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But then there would be no Multi-Poley World Order!
FWP
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From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition
ofGod.
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>Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
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>> If "Party of Citizens" can get the court to admit that the Bible is the
>> supreme law book in BC, then we win the case, don't you agree? As far as
I
>> can tell, when pro-lifers and pro-abortionists or so-called
"pro-choicers"
>> argue it out by invoking Biblical Law, the pro-lifers win easily.
>> Agree/disagree? What is the best argument anyone can make from the Bible
>> that God favors abortion?
>> FWP.
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> You are Poley.
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>> >>Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of God.
>> >>
>> >>From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>
>> >>Dear Office of the Attorney General:
>> >> I recently sent an email to your office, asking how your
>> >administration defines "God". Could you please acknowledge receipt of
that
>> >email letter and acknowledge that you are working on an answer to the
>> >question?
>> >> The question is far from frivolous. I lead a registered BC political
>> >party called "Party of Citizens". Last night we met from 7:00 to 9:00
p.m.
>> >in Metrotown LIbrary to hear POC candidate Gordon Helmholtz Watson speak
on
>> >the topic "God's Law or the New World Order". Mr. Watson believes that
THE
>> >BIBLE IS THE SUPREME LAW BOOK in British Columbia and he will be arguing
a
>> >pro-life case before Judge Howard on that basis. As you know there is
>> >legislation which can be argued as supporting the pro-life position and
>> >there is legislation which can be argued as supporting the pro-abortion
>> >position. For example, Mr. Watson repeatedly points to two sections of
the
>> >Criminal Code of Canada which clearly proscribe abortion. They are still
>> >valid law and contrary to popular misconception, laws proscribing
abortion
>> >have not been "struck down".
>> >> Judge Howard will therefore be presented with two sides of a ledger
>> >consisting of provincial and federal legislation and she must decide
which
>> >has greater weight. However, there is also the matter of the Bible as a
law
>> >book and its weight in a BC court. Mr. Watson of course will be arguing
>> that
>> >the Bible is clearly pro-life and anti-abortion.
>> >> My question to you has to do with the "God" of the Canadian
>> Constitution
>> >and whether this is the God of the Bible. If it is, Mr. Watson is quite
>> >right in arguing from the Bible in court. Moreover, he is also
requesting a
>> >trial by jury. I have before me the Jury Act and I note a list of
>> >Definitions at the beginning of the act as is typical of legislation.
There
>> >is no definition of "God". Why should there be? Well, I read in the
>> >information sheet which the Sheriff's Office sends out to prospective
>> jurors
>> >that "The right to a trial by jury of one's peers is a cornerstone to
our
>> >democratic society and is one of its oldest institutions." Recently,
when I
>> >was called in for jury duty, I noted that 7 out of the 8 jurors took an
>> oath
>> >on the Bible, "so help me God" and the 8th. took an affirmation. While
the
>> >affirmation is described in Section 32, the Oath on the Bible is not
>> >mentioned anywhere in this act. It is important for legislation to tell
us
>> >what an affirmation is and to give a list of definitions. It is vitally
>> >important to know how this God in "so help me God" is defined. Given
that
>> >most jurors take an oath on the Bible, I would expect expect an answer
>> along
>> >the lines of saying that in BC and Canada, the legal system accepts the
>> >long-standing historical understanding of the God invoked in the Bible.
Is
>> >that correct?
>> >> According to Black's Law Dictionary, common law derives its
authority
>> >"solely from usages and customs of immemorial antiquity or from the
>> >judgements and decrees of the courts, recognizing, affirming and
enforcing
>> >such usages and customs." Mr. Watson therefore believes that the British
>> >Coronation Service is still highly relevant to this matter. Do you
agree?
>> >Last night he presented us with a manuscript titled "The Coronation of
Her
>> >Majesty Queen Elizabeth II", June 2, 1953. The Introduction is written
by
>> >the Archbishop of Canterbury and it says "Then the heads of the two
>> Churches
>> >of England and Scotland present the Holy Bible to the Queen, wherein is
>> 'the
>> >Rule for the whole life and government of Christian Princes.' So the
>> >foundations are laid." The Archbishop is saying that the Holy Bible is
the
>> >SUPREME LAW IN BRITAIN. Would you agree that by common law it is also
the
>> >supreme law in British Columbia?
>> >> We can also approach this matter from the perspective of the
>> >Constitution of Canada. According to the Canada Year Book, the
Constitution
>> >is the foundation of all legislation in Canada and no legislation can
stand
>> >if it is in violation of the Constitution. The Canada Year Book includes
>> the
>> >Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the Constitution and the Preamble to
the
>> >Charter of Rights and Freedoms reads "Whereas Canada is founded upon
>> >principles that recognize the supremacy of God...." Dennis Mills, MP has
>> >sent me some 60 pages of Commons Debates from 1981 dealing with whether
to
>> >include the word "God" in the Charter. Doug Roche, MP says that
"...rights
>> >exist because they are implanted in every human being by God...." (March
>> >16/81). Whether you agree with Mr. Roche or not, it is clear that "God"
is
>> >the very foundation of the Constitution, which is the foundation of
>> >legislation in Canada.
>> >> Don Boudria, MP, wrote on Oct. 22, 1999, in reply to my email that
>> "This
>> >information may be useful in responding to your comment to 'spell out
what
>> >it means by 'God' in the Constitution/Charter of Rights'-which would
appear
>> >from the Canadian experience and that of other countries to be a matter
for
>> >churches and religious communities to consider." I agree that churches
and
>> >religious communities should be vitally interested in defining 'God'.
>> >However, law enforcement authorities should have as much interest in the
>> >matter. If 'God' is just a word; if law enforcement authorities are to
use
>> >this word as loosely as a drunk speaking in a beer parlour, which seems
to
>> >be the present state of affairs, then the system of justice will be
>> >corrupted because the very foundation of law is meaningless. The rest of
>> the
>> >system of law then regresses to a system of order without justice,
>> >administered by shallow word mongers. I think the place to start
arresting
>> >this corruption is with a clear definition of 'God' in law.
>> >>I look forward to your reply.
>> >>Sincerely-FWP
>> >>(President, Party of Citizens).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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