-Caveat Lector- -----Original Message----- From: yair davidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sunday, 24 October 1999 17:45 Subject: roses THE RED AND WHITE ROSE OF ISRAELITE ENGLAND "The Zohar" is a collection of writings attributed to certain Talmudic sages of the 2nd century c.e. It appeared in Spain in the 1270s and may have been re-edited at that time. Most (but not necessarily all) Orthodox Jews who study it consider "The Zohar" to be inspired. It definitely does contain valuable traditions and insights. The Zohar speaks of a rose of alternate red and white petals which symbolises Israel: >From the beginning of the "Zohar": "`As the rose*g among the thorns, so is my love among the maidens' (Song of Solomon 2;2): What is the rose: - It is the Assemblage of Israel, the Community of Israel. For there is a rose (above) and a rose (below). Just as the rose which is among the thorns has red and white, so does the Assemblage of Israel have justice and mercy. Just as a rose has thirteen petals, so does the Assemblage [Hebrew: "Knesset"] of Israel have thirteen measures of compassion encompassing it on all sides. "...Five strong leaves surround the rose ..." In ENGLAND BETWEEN THE YEARS 1450-1485 there occurred a series of civil-wars, known as "Wars of the Roses" between the rival Houses of York and Lancaster. Each side was represented by a rose, York by a white rose, and Lancaster by a red one. At the end of the struggle a partly-Welsh adventurer named Henry Tudor became king and claimed to unify in his person the two rival sides. He chose as his symbol a rose with both red and white petals (i.e. a large white rose with a smaller red rose overlayed on it) and with five green leaves around it. This rose, unbeknown to Henry, was (says the above-quoted Zohar) the symbol of Israel. Henceforth the red-and-white petalled "Tudor Rose" became the symbol of the English monarchs and therefore of England itself. The Tudor Rose admittedly has only ten petals whereas the "Rose of Israel" described in the Zohar has thirteen but then England being dominated by the tribe of Ephraim represents only ten out of the original thirteen Israelite Tribes*h. The Tudor rose is still counted amongst the official symbols of Britain. A similar "rosette" design was used as a symbol of royalty by the northern ten-tribed Israelites as well as by the Assyrians. What gives the Tudor rose its significance is its choice of color that coincides with that of the rose of Israel according to the Zohar. Henry Tudor was a great man3: He came from a Ruling House legendarily connected with King Arthur and he may have been descended (as some believe) from King David. "He has been called the Solomon of England"4. The history of modern England as an outwardly-looking independently minded great nation begins with him. His reign marks the beginning of that period in which the blessings promised to the seed of Israel would be realised in the British and British-descended peoples! Under the Tudor monarchs, Newfoundland (in Canada) was first settled laying the basis for the "Anglo-Saxon" (i.e. of British-descent) colonisation of North America and of the British Empire. The Tudor monarchs broke away from the Roman Church causing a re-orientation of British thought towards the Bible. Henry-VIII (the son of Henry Tudor) declared England to be an independent country not subject to Rome. When he broke with Rome he appealed to Rabbinical Jewish interpretations of the law. A leading Italian Rabbi (who believed in the need of reconciliation with the Lost Ten Tribes) risked his life and position to doctrinally support Henry. Elizabeth-I (the daughter of Henry-VIII) knew Hebrew. The Tudors defeated the Spaniards who at that time were the Pre-eminent world power. The Spaniards had sent a vast fleet of immense manned boats to invade England but were beaten due to the English Seamens' courage and inspiration and several miraculous changes of the wind and weather. The very elements seemed to fight on the English side. It may be said that Divine Providence became more evident in the Tudor Period. The U.S.A. Congress in 1986 chose the rose as its national flower. In the precints of the HOLY TEMPLE in Jerusalem before its destruction there was a special rose garden situated between the present Western ("Wailing") Wall and the actual Temple (i.e. Holy of Holies, Mishna Middot ch.1). Some sources of Jewish Rabbinical thought say that in order for the Third Temple to be rebuilt the participation of the Lost Ten Tribes is necessary5. The rose garden will have to be re-planted. The 2nd edition of "The Tribes" is now available. 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