-Caveat Lector-

Dear Franklin,

Actually I wrote that all human LAWS are illegal. But I guess it was just
that you made a typing error. Or did you misread and misinterpret what I
said?

I suggest you read what I said slowly and fully, please and then see if you
don't agree with what I'm doing.

You should, from your comments about the pope and the other so-called
christian religions, enjoy my website, especially:-
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/darth.htm

Please spread it around to everyone you know and get them writing to the
Irish Minister for Heritage to persuade her to give me the "permit to dig"
at Tara to recover The Ark of The Covenant, ASAP.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



----- Original Message -----
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition
of God.


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> "According to God ALL humans are illegal" you write below. OK, I grant you
> that compared to Someone who has created the universe with its billions of
> stars x billions of galaxies (just for starters) we are more lowly than
> monkeys in a zoo who sense that there is a human keeper beyond the bars.
> Still, we read in Ottawa's Commons Debates from 1981, Doug Roche, MP's
> reference to a "Godless society" so by contrast we would expect there to
be
> a "Godly society". Even a primate like me can figure that out. Is there
more
> to all this than a lot of bananas we ask cogently?
>    Professor Mellert who got the October cover story of The Futurist
> (http://www.wfs.org/futurist.htm) suggests that the future of religion is
> that of a highly relativistic God. Well, I guess it depends on your
beliefs.
> And it depends on the TRUTH....the ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
>    In any case, I have been saying via Life Gazette, as tabloid in the
80's
> and online now, that this is the electric cool-aid acid test for "Religion
> Experts". And I believe it proves that at least Western churchianity from
> Protestant to Roman Catholic is a giant FRAUD. Vatican is an INSTITUTION
OF
> LIARS. It would be easy to prove me wrong.
> Look, this is easy to understand:
>
> FOR A PROFESSED RELIGION EXPERT FROM SALVATION ARMY TO ROMAN CATHOLIC TO
NOT
> KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A "GODLY SOCIETY" AND AN "UNGODLY SOCIETY" IS
> LIKE A DENTIST NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HEALTHY TOOTH AND AN
> UNHEALTHY TOOTH.
>
> In 1891, Vatican made a call for a socio-economic-political "reformation"
> and that document, titled RERUM NOVARUM has been "updated" with the
vanities
> of popocrats ever since. Yet no articulation of a "Godly society" has been
> made. THIS IS PROOF OF A CENTURY OF FRAUD.
>
> Now Vatican is about to send its Numero Uno Liar, the pope, to India and
> Iraq. The motto of the Times of India is "Let Truth Prevail". And Jesus
> Christ said, "I came to tell the truth". So let us hear from Numero Uno
how
> his billion subjects on the planet with all their expertise would spell
out
> "Babylon II". Just across the sand, Kuwait is planning Subia, a brand new
> city for 260,000. Why not combine something old and something new? Build a
> brand new city, Babylon II, around the Babylon Restoration Project.
> This would be a GODLY SOCIETY. The Russians might even like it as a
shining
> light unto the nations, a multi-national city centre for their
"Multi-Poley"
> World Model as an antidote to the depraved US-led New World Order.
> FWP.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JAH Publications <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition
> of God.
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >According to God ALL human laws are illegal.
> >
> >Therefore The Bible is the ONLY Law Book on Earth.
> >
> >Deuteronomy 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the Statutes and
unto
> > the Judgments, which I teach you, for to DO [them], that ye may
> > LIVE, and go in and possess the land which the "I AM" God of your
> > fathers giveth you.
> >4:2 Ye shall not ADD unto the word which I command you, neither
> > shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the
> > Commandments of the "I AM" your God which I COMMAND you.
> >
> >During the British Coronation the Archbishop places The Bible in the
hands
> >of the British monarch saying: "Our gracious king/queen, we present you
> with
> >this Book, the most valuable thing that this world affords. Here is
Wisdom.
> >This is the Royal Law. These are the lively oracles of God."
> >
> >The monarch swears to uphold The Law (PLEASE read Deuteronomy 17:14-20).
