-Caveat Lector-

Hey-the Chinese don't call the US a "rogue state" for nothing!
FWP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:00 AM
Subject: [CTRL] No genocide in Kosovo


> -Caveat Lector-
>
>Date sent:              Wed, 03 Nov 1999 13:41:49 +0000
>From:                   Marjaleena Repo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject:                NO GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO: Richard Gwyn
>To:                     ALL LISTS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> [note: Throughtout the War, the Toronto Star(supposedly left wing!)
> demonized the
> Serbs in any which way they could think of, while repeatedly
>lauding NATO as the pillars of humanity. I had sent numerous
>letters to the  Star complaining of the fallacious portrayal of the
>Serbs, while mentioning the econonic catastrophy unleashed on
>behalf of the yours truly. Yet they continued on a slanted,
>unobjective, and partisan path. This was by no means impartial
>reporting!!!... When finally, I received a   e-mail  from the
>ombudsman explaining that he "can't understand why NATO would
>drop D.U weapons on Yugoslavia, if this would put  Peace keepers
>in harms way". He went on say that"I must first prove that NATO
>had actually used this weaponry"--and that I did... I finally received
>a call explaining that they were "comtemplating" whether or not to
>print my letter. Unfortunately, or shall I say not surprinsingly, they
>did not do so, considering this would only discredit  all  previous
>"reports" on this issue...
>Now finally,  the BIG LIE is exposed.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>W IT CAN BE TOLD - that the "genocide" and "holocaust" charges against
>the Yugoslavian government and the Serbs were deliberate
>falsifications.  This is the first (published) Canadian journalist, I
>believe, who has actually put together the findings from various
>independent sources which have travelled on the Internet for a couple of
>months. Let us see if it affects any of the coverage in the Toronto Star
>which was relentless in its viciousness toward the Serbs and didn't
>hesitate to repeat every outlandish story that it came across, in order
>to foster hatred against the Serbs! Let us see if other columnists will
>follow with a "mea culpa." Gwyn, of course, does not do a real
>self-criticism of himself,  his newspaper and the overall Canadian and
>international media, and throws in the usual gratuitous comments about
>Milosevic and the"stupidity of Serbs", but nevertheless this is a
>significant first step.
>
>The column comes from a debate that took place on an  TV Ontario
>programme, "Diplomatic immunity" on Oct.  29, between three journalists:
>Patrick Martin of the Globe and Mail, Richard Gwyn and Eric Margolies
>(perhaps the most vicious of the falsifiers), and Major-General (Ret'd)
>Lewis MacKenzie, with Gwyn, Martin and MacKenzie raising the issues of
>falsification (Patrick Martin even brought out the role of the PR firms
>in this war, reminding the viewers of the Hill and Knowlton created
>"incubator babies" incident in the Gulf War in 1990!). (If anyone has
>the transcript of this watershed programme in the Canadian media, please
>send it to me so I can spread it around the world.)
>
>This article needs to be circulated widely. If you can get your copy of
>the Toronto Star of November 3, you will have a ready made leaflet to
>give out to friends, relatives, fellow workers and neighbours, who have
>been at the receiving end of the false propaganda tales. They will find
>this an eye-opener.
>
>On the web you can locate the article  at Toronto Star's site:
>http://www.thestar.com   among the "Opinion" pieces
>
>This is an EXCELLENT time to respond to the Gwyn article, by forwarding
>it to your MP with your personal comment and request for a public
>inquiry into Canada's involvement in an illegal and immoral war. Also,
>do write letters to the Toronto Star.  It is bound to publish some of
>them. (Do send us a copy so that we can send out a whole stream of them,
>whether they are published or not.) The e-mail address is at the end of
>the article.
>
>Marjaleena Repo
>-------
>Toronto Star  November 3, 1999
>
>NO GENOCIDE, NO JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR ON KOSOVO
>
>Richard Gwyn
>
>IN THE GENOCIDE of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo by the forces of Serb
>leader Slobodan Milosevic, the worst incident occurred at the Trepca
>mine.
>
>As reported by American and NATO officials, large numbers of bodies were
>brought in by trucks under the cover of darkness. The bodies were then
>thrown down the shafts, or were disposed of entirely in the mine's vats
>of hydrochloric acid. Estimates of the number of dead began at 1,000.
>
>That was six months ago, in the middle of the war undertaken to halt
>what both U.S. President Bill Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony
>Blair called ``a human catastrophe.'' Estimates of the number of ethnic
>Albanians slaughtered went upward from 10,000. U.S. Defence Secretary
>William Cohen put the count at 100,000.
>
>Three weeks ago, the International Criminal Tribunal for the former
>Yugoslavia released the findings of Western forensic teams investigating
>the horror at Trepca. There were not 1,000 bodies down the mine shafts
>at Trepca, reported the tribunal. There were not 100 bodies there. There
>was not one body there, nor was there any evidence the vats had ever
>been used to dispose of human remains.
>
>Shortly afterward, the tribunal reported on its work at the most
>infamous of all the mass graves of ethnic Albanians, at Ljubenic near
>the town of Pec. Earlier, NATO officials had said 350 victims had been
