization often reverses meanings in law. "We the People" is a pronoun or it would have been "we the people" as a general group. (Stop! Right here. What everyone sees as the Constitution today, is not the original document that was written in 1787. If you want a copy of the original Constitution, please E-mail me and request it. Now, this is how the first paragraph actually read when it was written: we, The People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, DO ORDAIN AND ESTABLISH THIS CONSTITUTION for the United States of America. This document was then sent to England for approval, and when it was returned and in subsequent years, well, you can begin your comparisons with this paragraph. You will find that the meanings and intent of many words have been drastically altered by the changing of punctuation and capitalization. - David) Actually the people had little to nothing to do with the Constitution. It was an agreement between the States. Men like Patrick Henry opposed it and specifically opposed the use of the phrase 'We the People'. Madison argued that the document could not be written We the States because the states were mere Republics and had no authority to make such an agreement. The authority of a republic is 'titular' and there fore would carry no weight in the law of nations. The people opposed the Constitution. "Just as the revolutionary Adams opposed the Constitution in Massachusetts, so did Patrick Henry in Virginia, and the contest in that most important State of all was prolonged and bitter. He who in Stamp Act days had proclaimed that there should be no Virginians or New Yorkers, but only Americans, now declaimed as violently against the preamble of the Constitution because it began, 'We the people of the United States' instead of 'We, the State.' Like many, he feared a 'consolidated' government, and the loss of state's rights. Not only Henry but much abler men, such as Mason, Benjamin Harrison, Munroe, R.H. Lee were also opposed and debated...others in what was the most acute discussion carried on anywhere..." "Owing to the way in which the conventions were held, the great opposition manifested everywhere, and the management required to secure the barest majorities for ratification, it seems impossible to avoid the conclusion that the greater part of the people were opposed to the Constitution." "It was not submitted to the people directly, and in those days of generally limited suffrage, even those who voted for delegates to the State conventions were mostly of a propertied class, although the amount of property called for may have been slight." History of the U.S. by James Truslow Adams V.1. pp. 258-259. C) The sixth Article (yep, that capital A in Article makes it a pronoun/name of a specific thing) in the Constitution for the United States of America in 1787 has been carefully ignored. It says in essence, all Royal Crown Charters establishing the 13 Colonies are still in effect, as are all existing treaties and obligations (read DEBTS) made prior to the Constitution of 1787 are still in effect AND EVERY JUDGE IS BOUND TO UPHOLD THEM AS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE STATES THINK. This is true. This is a two edged sword though. Read on. The rebellion in the colonies was an unusual war. It was the first time the supposed winner (America) paid the debts of the supposed looser (the King of England - hereafter the Crown). It was the first time the supposed looser kept all of his Crown lands, rents and cash flow in a country the Crown had supposedly lost to in a war. How many people realize under Article Six, the Lords Proprietors in the Colonies still collected their land rents (read PROPERTY TAXES)? How many people realize the colonists still kept their lands and houses in England? Perhaps even fewer have ever read the treaty of Paris that ended the "American Revolution" still called the King of England as the Prince of the United States? And the 'Arch-Treasurer Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire.' The point I am making is that the Constitution was, is and, unless amended, always will be bound down by "the prior obligations" America had before the "Revolution": debt and being a British Colony. What I am putting forth is that America, by treaty, is a British Colony to this day. Yes, this also means a treaty The Crown entered into hundreds of years ago is still the Supreme Law of the Land via Article Six. Therefore the Magna Carta as a Treaty the Crown was party to is still binding under Article Six and every judge is bound thereby. This is true but as I stated our freedom in this land was established before the United States, before the so-called Revolution. THE MEN AND WOMEN AT THE TIME WERE NOT FREE AT ALL. THEY ALL HAD TO PAY A QUITRENT TAX TO THE CROWN FOR THE USE OF THE POPE'S LAND THAT THE POPE HAD CONTROL OVER SINCE TAKING THE ENTIRE KINGDOM OF THE CROWN IN 1213 WHEN THE KING SOUGHT RECOMMUNICATION. REMEMBER, THE KING IS THE STRAWMAN? Even before the so-called American revolution the united States found that, "Natural law was the first defense of colonial liberty." Also, "There was a secondary line upon which much skirmishing took place and which some Americans regarded as the main field of battle. The colonial charters seemed to offer an impregnable defense against abuses of parliamentary power because they were supposed to be compacts between the king and people of the colonies; which, while