> >
> >Canadians are all Israelites by birth, being descended from the Ten
"Lost"
> >Tribes of Israel and all Israelites signed The Covenant with God at Horeb
> in
> >Sinai and must now return to keeping only God's Laws in order to defeat
the
> >NWO or perish.
> >
> >Please see Malachi 4 below for proof.
> >
> >With that in mind please read and act on the following to help me to
> recover
> >The "Lost" Ark of The Covenant from its secret hiding-place on the Hill
of
> >Tara (Torah) in County Meath in Ireland.
> >
> >COPY
> >
> >Dear General Gene,
> >
> >Thank you very much for your latest email. I am extremely glad to hear
> that,
> >unlike most so-called christians, you have actually understood correctly
> >about the Wisdom of The Law. You are perfectly correct about the
abolition
> >of only the animal substitution Sacrificial Laws, which were only a
> >school-teacher to bring men to Christ and were replaced by the daily
taking
> >up of the cross of "Self"-sacrifice. The national and moral Laws however,
> as
> >you correctly state are, like The Covenant, eternal.
> >
> >In order to prove that to everyone and return the world to decency and
> >morality it is necessary to return to The Law of God, exactly as He says
on
> >the last page of the Old Covenant / Testament in Malachi 4, exactly as
you
> >have agreed with in your letter to me. As part of that, it is my personal
> >job to recover The Ark of The Covenant which contains The Law and The Two
> >Tablets on which are written The Ten Commandments and show them to the
> world
> >and warn everyone that they must return to and keep God's Laws in order
to
> >defeat Satan's NWO Conspirators and save themselves from destruction.
> >
> >You are exactly right about the times we are living in being the "End"
Time
> >and the proof of that can be found on my website page about exactly
that:-
> >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/signs.htm
> >
> >The best Bible currently in print is the 1611 king James Authorised
> Version.
> >But I have finished preparing the "King of kings' Bible" and that is the
> >best and only totally accurate Bible and includes what the Conspirators
> took
> >out of it because they didn't want you to read it. Unfortunately because
> the
> >NWO own all the publishing companies and don't want people to be able to
> >read and understand what The Bible really says, they will not publish it
> for
> >me. It is however available electronically and details can be found on my
> >website. I'm looking into putting it on CD but don't have a CD Writer for
> my
> >old Macintosh.
> >
> >I am doing my best to persuade the Irish Minister for Heritage to give me
a
> >permit to dig at Tara in Co. Meath in Ireland, so I can recover The Ark.
> >Then I/we can defeat the NWO and draw all those who want to live in a
> better
> >and fairer world by keeping ONLY God's Laws to The Ark and into God's
> >Kingdom.
> >
> >Gene, please do your best to persuade as many people as possible to
write;
> >to fax to and/or telephone the Irish Minister to persuade her to give me
> the
> >permit as soon as possible, because Y2K is rapidly approaching and there
is
> >no other way to stop the Conspirators.
> >
> >I asked USCMike1 to also persuade his mailing list to do the same because
> >only a concerted and sustained effort will achieve the goal. This is the
> >right miracle that you have been praying for and we all must work
together
> >to make it happen. Please share this with your listeners along with my
> >website address where people can find a treasure of information that will
> >help them and you to correctly understand The Bible and God's
> Survival-Plan.
> >
> >I'm very pleased for you that Father nailed you and you caught on fire.
> >
> >I'm adding the letter* that I sent out to USCMike1 and Shonda in which it
> >gives people the Irish Minister's address etc. and what to do, so I/we
can
> >recover The Ark and defeat the NWO Conspirators ASAP, before Y2K.
> >
> >If you like The Bible you will love my and God's website and spend many
> >joyful hours studying the treasure on it. It will help you to understand
> The
> >Bible better. Please check it out and advise others to do the same.
> >
> >If you have any personal questions that you would like my advice on in
> total
> >confidence and privacy, please feel free to consult me.
> >
> >Peace be upon you,
> >
> >JAH.