>hastily buried there by the retreating Serb forces. There were not 350
>bodies at Ljubenic, though. There were five.
>
>So far, not one mass grave has been found in Kosovo, despite four
>months' work by forensic teams, including experts from the FBI and the
>RCMP.
>
>This discovery - more accurately, this non-discovery - first was made
>public three weeks ago by the Texas-based intelligence think tank,
>Stratfor. Stratfor estimated the number of ethnic Albanian dead in
>Kosovo at 500.
>
>Last weekend, the story was broadcast for the first time by the TV
>Ontario program Diplomatic Immunity. (Last Sunday's New York Times was
>still using the ``10,000 deaths'' figure.)
>
>The story has begun to appear in European newspapers. Spain's El Pais
>has quoted the head of the Spanish forensic team, Emilo Pujol, as saying
>he had resigned because, after being told to expect to have to carry out
>2,000 autopsies, he'd only had 97 bodies to examine ? none of which
>"showed any signs of mutilation or torture.''
>
>Because 250 of 400 suspected mass graves in Kosovo remain to be
>examined, it's possible that evidence of mass killings will yet be
>found. This is highly unlikely though, because the worst sites were dug
>up first.
>
>No genocide of ethnic Albanians by Serbs, therefore. No ``human
>catastrophe.'' No ``modern-day Holocaust.''
>
>All of those claims may have been an honest mistake. Equally, they may
>have been a grotesque lie concocted to justify a war that NATO
>originally assumed would be over in a day or two, with Milosevic using
>the excuse of some minimal damage as a cover for a surrender, but then
>had to fight (at great expense) for months.
>
>There's no question that atrocities were committed in Kosovo,
>overwhelmingly by the Serb forces, although the ethnic Albanian
>guerrillas were not innocent. Quite obviously, these forces, acting on
>Milosevic's explicit orders, carried out mass expulsions of people,
>terrorizing them and destroying their homes and property.
>
>Acts like these are inexcusable. That they occur often in civil wars
>(far worse are being committed by the Russians in Chechnya), is
>irrelevant to their horror. But they have nothing to do with genocide.
>
>No genocide means no justification for a war inflicted by NATO on a
>sovereign nation. Only a certainty of imminent genocide could have
>legally justified a war that was not even discussed by the U.N. Security
>Council.
>
>No genocide means that the tribunal's indictment of Milosevic becomes
>highly questionable. Even more questionable is the West's continued
>punishment of the Serbs - the Danube bridges and the power stations
>remain in ruins - when their offence may well have been stupidity rather
>than criminality.
>
>The absence of genocide may mean something else, something deeply
>shaming. To halt the supposed genocide, NATO bombed targets in Serbia
>proper. Because of ``collateral'' or accidental damage, such as the
>bombing of a train, some 500 civilians were killed (Belgrade claims
>almost 1,000 deaths). NATO very likely killed as many people as were
>killed in Kosovo.
>
>The number of these dead isn't large enough to justify NATO's actions
>being called a ``human catastrophe.'' But, unless proof of genocide can
>be produced, NATO's actions were clearly a moral catastrophe. THE END
>--------------------
>RICHARD GWYN'S column appears Wednesday, Friday and Sunday in The Star.
>He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Letters to Editor: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>--
>**********************************************************
>CITIZENS CONCERNED ABOUT FREE TRADE/
>CAMPAIGN FOR CANADA
>P.O.Box 1983, Saskatoon, Sask., S7K 3S5
>Saskatoon: (306)244-5757 Fax: (306)244-3790
>Toronto: (416)922-7867  Fax: (416)922-7883
>Vancouver: (604)683-3733 Fax: (604)683-3749
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>website: http://www.davidorchard.com    http://web.idirect.com/~ccaft
>**********************************************************
>
>DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
>==========
>CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting
propagandic
>screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing!  These are sordid
matters
>and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
outright
>frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
effects
>spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
>gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
readers;
>be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
>nazi's need not apply.
>
>Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
>========================================================================
>Archives Available at:
>http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html
>
>http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>========================================================================
>To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
>SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
>SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Om
>
>

DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
==========
CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic
screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing!  These are sordid matters
and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor effects
spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
========================================================================
Archives Available at:
http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
========================================================================
To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Om

Reply via email to