confirming royal authority in America, denied by implication the right of Parliament to intervene in colonial affairs. Charters were grants of the king and made no mention of the parliament. They were even thought to hold good against the King, for it was believed that the King derived all the power he enjoyed in the colonies from the compacts he had made with the settlers. Some colonists went so far to claim that they were granted by the 'King of Kings'-and therefore 'no earthly Potentate can take them away.'"1 John Adams said that when the grantees of the "Massachusetts Bay Charter carried it to America they 'got out of the English realm, dominions, state, empire, call it by what name you will, and out of the legal jurisdiction of the Parliament. The king might, by his writ or proclamation, have commanded him to return; but he did not. By this interpretation, the charters accorded Americans' all the rights and privileges of a natural free-born subject of Great Britain and gave colonial assemblies the sole right of imposing taxes."2 "Accordingly, when Americans were told that they had no constitutional basis for their claim of execution from parliamentary authority, they answered, 'Our Charters have done it absolutely.' 'And if one protests,' remarked a Tory, 'the answer is, You are an Enemy to America, and ought to have your brains beat out.'3"4 Almost from the beginning of English settlement, the government permitted the tradition of local liberty to take such firm root in America that Alexander Hamilton could say in 1775 that 'the rights we now claim are coeval with the original settlement of these colonies.'5 Cromwell, during England's brief dance with a republican government, sent troops to America to 'protect the Republic' long before the revolution. Samuel Adams stated, on August 1, 1776, within one month of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, "Our Union is complete; our constitution composed, established, and approved. You are now the guardians of your own liberties. We may justly address you, as the decemviri did the Romans, and say: 'Nothing that we propose can pass into law without your consent. Be yourself, O Americans, the authors of those laws on which your happiness depends.''' The early Americans let the Facts be submitted to a candid world in their Declaration of Independence as they stood against the King of Great Britain. Their complaint was not due to taxation without representation as is popularly taught in public schools. They did speak of an absolute Despotism and that it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. That new Guard became the state militia, but now has been replaced by a federal army and soon a U.N. police force. So what was the history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny. The list is long and numerous and sounds like a description of life in these United States, but it does included taxes imposed without consent. "For imposing taxes on us without our Consent:6" I hope that people will simply read the plain language of Article Six and ask themselves wherein were any of the Original Colonial Charters amended? Wherein did the people the Colonies owned money to for establishing the Colonies way back when cease getting their money (land rents to the Lords proprietor)? If you live in New Jersey of some other original 13, call the Governors office for info on how to get literature on the Lords Proprietor who still collect property taxes. My client did and found out WHY his property taxes were soooo high. Does anyone know what Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain boys did until he was captured and put on a prison ship. He would go into villages where members of the crown were issuing 'legal titles to land. They would usher the people out of their homes and businesses and burn them to the ground. Why? Because these people were settling for legal title which is not title. Didn't they teach you these things in public school? No? Why don't you find out why. http://presys.com/~ekklesia/issu10w.htm#R6 The second item I would like to humbly put forth for conversation is that a more perfect union for We the People was that the Crown would no longer differentiate between religions and that the Crown would not again attempt to enforce Catholicism at sword point. That is the inestimable prize our Godly Founding Fathers won for the Land Holders and the people in general. Thank God they did so because King George was firmly under the control of the Bank of England. The Bank of England was firmly in control of the Rothshields. The Rothshields gained permission of the Pope to conduct banking in the 1740's across national boundaries by a concordant negotiated by Adam Weishauf (sp?), a Jesuit priest. (I think the date is incorrect here, and I forgot to get a correction for it! Sorry, David) Hey! Do you know who has the equitable title to the State of Maryland? Do you know that the land on which Washington D.C. is built was only sessioned from Maryland? Do you know why there is jurisdictional difference when you enter the 'City of Baltimore' in Baltimore? Do you know where the head quarters to the Social Security System is located? Do you know the name of the priest in New York who made a deal with Eleanor. R. and then announced that the Catholic Church was withdrawing its objections to the Social Security Act? I could tell you but then somebody would have to shoot you. Yes folks, the a lowly Greek