> >
> >P.S. This confession of your faith (below) and my reply should also go to
> >the alliance to encourage those who feel the same to have the courage to
> >come forward and say so and help us. I will leave that to you to send it
if
> >you feel you would like to share it with everyone.
> >
> >
> >* Please repost to your own mailing lists
> >and newsgroups and as far and wide as possible - Thanks
> >
> >FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AMERICA HAS BEEN HANGING BY A THREAD......
What
> >do we do next?
> > by Randy Miller
> >
> >The War of all wars (APFN).
> >
> >Dear All,
> >
> >I've already told you what we need to do in order to put everything right
> in
> >one go. Nothing else will get the job done; according to God.
> >
> >We need, according to Holy Scripture, to recover The "Lost" Ark from its
> >secret hiding-place in the Hill of Tara, in County Meath, Ireland and for
> >that we need to persuade Sile (Sheila) de Valera, the Minister for
> Heritage,
> >to give me a "permit to dig" at Tara and we need to do it before y2k, for
> >obvious and already well discussed reasons.
> >
> >Those people who are REALLY serious about survival should help me to
> recover
> >The Ark before it's too late. With that in mind please read the following
> >and act on it. Y2K is getting closer every day.
> >
> >
> >Dear Friends, Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:
> >
> >The more I read your various correspondences, the more I see how
frightened
> >and desperate many of you are, including someone in the NWO above Bill
> >Clinton, and from the many reports sent in, about various government
> >activities that are going on, the greater the need for good guidance on
how
> >to defeat the 300 Gang and even more importantly SURVIVE.
> >
> >With all the measures being taken by so many people; most of which, I'm
> >sorry to have to tell you, will probably not be of any use; it appears
that
> >whilst many of you believe IN God, very few seem to BELIEVE God and His
> >Word.
> >
> >He has told the world on the last page of the Old Covenant/Testament in
> >Malachi 4 what every one of you MUST do, if you want to survive not only
> y2k
> >but also The Fire, which was re-confirmed by Christ in the Revelation to
> >John, in Revelation/Apocalypse 14:3 and 15:3.
> >
> >Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a "New Song" (Isaiah 42:10)
before
> > the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could
> >learn that "Song" EXCEPT the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand,
which
> >were redeemed from the Earth.
> >15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the
> servant
> >of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and
> >marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and TRUE [are] Thy
> Ways,
> >Thou King of the holy people.
> >
> >In both places, you have been told that you MUST get rid of Presidential
> >Decrees and all man-made laws and return to keeping ONLY God's Laws and
The
> >Covenants - the Old and the New Covenants which are harmonised and
referred
> >to as the "New Song" by Christ in Revelation 14:3 and 15:3 above and by
God
> >in Isaiah 42:10, as George Washington intended.
> >
> >Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and]
> >His praise from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and
all
> >that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.
> >42:11 Let the "wilderness" and the cities thereof lift up [their voice],
> the
> >villages [that] Darkness doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the Rock
> sing,
> >let them shout from the top of the mountain.
> >42:12 Let them give glory unto the "I AM", and declare His praise in the
> >islands.
> >42:13 The "I AM" shall go forth as a mighty man, He shall stir up
jealousy
> >like a man of WAR: He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall PREVAIL against His
> >enemies.
> >
> >
> >I have placed the "New Song" that every one of you who wants to survive
and
> >live in God's Kingdom MUST learn and live by, according to Christ, on my
> >website:-
> >
> >http://www/geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/nsongad.htm please retrieve;
> >download and use it, now.
> >
> >
> >It seems you are all far more pre-occupied with the 300 Committee, than
in
> >following God's survival instructions. Those who KNOW God should not be
the
> >least bit worried about anything or what anyone might, or might not, try
to
> >do to their body.
> >
> >Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven;
and
> >all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the
day
> >that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it
> >shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
> >4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise
> with
> >healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the
> >stall (IN PERFECT SAFETY).
> >4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the
> >soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM"
Lord
> >of hosts.
