-Caveat Lector- New contact information for Prof. Garth Nicholson, and confirmation of possibility of tainted vaccine. (note free blood tests available to military and their families.) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -----Original Message----- From: Prof. Garth Nicolson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 5:50 PM To: Dave Subject: Re: Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors, Mycoplasma Fermentans-1 Yes, we have testified three times to the U. S. Congress that the vaccines may be contaminated. You can read our sworn testimony on our website http://www.immed.org Please note that our address is no longer in Irvine, CA. You can also call our telephone number and use the menu to request materials and publications be Faxed back immediately. Prof. Garth Nicolson The Institute for Molecular Medicine 15162 Triton Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92649 714-903-2900 ---------- >From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Katie Hernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors, Mycoplasma Fermentans >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 8:08 PM > > Sounds a bit like GWS? > Wonder if they're introducing Mycoplasma Fermentans via the shots? > > These folks are researchers who may be interested in hearing from you: > (you may also find some of their info useful) > http://www.immed.org/prod/text_only.html > Drs. Garth & Nancy Nicolson The Institute for Molecular Medicine 15162 Triton Lane Huntington Beach, CA 92649 714-903-2900 (MYCOPLASMA FERMENTANS INCOGNITUS Tests free to > Military and their families) (that would seem to include YOU, KT) > > > The odor is very intriguing from a homoeopathic viewpoint, as is the rotten > taste, the sudden onset.... I'm quite sure that this could be successfully > treated homoeopathically. > > You may want to consider seeing an experienced "classical" homeopath > especially if you have any further symptoms... or if you know of anyone else > "coming down" with this. > Knowing just a slight bit of your past health challenges, then adding any > repercussion of this on top... Even though you've gotten over the bad > symptoms, my personal advice to you, as someone I care about- is "get thee > to a homeopath" when and if possible. > I wish I knew someone in San Antonio, Texas, to refer you to. > > I'm sending this to the homeopathy online list; your observations may > certainly be of value to others... if there's a homeopath in/near San > Antonio who's interested, please reply to me AND to Katie. > > Thanks, and God bless... (please forward to your contact lists, where > appropriate) > > > Dave Hartley > http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/ncf > http://www.ioa.com/~davehart > http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/issues > > coupla links on GWS > http://wealth4freedom.com/GWI.html > http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/sw/sw35/GWS-contagious.html > http://www.gulfwarvets.com/winds.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Katie Hernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:49 PM > To: Dave > Subject: Re: Anthrax vaccinations, Military resistors > > > Hi, Dave, > > Pass this on if you think it will help anyone. > > A note about personal experience with the anthrax vaccine...or something... > > My son went into the Air Force a couple of months ago, and of course he had > to take that damn anthrax vaccine. I was worried sick about it, but of > course they don't give them a choice about it -- if you want to be in, you > gotta take the shot. And my son wanted to be in. > > He told me that within three hours of getting the shot, he started getting > a fever. He quickly developed a BAD but nonproductive cough. This > remained with him through the rest of basic training. The last three days > he was allowed liberty, so I picked him up and we went off base on the day > he had off-base liberty and the other two days we went different places > on-base. The first day, on base, I noticed that his cough seemed to lessen > after he had been away from his dormitory for a while, and wondered if the > cough was from some mold or something growing in the ventilation > system. In several of the buildings, I noticed a characteristic strange > smell (sort of moldy), and the stronger the smell, the worse his cough > became. The second day he had off-base liberty, and I noticed that his > cough went away almost entirely, and I discussed the possibility that he > was reacting to something in the air with him, and he agreed that might be > it. The third day he had to stay on base, and again his cough was better > and worse depending on the smell of wherever we were. We both also noticed > that about half of the recruits were coughing the same way my son was, but > few of the other base personnel were -- if it was a "bug" or something in > the air ducts, why the disproportionality? By