Jewish loan officer named Amshel Buaer (later to be called Amshel Rothshield)did not get his 5 sons to be more powerful than kings in less than one generation without help. Loaning money across national boundaries was a capital offense UNLESS you had the Pope's permission in the 1700's. He managed the Pope's moneys and loaned them out as his agent. Thus Rothshields' meteoric rise to power. The first place the Pope bought up kings, armies and navies to rule as in the dark ages was in England. Logically so, since England controlled the waters of the world and thus commerce where treasures are gathered up. The Bank of England could depose a king by collapsing the economy and funding the kings enemies who were all to happy to get rid of the King who dared oppose the Banksters. When our Godly founding fathers saw Papal tyranny about to engulf America, they remembered reading Fox's Book of Martyrs: the book they brought with them on the Mayflower and learned to read from. It was the second most common book in early America. It told HOW England fell under Papal control and Bloody Mary killed all the Protestants. The founding Fathers saw laws and policies (the Navigation act, etc. and new taxes to be paid in gold thereby removing honest currency from circulation to kill the economy) designed to destroy their freedoms and undo the religious freedoms Henry the 8th had won for England. The "revolution" was a religious war to preserve the liberties essential to freedom of worship. If it was a war of Independence, the King would have lost his lands and forts. He did not. If it was a war of independence the colonists would have lost their lands in England. They did not. If it was a war of independence, we would have not been bound by the Royal Charters, "...Faith in Christ inspired the missionaries... and.. colonists who subdued the waste places of the new world..." "Now the commercial corporation for colonization,... was in reality a kind of autonomous state. Like the state, it had a constitution, a superior law binding constituent and officers." "The colonies were 'companies.' 'The legal instrument for realization of that design was a charter granted by 'the dominiontive authority of the king' uniting the sponsors of the enterprise in 'one body politic and corporate,' known as the Trustees for establishing the colony..." "Thus every essential element long afterward found in the government of the American state appeared in the chartered corporation that started English civilization in America." Chapt I p10, Chapter II p36, The Rise of the American Civilization by Charles A. Beard & Mary R. Beard. Until the colonial charters were signed, ridding the kingdom of troublesome rebels, there seemed to be no relief from the encroachment of government authority. In those charters the individual colonies were called "a republic." But what kind of republics were they? They were not utopias but refuges of individual responsibility where no law could be made "except by the consent of the freeman." But there is more. The other point is that Americans could own land in fee simple. "The ordinary citizen, living on his farm, owned in fee simple, untroubled by any relics of Feudalism, untaxed save by himself, saying his say to all the world in town meetings, had gained a new self-reliance. Wrestling with his soul and plow on week days, and the innumerable points of the minister's sermon on Sundays and meeting days, he was becoming a tough nut for any imperial system to crack."7 The nut has been cracked, pulverized in fact. This brings us back to the issue of land and its ownership. Citizens of the United States do not own their own land today. They have at best only a legal title which does not include "ownership of an estate" since it carries "no beneficial interest."8 Treaties and prior obligations of the Crown had entered America into as per Article Six. If it was a war of independence it would have been a NEW UNION not a MORE PERFECT UNION (read - REHASH of the old one). If it was a war for Independence form England, we would have ceased paying land rents to the Crown's agents. We have not. I do not care about perceptions people may have about the Constitution. I care about the treaties it is bound by. Charters are key. They are a two edged sword. The house of Tudor is the largest land holder in the United States. They also own more than 50% of the largest food producer in the world. Treaties, Charters and the Constitution give you the opportunity to be free. They do not make you free. The original Separatists, now called pilgrims in your public school books, turned down the first contract they were offered. They refused to sign until they would actually be able to 'own land' after 7 years of labor for the Company. My last point to humbly put forth. We the People means land holders, not every warm body on the Continent. You know you are a land holder if... you do not pay land rents (read PROPERTY TAXES). If We the People meant them, the tenants/renters and folks in general, the Constitution would read "we the people". It does NOT. If We the People meant folks in general, being an elector who casts ballots in an election (NOT A VOTER) would have included everybody in post "revolutionary" war America. It did not. If We the People meant everybody, it would have included Indians and Negroes. It did not. Who does it include? The We the People the Constitution was set up to protect was the land holders! Until