> >4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I
> commanded
> >unto him in Horeb (Sinai) for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and
> Judgments.
> >4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the
> >great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
> >4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the
> >heart of the children to their fathers, (by recovering The "lost" Ark and
> >getting everyone to return to God's Laws kept inside it) lest I come and
> >smite the earth with a curse (verse 1).
> >
> >See THE Survival Plan: "The Way home or face The Fire", on my website
at:-
> >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
> >
> >
> >"Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness and then all
things
> >will be added unto you", including His personal PROTECTION and supply of
> >everything you will need.
> >
> >There is only ONE way to defeat the 300 Gang QUICKLY and that is by doing
> >what God has told you in Malachi 4 and getting the whole world to listen
> and
> >encourage them to do the same, thereby automatically dissolving all human
> >laws and thus taking away their power from the UN / NWO / 300 Gang.
> >
> >It appears from your desperation and the current government measures that
> >appear to be being taken, that there is a RACE on between the 300 Gang,
to
> >take TOTAL control, and me to accomplish my mission for God of destroying
> >their power BEFORE Jan 1 2000. Not until I received your many anxious and
> >well-informed messages did I begin to realise that it is a RACE against
> >TIME.
> >
> >The only way that we can get the WHOLE world's attention and the 300 Gang
> >can be stopped instantly, is by using the power of The Ark of The
Covenant,
> >which has been "lost" and buried for 2,500 years at Tara (Torah) in
> Ireland.
> >It is buried at a National Heritage "protected-site" and I need a "permit
> to
> >dig" from the Irish Minister for Heritage, who is called Sile (Sheila) de
> >Valera and is a descendant of Eamon de Valera who was an Irish American
who
> >left America at the beginning of this century; came to Ireland to
organise
> >the fight against, and defeat of, the British monarchy (head of the 300
> Gang
> >according to Dr. John Coleman) and set up the Irish Republic and became
its
> >first president. Let's finish the job on the 300 Gang.
> >
> >I have been waiting 18 months, doing my best to persuade the minister to
> >give me a "permit to dig" and now feel that, as it has become a RACE; if
we
> >are going to WIN the race, I need ALL of you in the Rebel Alliance to
> write;
> >fax and if you have relatives in Ireland get them to telephone her, to
> >persuade her to give me the permit, so I/we can recover The Ark and
destroy
> >the power of the 300 Gang, BEFORE Jan 1 2000.
> >
> >Many of you will have relatives and or friends in Ireland, who could also
> >write; fax and phone the minister to support me in my application for a
> >permit, their Ref. no. for my application is:- Rep: 525/98.  It would be
> >easier still if anyone with a doctorate in archaeology would help me to
> >apply, because of the draconian Irish regulations against
> non-archaeologists
> >digging in Ireland.
> >
> >Out of the 33,730+ on USCMike1's list of you, someone must have a
doctorate
> >in archaeology or between you be able to stump-up enough money for me to
> >hire one here in Ireland. Want to set up a fighting-fund, anyone?
> >
> >There is NO other way to stop them and survive, than The Way I have told
> >you. If you don't help me and do this God's Way, you will not survive,
you
> >have God's Word on that. Read Malachi 4 above, again, to make sure.
> >
> >The Minister for Heritage's address is:-
> >
> >Sile de Valera,
> >Minister for Heritage,
> >43-49, Mespil Road,
> >Dublin 4,
> >Ireland.
> >Tel. Int. 353 1 667 0788
> >Fax. Int. 353 1 667 0825
> >in Ireland tel. 01 667 0788
> >               fax. 01 667 0825
> >
> >Only a SUSTAINED campaign will persuade her. There are tens of thousands
of
> >you, plus your friends and relatives in Ireland, who could go to the
> >ministry and demonstrate outside, if necessary. If she gets thousands of
> >letters and faxes, EVERY day, and telephone calls, for as long as it
takes
> >to persuade her, she should give me the permit sooner, rather than later.
> >Remember that Jan 1 2000 is rapidly approaching.
