-Caveat Lector-

I didn't say police violence was legitimate. What I am trying to do is
identify WHY the "anarchists" were ignored by the cops on Tuesday, while the
nonviolent demonstrators were targeted. As a matter of principle, I do not
believe that ANY violence is legitimate. With all due respect to my Jesuit
professors, I don't accept the principle of double effect: it is NEVER
appropriate to use violence to stop violence. If activists use violence
themselves, they are simply adopting the methods of the Oligarchy, and by
doing that they have allowed themselves to be coopted. QED: if not, why do
agents provocateurs always try to get their targets to engage in violent
actions? We DARE not use the enemy's weapons to fight the enemy...if we do
that, we might as well just give up and enlist in the enemy's army.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nessie [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 3:00 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [CTRL] COINTELPRO in Seattle
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> >the legitimate nonviolent anti-WTO movement,
>
>
> What makes the nonviolent anti-WTO movement "legitimate" and the violent
> movement not?   Was the Boston Tea Party not violent? Did that make it a
> bad thing?  More to the point, what makes police violence legitimate and
> citizen violence not legitimate?
>
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