you hold land that is not taxed, you are not a party to the Constitution and are foreign or ALIEN to it. Renters do not have Rights (yep, that is a pronoun referring to specific Rights) on the Land Lords Land. You got it. This is the other edge. If they can own land that is free then we can own land that is free. If we will become a Christian People again by exiting the King's Commerce we can hold land that is not taxed as Stewards for the KING OF KINGS, have Rights, be one of We the People, and cease being 14th amendment tenants on the Crowns land. Right ON! Until someone announces their Citizenship in Christ's Kingdom, holds land for their KING (Jesus Christ) and otherwise has no privileges and benefits of the Crown's Commerce, they are presumed to be serfs. Serfs have no Rights. They have what they call rights (read PRIVILEGES) under the 14th amendment that are revocable at will. The only way to truly exit citizenship in Washington DC/14th Amendment citizenship is to become a Citizen in Christ's Kingdom. Hack as people may at the various branches (child custody, traffic tickets, health/FDA issues, licenser of businesses / professions, the monetary system, bills in Washington DC's congress, socialist party A vs party B, SSN's, homes schooling, etc.) the roots remain the same. Hack away at one branch, two grow in it's stead. The root is stronger for the pruning. The root is Citizenship. Citizenship comes by holding land. All Rights come from holding God's land. Are you a citizen in the Federal Church of Social Security which "cares" for it's poor, fatherless and widowed (at gun point if need be)? One big convention of dead churches in Washington DC, under the Pope by treaty, with endless statutes and removal of free agency for all? Remember your constitution. Congress has exclusive legislative jurisdiction over Washington, DC, it's possessions, TERRITORIES and enclaves. When you naturalized yourself as a citizen of Washington DC, there is no rule of law under the Constitution of 1878. God endowed Rights secured by our Godly Founding Fathers come only by accepting God required duties as they did. Those God required duties are in the Bible. The Bible almost nobody really reads from a taxation and political control of land point of view any more. (Which is a shame, as over 60% of the Bible is about government! - David) Please read Genesis 47 from a political control of land point of view. See who taxed who and follow the cash flow. See who remained free and how. Again Legal title in Egypt not ownership of an estate. Then look up in the IRS code 508 (c)(1)(A) and 6033 (a)(2)(A)(i) and (iii). Connect the dots as best you can and then go over it again. If anyone wants to truly study these issues in Genesis/IRS code via e mail, lets continue this line of research and conversation. If not, no problem. At least the offer was made. Next comes the story of Saul, David and Goliath the Philistine in a political control of land and taxation point of view as it relates to the Throne of David who Jesus Christ was political successor to. Then comes the TWO cleansing of the temple Jesus Christ held title to as King, or "thou son of David" as his adopted family members/Citizens called him. To be adopted into the royal family by Baptism as a son or daughter of the King of Israel was political, economic, as well as religious. Who do kings of the earth collect tribute? of children of strangers? Then are the children free. That would be a lecture to the Prime Minister by the King on tax policy. The Kings of Israel were Trustees for God. Understanding Trust concepts are essential to understanding the King / prophet / priest / people of Israel relationship. God's legal title is Lawful title. Once this groundwork is laid, you may have a possibility of understanding the treaties the Constitution is bound by. Until you understand them, you don't really understand the Constitution enough to limit government in your life. I don't fully understand them, but at least I have a starting point. If you are in the Constitutional kingdom Clinton makes the treaties for you. If you are in the kingdom of God on earth, the ekklesia of Jesus, a.k.a. the Church than no one can make treaties for you but Jesus and he won't sell you out. In Gibbon's Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, he praised "the union and discipline of the Christian republic." He also pointed out that "it gradually formed an independent and increasing state in the heart of the Roman Empire." We must return to the Republic taking on that responsibility God has granted us. Rights are Responsibilities. There is every reason to read the Bible as a study of political government as the Founding Fathers did. It brings hope and results, especially today. If there is a problem in life, political / jurisdictional or otherwise, there is an answer in the Holy Scriptures. Anyone willing to take that premise literally? Love Blayne DIDO Gregory at the ekklesia http://presys.com/~ekklesia/welcome.htm Luke 17:21, Eph. 3:17-18 Christian Heirs Fellowship Ministries http://www.absalom.com/chf Foot notes: 1 The Other Side of the Question, by a Citizen, New York, 1774, 16. 2 Principles and Acts of the Revolution, edited by H. Niles, 16. 3 Pennsylvania Journal and Weekly Advertiser, September 4, 1766, Supplement. 4 174-175 Origins of the American Revolution by John C. Miller. 5 The Works of Alexander Hamilton, edited by Henry Cabot Lodge, New York, 1904, I, 172. 