> >
> >If you are willing to spend lots of money on ammunition and special
> survival
> >equipment and rations that will realistically probably not help you
anyway,
> >then surely a fax or letter every day or week, costing a couple of bucks,
> >shouldn't be a lot for you to do, from the comfort of your own home, to
get
> >the job done, without firing a shot, or having to run and hide.
> >
> >Anyone who thinks this is off-the-wall, obviously only believes IN God
and
> >doesn't BELIEVE God, or His Holy Bible and miracles and therefore doesn't
> >deserve to survive anyway. If you think anything except THIS miracle can
> >save you from the NWO then YOU are off-the-wall. Those of you that do
> >BELIEVE God, please get writing and faxing, NOW.
> >
> >Long live the fighters,
> >
> >Peace be upon you,
> >
> >JAH.
> >
> >P.S. Further proof that The Ark is at Tara can be found on my website
at:-
> >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: APFN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: APFN ONELIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ChristianPatriot
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: WEBMASTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:41 AM
> >Subject: [apfn] Hanging by a thread (but not for long)
> >
> >
> >> Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> Subject: Hanging by a thread (but not for long)
> >>
> >> FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AMERICA HAS BEEN HANGING BY A
> >> THREAD...... What do we do next?
> >> by Randy Miller
> >>
> >> In one of my last posts, I stated that I was going to disband
> >> my list and forget the issues.  I still plan to but not quite yet.
> >> It seems that something mysterious is going on.  Perhaps a
> >> division in the new world order plans of sorts.  What am I
> >> referring to?  THAAD.
> >>
> >> THAAD has become THE issue behind the scenes in the NWO.  How
> >> do I know this?  Because it is causing quite a stir with
> >> Russia and China, that is how I know it.  Many of you might have
> >> seen the sight about 4 weeks in the night sky of a THAAD missile
> >> hunting down and killing an ABM over the Pacific.  It was
> >> a clear sight in Arizona.  A lot of people were bewildered by
> >> the sight.  Few had seen it before.  It was NOT normal.
> >>
> >> Just a few months ago the NWO, Russia and China were the best
> >> of buds.  The plans were all set, who would take over what.  Now
> >> apparently it is not all so clear.  The NWO poster boy is clearly
> >> worried.  Bill Clinton now backs THAAD a direct turn around
> >> from everything the liberal Democrats stand for.  SOMEBODY above
> >> Bill Clinton IS CLEARLY SCARED!
> >> <<<<<<<<Bernard Rapoport, Waco, Texas>>>>>>>>
> >
> >P.S. Can anyone tell me (JAH) what THAAD stands for and the A part of ABM
> >(Atomic?)?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: GENE RITTER
> >To: JAH Publications
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 10:58 PM
> >Subject: Re: Justice
> >
> >
> >I reckon it can go to the Alliance.  Last December I caught on fire, so
to
> >speak.  Years of lingering questions and input from friends not
> >withstanding, right after Christmas the Lord nailed me.  I went out and
> >purchased several different Bibles (for myself and 2 teen daughters),
> >Concordances for all and jumped headlong into serious Bible Study.  I am
> now
> >hopelessly addicted.  I must be honest and admit that on more than one
> >occasion I have wept at the things I read.  Our country has fallen so far
> >from Grace that I find the Lord's patience to be a thing of awe.  And all
> >these "New Testament "Churches"" claiming that the Law has been done away
> >with and other such hooey.  I am no scholar yet by any means, but it
> appears
> >to me the only thing done away with is the Sacrificial Laws of Moses.  I
> >have yet to find any reference to the rest of the Law being done away
with.
> >And then there is the question of the Sabbath.  Boy, have we been sold a
> >bill of goods or what ??  If we were to punish according to God's Law,
even
> >just 10% of it, we would have the society I grew up in as a child.