this time I started to > feel feverish and to cough, too. I took Echinacea, and tried to get him to > take some, but he was worried it might show up on a drug test. > > He went away to technical school after that, and a week later he called and > said his cough was completely gone. I, however, was slowly getting > sicker. I was starting to smell funny (like what I had smelled on base), I > > was coughing and had a low-grade fever. After about three weeks of > dragging with this stuff (despite the Echinacea, which I cannot take > constantly because it worsens my autoimmune problem), I developed a knot in > my throat right next to my thyroid that appeared literally overnight and > was about the size of a ping-pong ball. Three thoughts came to mind pretty > quickly -- either I had the fastest goiter on earth, an incredibly fast > growing cancer or I had a lymph node in overdrive. I ruled out the first > quickly -- the lump was moveable, not attached to the thyroid. The second > I was skeptical about -- I've never heard of any cancer that could develop > that fast, and there was no sensation of pain or pressure associated with > the lump, which was also very smooth and symmetrically shaped-- cancers are > rarely smooth or symmetrical. At that point I was pretty sure it was a > lymph node swelling, so I decided to wait a couple of weeks to see what it > did. > > Two days after I got the swelling, I started getting a lot of crud in my > throat. Things smelled and tasted "spoiled". I broke out in a rash on my > arms and upper back, and my autoimmune disease kicked into high gear and > the skin on both of my heels peeled off. I looked like death and didn't > feel much better. I ate a bunch of hot peppers, something I've found is > "kill or cure" for me; it either makes me get REALLY sick or it makes me > get better. The first day of hot pepper therapy, I didn't notice anything > other than my throat was a little clearer. The second day I felt worse but > the swelling in my neck started to go down. The third day I felt about the > same, but on the fourth my system started to clean out and I got rid of a > bunch of toxins through every pore, etc. -- and the lump was half its > original size. A week later, it was gone. > > I've never had anything that acted like this stuff did. The timing makes me > think that this was from the anthrax shot and that this stuff has the > potential to be a droplet infection with a long infectious period, and > worse -- one that can get into buildings and lurk in air ducts. My son was > sick for a month with it. I was sick for a month with it, and I was > infected after he had been infected for three weeks and a week before he > got over it. As I understand it, most diseases have an incubation period, > and then are infectious only until the body begins to "win the war" against > it. This thing comes on FAST and has a heck of a long infectious > period. The fact that it got better and worse depending on his exposure > seems to say that it was either reacting to something in the air, or that > he was getting reinfected from the contaminated air systems. Honestly, I > got the sense that I was being infected from the buildings at least as much > as from him, and as anecdotal evidence, I think a friend of mine became > infected from my house. > > He dropped by to pick up a program I had downloaded for him, and commented > on a "musty" smell. This was a day or two after I had done the hot pepper > detox, and at the time I thought he was smelling me because I had noticed > that this stuff had given me an odour that would not wash off for more than > a few minutes. (I hadn't coughed for several days, so I don't think he > could have caught it from me directly.) Two days later he called me up, > sick as a dog, and told me that he had come down sick on the way back from > my place (he lives two hours away), and that his whole body had swelled up > and turned red and that he smelled "like a wet dog (copulating with) a > sneaker" (his words!!!, but that approximates the smell well enough) and > hadn't been able to go to work the next day. BTW, I've been taking > advantage of some nice weather to open and air out the house for the past > week, washed the AC filter with Lysol and left it in the sun for a day, and > have been burning incense and simmering herbs to try to detox the house. > > I am curious if anyone else has noticed this type of illness in those who > have had the anthrax shots, and in their families, friends and others who > have been exposed to them or to their living quarters. > > > Live Well, Love Well, Be Well, > > KT > Katie Hernandez - ICQ 11136094 > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > EVOCO - Transformational Leadership - http://www.evoco.net > TEAM EVOCO - Web Design and Web Hosting - http://www.evoco.net/team_evoco > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! 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