9 Ibid., March 31, 1768. 6 The Declaration of Independence 7 History of the U.S. Vol.1 James Truslow Adams, p. 176. 8 Black's Law Dictionary 3rd Ed. p. 1734.("Legal" & "Equitable" titles.) There is one more point which needs to be stressed here, and this regards treaties. This came through from Paul, and he explains it very well: Paul wrote: You know, Al, I've been thinking about that Constitution everyone; including myself {until I started studying the Law} wrapped themselves up in as their Saving grace. Boy was I stupid! Anyway... you know how all programmers BUILD a backdoor into any software program that they write... well... why is it so hard for people to understand that the so called "Framers" i.e. [Programmers] of the Constitution left THEMSELVES an out or in modern terminology; a BACK DOOR around the document that they KNEW the common man would never figure out until many years later? Some men, such as Lysander Spooner{who was also a Lawyer} did figure out the fraud... but the average, joe blow on the street thought this document was the greatest thing since rabbit stew! That back door my dear friends was that "tiny" little sentence contained in paragraph [2] Article IV and very stealthily crafted WITHIN that paragraph as follows: This Constitution, and all the Laws of the United States which shall be made, IN PURSUANCE THEREOF; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made UNDER THE AUTHORITY of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;......." Here my dear friends is THEIR BACK DOOR, just as sure as God made little green apples! Even Larry Becraft admits this fact; because slowly over the past 200 years this EXCEPTION to the Constitution has been used to enslave the American people. This phraseology was so carefully written that I don't see how anyone can doubt the purposefulness of its sequence and terminology. Of course, I was not taught to discover this secret phrase in school; hell no, do you think they would expose this little gimmick to the slaves so that they might cry "foul play"! Heck no....I had to figure it out for myself after reading it about 200 times before it hit me. Maybe I'm stupid for not catching on sooner; but ....at least I caught on; which is more than I can say for about 98% of Americans. Even about half of the 2% that did catch on say... Oh...but wait... that Treaty clause is SUBJECT to the preceding sentence which says that they{Gov't} can't do anything by Treaty that is contrary to the constitution. OH... you wanna bet ?! The beauty; as I said previously is in the sentence construction and how they PURPOSELY EXEMPTED TREATIES from the qualifier...."in pursuance thereof"! Had the framers INTENDED to so constrain the Treaty making power; this is how that paragraph WOULD and SHOULD have read...."This Constitution, the Laws of the United States [and Treaties made or which shall be made by ITS authority pursuant to the Constitution; shall be the supreme Law of the Land....."] Now... what could have been simpler. If written in this manner...there would be no question that the treaty making power MUST fall within the Constitutional guidelines. But... NO... the framers PURPOSELY placed the Treaty phrase AFTER the " in pursuance thereof<Constitution>" provision. Thereby, making the treaty power subject {only} to the WILL of CONGRESS and NOT LIMITED by the SAFEGUARDS of the Constitution. Pretty sneaky little traitors aren't they!? That's why I agree with information from the Informer and others who say they want no part of that Constitution and its "privileged" status. I'll take my God given Rights any day over the Corporate lies and privileges dished out by mindless Bureaucrats who haven't the slightest idea who they are working for in the first place. That's my opinion for now... and as Paul Harvey would say.." Good Day" ! Paul (you may distribute this if you like.) Until you understand, and do the research to prove to yourself, the Truth of all of the above, you will never understand the issues of the BAR, the Constitution, nor the Poli-tics of today. You will continue to fight what you can not fight, for the battle in and for America is a Spiritual Battle, and you are fighting it as a political contest. Therefore, you are in the wrong arena, using the wrong weapons, and the wrong rules. You are attempting to use THEIR rules, in THEIR arena, and this is not only foolish, it is very dangerous. Please, learn what is really going on! - David As more and more people begin to starve to death around the world, because of actions directly related to Washington, DC, perhaps more Americans will begin to understand why judgement will come against them. The United States (not America), is the New World Order, and most of the rest of the world understands this. Please think about this: Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'. I urge you to pass this post on to others, or post it as you see fit to the Internet, unaltered in any way, as others may need to understand what is going on. We all have a moral obligation to help understanding and knowledge spread across America. "But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood." Ezekiel 33:6 (NIV) The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance; this is the lesson that America forgot in the enjoyment of the excess of materialism, and in the orgy of plundering the world with unjust weights and measures. I am now writing a new book titled "The Science