> Instead,
> >we have this cess-pool full of lazy, worthless scum bags with their hands
> >out.  Folks running around with no idea of moral decency.  Now make no
> >mistake, I am as lecherous as the next guy, but for the love of God would
> >the women please start wearing clothes!!!!!  Provocative dress should be
> >reserved for the bedroom, not the grocery store or the mall.  I tell you
> >what, if these aren't the end days the Lord is missing a heck of a good
> >chance.  It is very frustrating trying to raise 2 daughters (14 & 15) by
> >myself in a world gone goofy.  Thank God they got "captured" by the youth
> >group at church.  That has helped.  I know the Lord has a plan and it is
> >right on schedule, but it is still so sad to see what we have become as
> >opposed to what we might have been (and still could be with the right
> >miracle).  I have an FM Micro-Station at the house and thankfully some of
> my
> >listeners requested I read the Bible for a segment during my live show.
I
> >was glad of that because at this stage of my development I still can't
get
> >enough.  Currently I use several Bibles: 1958 Douay-Westminster; 1611
KJV;
> >New KJV Study Bible; NIV Study Bible.  My quest continues...
> >
> >                                                        Yours in Christ,
> >
> >                                                        General Gene
> >(Republic of Texas)
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 7:37 PM
> >Subject: [CTRL] Fw: [2ndrepoftexas] Fw: [LIFE-GAZETTE] BC's Definition of
> >God.
> >
> >
> >> -Caveat Lector-
> >>
> >> If "Party of Citizens" can get the court to admit that the Bible is the
> >> supreme law book in BC, then we win the case, don't you agree? As far
as
> I
> >> can tell, when pro-lifers and pro-abortionists or so-called
> "pro-choicers"
> >> argue it out by invoking Biblical Law, the pro-lifers win easily.
> >> Agree/disagree? What is the best argument anyone can make from the
Bible
> >> that God favors abortion?
> >> FWP.
> >> >.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>
> >> >>Dear Office of the Attorney General:
> >> >>      I recently sent an email to your office, asking how your
> >> >administration defines "God". Could you please acknowledge receipt of
> >that
> >> >email letter and acknowledge that you are working on an answer to the
> >> >question?
> >> >>   The question is far from frivolous. I lead a registered BC
political
> >> >party called "Party of Citizens". Last night we met from 7:00 to 9:00
> >p.m.
> >> >in Metrotown LIbrary to hear POC candidate Gordon Helmholtz Watson
speak
> >on
> >> >the topic "God's Law or the New World Order". Mr. Watson believes that
> >THE
> >> >BIBLE IS THE SUPREME LAW BOOK in British Columbia and he will be
arguing
> >a
> >> >pro-life case before Judge Howard on that basis. As you know there is
> >> >legislation which can be argued as supporting the pro-life position
and
> >> >there is legislation which can be argued as supporting the
pro-abortion
> >> >position. For example, Mr. Watson repeatedly points to two sections of
> >the
> >> >Criminal Code of Canada which clearly proscribe abortion. They are
still
> >> >valid law and contrary to popular misconception, laws proscribing
> >abortion
> >> >have not been "struck down".
> >> >>   Judge Howard will therefore be presented with two sides of a
ledger
> >> >consisting of provincial and federal legislation and she must decide
> >which
> >> >has greater weight. However, there is also the matter of the Bible as
a
> >law
> >> >book and its weight in a BC court. Mr. Watson of course will be
arguing
> >> that
> >> >the Bible is clearly pro-life and anti-abortion.
> >> >>   My question to you has to do with the "God" of the Canadian
> >> Constitution
> >> >and whether this is the God of the Bible. If it is, Mr. Watson is
quite
> >> >right in arguing from the Bible in court. Moreover, he is also
> requesting
> >a
> >> >trial by jury. I have before me the Jury Act and I note a list of
> >> >Definitions at the beginning of the act as is typical of legislation.