of Life, or, Man and his gods, and how to be free of them." This book is intended to correct the errors which exist in other works. I have offered this information for free to other authors, but they will not listen. If you would like information on this book, please ask, and I will forward the Nutshell on "The Science of Life" to you. Please E-mail me and request it at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are interested in this, or in learning more about the how and why of slavery in America, A suggest you join the Egroup listed below. There is now a Web page with my writings on it. You may go to: http://members.theglobe.com/kcwills/default.html This is the original site for my work, as posted by William; CLICK on "So Many Conspiracies." There is a lot of information here, including the referenced file from Part II showing the original Constitution of 1787 before it was sent to England for approval. Another site with my latest copies of The Series is: http://iresist.com/cgoc/coffee/ All of the sites listed above have a lot of good information on them! http://www.eagle-net.org/AremEnt/ This is another site with the first thirteen Parts of the Series on it. I have now established a new E-group. This group is monitored only to the point that I approve of new members to the group. I do have some common sense rules; No language that is offensive No flaming or name calling And if you post information, source it. If you do not follow these rules, I will remove you. "An information sharing group dedicated to the knowledge and understanding of the True history of America and of their status as free men and women, and dedicated to bringing about the changes necessary for personal freedom." Users can send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and automatically subscribe. To unsubscribe, simply email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the moderator of the group: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egroups.com/group/theseries/ This is the archive for the group. This location will change your subscription to a digest format. go to www.egroups.com I suggest list members log in using your email user location that you receive the messages at and your password. You will see the various egroups you are subscribed to, including [theseries]. Under "eGroup", click on "theseries". Then click on "Modify Subscription". Among the information shown on your subscription is the Delivery Mode. You can set your delivery mode to: * individual e-mails * daily summaries * daily full-text digest * read it on the Web only It also appears that I will be working on the Internet newsletter American Taxpayer as a contributing writer. I have agreed that the writing that I do for this Newsletter will be proprietary information, which means I will not release it elsewhere. If you are interested in subscribing to this Newsletter, please contact me. Is information in this post for real? I assure you it is. If you do not understand, I suggest you begin reading the papers that I have prepared for people just like you (no cost; no obligation). There are currently 19 papers in all and they cover health, cancer, nutrition, the Constitution, citizenship, law, case law, nature, and many other subjects. Currently, there are at least 7 doctors, 3 lawyers, 1 judge (that I know of), 4 college/university professors and many others reading the information. They read because they are learning; maybe you should as well. Your first paper will be about United States citizenship, and what case law says about it. Case law from the federal courts, for instance. The second paper is on the Constitution. To understand the world around you it is necessary to understand Scripture, and one piece of information from Scripture is particularly telling; "the LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil." Not some evil; not most evil; ALL evil. Private courts the IRS uses are simply another way to prey on the uninformed; please, do not stay uninformed. Learn what is really going on in America. Learn why the United States government (a corporation [in bankruptcy]) allows abuse of people like the fraudulent IRS. I will be sending other Posts I consider important; please pass them on to those you consider in need of information. Please pass them on unedited. David If you are interested in my series, please E-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and let's get started! Or, visit the web pages listed above and get started! Whatever you do, just get started! And for those of you who have been reading and stopped for some reason, any reason, please continue. Believe me, the real information begins after Part X! There will be a total of 20 parts, and those who are finishing are learning much more, and this learning is changing how they look at the world around them, in some ways, drastically. May YHVH Bless you Greatly, David "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happened." - Sir Winston Churchill When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. Lawyers: 99.9 percent of them give the rest of the profession a bad name. I don't think you can make a lawyer honest by an act of legislation. You've got to work on his conscience. And his lack of conscience is what makes him a lawyer -- Will Rogers (1879-1935) It also can be said better: When do you know a lawyer is lying? When his mouth is open. 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