> >There
> >> >is no definition of "God". Why should there be? Well, I read in the
> >> >information sheet which the Sheriff's Office sends out to prospective
> >> jurors
> >> >that "The right to a trial by jury of one's peers is a cornerstone to
> our
> >> >democratic society and is one of its oldest institutions." Recently,
> when
> >I
> >> >was called in for jury duty, I noted that 7 out of the 8 jurors took
an
> >> oath
> >> >on the Bible, "so help me God" and the 8th. took an affirmation. While
> >the
> >> >affirmation is described in Section 32, the Oath on the Bible is not
> >> >mentioned anywhere in this act. It is important for legislation to
tell
> >us
> >> >what an affirmation is and to give a list of definitions. It is
vitally
> >> >important to know how this God in "so help me God" is defined. Given
> that
> >> >most jurors take an oath on the Bible, I would expect expect an answer
> >> along
> >> >the lines of saying that in BC and Canada, the legal system accepts
the
> >> >long-standing historical understanding of the God invoked in the
Bible.
> >Is
> >> >that correct?
> >> >>   According to Black's Law Dictionary, common law derives its
> authority
> >> >"solely from usages and customs of immemorial antiquity or from the
> >> >judgements and decrees of the courts, recognizing, affirming and
> >enforcing
> >> >such usages and customs." Mr. Watson therefore believes that the
British
> >> >Coronation Service is still highly relevant to this matter. Do you
> agree?
> >> >Last night he presented us with a manuscript titled "The Coronation of
> >Her
> >> >Majesty Queen Elizabeth II", June 2, 1953. The Introduction is written
> by
> >> >the Archbishop of Canterbury and it says "Then the heads of the two
> >> Churches
> >> >of England and Scotland present the Holy Bible to the Queen, wherein
is
> >> 'the
> >> >Rule for the whole life and government of Christian Princes.' So the
> >> >foundations are laid." The Archbishop is saying that the Holy Bible is
> >the
> >> >SUPREME LAW IN BRITAIN. Would you agree that by common law it is also
> the
> >> >supreme law in British Columbia?
> >> >>   We can also approach this matter from the perspective of the
> >> >Constitution of Canada. According to the Canada Year Book, the
> >Constitution
> >> >is the foundation of all legislation in Canada and no legislation can
> >stand
> >> >if it is in violation of the Constitution. The Canada Year Book
includes
> >> the
> >> >Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the Constitution and the Preamble to
> >the
> >> >Charter of Rights and Freedoms reads "Whereas Canada is founded upon
> >> >principles that recognize the supremacy of God...." Dennis Mills, MP
has
> >> >sent me some 60 pages of Commons Debates from 1981 dealing with
whether
> >to
> >> >include the word "God" in the Charter.  Doug Roche, MP says that
> >"...rights
> >> >exist because they are implanted in every human being by God...."
(March
> >> >16/81). Whether you agree with Mr. Roche or not, it is clear that
"God"
> >is
> >> >the very foundation of the Constitution, which is the foundation of
> >> >legislation in Canada.
> >> >>   Don Boudria, MP, wrote on Oct. 22, 1999, in reply to my email that
> >> "This
> >> >information may be useful in responding to your comment to 'spell out
> >what
> >> >it means by 'God' in the Constitution/Charter of Rights'-which would
> >appear
> >> >from the Canadian experience and that of other countries to be a
matter
> >for
> >> >churches and religious communities to consider." I agree that churches
> >and
> >> >religious communities should be vitally interested in defining 'God'.
> >> >However, law enforcement authorities should have as much interest in
the
> >> >matter. If 'God' is just a word; if law enforcement authorities are to
> >use
> >> >this word as loosely as a drunk speaking in a beer parlour, which
seems
> >to
> >> >be the present state of affairs, then the system of justice will be
> >> >corrupted because the very foundation of law is meaningless. The rest
of
> >> the
> >> >system of law then regresses to a system of order without justice,
> >> >administered by shallow word mongers. I think the place to start
> >arresting
> >> >this corruption is with a clear definition of 'God' in law.
> >> >>I look forward to your reply.
> >> >>Sincerely-FWP
> >> >>(President, Party of Citizens).
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>[Attachments have been removed from this message]
> >> >>
> >> >>>* Life Gazette chronicles the development of world cultures which
have
> >> >Constitutions recognizing the supremacy of God, from Liberian to
Iranian
> >to
> >> >"Culture X" *
> >
> >
> >
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