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Click Here: <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:577343">The Emperor's
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Contributing Editor Todd Emoff
is an Investment Advisor in his 40s. Todd never protested US foreign
policy, went to demonstrations, or wrote articles against foreign
adventures before the bombing of Serbia began in March.
"This was the first time I saw people being killed by us. This has
changed my view about US foreign policy and the military.
"I studied East European history, I know what happened in the Balkans,
in the twentieth century, and when they started demonizing the Serbian
people it was amazing. In general, the rewriting of history, the sheer
dishonesty of the reporting has been amazing The portrayal of the
Serbian people as fascists. Amazing.
I'm also a student of Jewish history and they sort of intersect there
because the Serbian people stood up for the Jewish people at great
cost in blood. Entirely different from the rest of the area. The
Romanian Jews were not even citizens, the same in Bulgaria, Hungary,
but in Serbia there was always better treatment of the Jews, there was
no pattern of discrimination in Serbia. The point is that these are
not people with a pattern of intolerance so I knew from the get-go
that the Serbian people were not the way the media was portraying them
and when they started bombing Serbia I had to take action. Plus I knew
what a good liar Clinton was. People equate this with the Lewinsky
thing, but it is not that, it is way more than that, I had watched him
lying for years. So when this whole thing broke I knew instinctively
that they would be lying to drum up support because that's just how
they operate, that's their modus operandus.
In Graduate School I happened to have a Serbian girlfriend - she was
born in Belgrade - and I got to know her family. These are just very
nice people. Not intolerant, not at all the way they're being
portrayed. People do not want to believe the extent that the media is
lying. I wouldn't call myself an absolute expert on the Balkans
because that is an immense field, but if you have some familiarity
with the history, you know it's true. It's quite methodical in the
media. Everything bad is attributed to the Serbs and any achievement
or good trait is simply denied. For example, on TV the other night,
they made the great scientist Nikolai Tesla a Croatian - he was from a
Serbian area of what is now Croatia. You have to understand the
Croatians slaughtered almost a million Serbs in Nazi concentration
camps in World War Two so this was like saying Salk, the creator of
the polio vaccine, was a German, that he grew up under the Nazis. I
mean the rewriting of history that I have seen is amazing. This has to
make you read all foreign policy news with a much more critical eye.
You know, I was a very pro-military person and I guess I still am, but
now I see how important it is that its used properly, and it's being
used very carelessly. It's a very dangerous thing, used that way. You
know, it's funny; Clinton more or less said the same thing the other
day, it was a speech to the State Department or some such, and he said
that we are very powerful and we have to be very careful how we use
our military that we don't just go in and use force first and I
thought, this man can stand there and tell us anything! This is
straight out of [George' Orwell's book] 1984. War is peace. Freedom is
Slavery."
Contributing Editor Vera Watkins
works in a Chicago library. "I help people find their roots," she
says. "I traced my husband's back to Charlemagne. Mine are all potato
peasants." And as to how she evolved to the point where she's doing
research for Emperors-clothes.com?
"I was a Democrat. I was registered Democratic. No more. I'll never
vote for a politician again. I was a late bloomer when it came to
doubting my government. I never doubted the press. I even believed the
stories about the incubator babies. You remember, when they wanted to
build support for attacking Iraq and they had this Kuwaiti woman,
supposedly independent, testify before Congress that she had witnessed
the Iraqi troops supposedly pulling babies out of incubators - dumping
them - killing them and she was just an innocent bystander. It turned
out - we found out later - she was the daughter of the Kuwaiti
ambassador. It was all a lie. They wanted US intervention.
"The point is, the Iraqis, Saddam Hussein, had to be demonized so
people would go along with the slaughter. And I bought it. I was so
gullible. And then came Yugoslavia. My father had been in the Royal
Army, the Yugoslav Army during World War II. He was imprisoned in a
German prisoner of war camp and after the war he came here. He wasn't
a nationalist. He married my mother, who was a German, for God's sake.
"After Iraq they started demonizing the Serbian people in the press.
With the Serbs it was the ridiculously high numbers of rapes which the
media blamed on the Serbs but nobody else was doing it. It was
ridiculous. When they started printing trash like that I knew they
were swine. And in Bosnia, one day it was 30,000 killed and the next
day it was 200,000. And the same this time. Now I get my information
from the Internet. When I see Dan Blather, etc., I turn the station. I
go to original sources and see for myself, to a million places except
the mainstream media. And politicians? Politicians are all liars."
Contributing Editor George Thompson
is a 40-something Washington, DC attorney. Politically, he considers
himself a Libertarian. "What we're about? People behind this Website
site may disagree about a number of things but we all agree about the
absolute travesty of what is happening with Yugoslavia, and this cuts
across traditional lines of left and right, Democratic and Republican,
and what the site is about is providing a voice for those of us who
oppose the continuing war against the Serbs and other citizens of
Yugoslavia.
"Because what we're facing now is a crucial question: are we a
Republic or an Empire? We're going to see over and over calls for
intervention for 'humanitarian' reasons but really what it comes down
to is is the US going to become a new British or Roman Empire and face
the same end as both those empires? Or will it remain true to its
founding document, and not attempt to dictate to the rest of the world
but instead live in peace?
"The rewriting of NATO's charter to allow out-of-area offensive
operations - this is all being done very deliberately. However, some
day somebody we attack is going to be able to fight back a with little
more success than the Serbs and then people in the U.S. are going to
wonder 'What were we thinking?'
"We haven't faced that kind of war for a generation. People think
war's a Nintendo game and the only people who die are the 'bad' guys.
For God's sake our leaders have starved half a million Iraqis and not
even given it a moment's thought. We are very quick to say the Serbian
people have some sort of national collective guilt for what they
supposedly did in Kosovo -- which turns out to be some kind of figment
of the State Department's imagination -- but by that token doesn't
America have collective guilt for the sanctions against Iraq, and for
that matter Serbia? What kind of humanitarianism is it that allows
this to be done to millions of people?
"Some Americans may not see these contradictions but the rest of the
world does and views us as bullies - and hypocritical and inconsistent
ones at that. I'm afraid we're riding high now but this is exactly the
type of attitude that causes nations to get together and decide that
we are the enemy."
Contributing Editor Greg Elich
is a leftist. He lives and works in Ohio, where he is in charge of a
computer database. Off the job he's a passionate investigative
researcher. Greg has just returned from a two week trip to Yugoslavia.
You can read about that trip and Greg's views in the interview,
"Bombed because we refuse to be slaves."
Contributing Editor Barbara Gruber
is a psycho-therapist in Massachussetts and Rhode Island.
Editor Jared Israel
owns a small business in the Boston area. In a previous life he was a
leader of the student anti-war movement (Vietnam) but he dropped out
of politics for good in the mid-1970s and became Respectable.
"Or so I thought. I stayed away for 20 years. What finally got me was
the bombing of that pill factory in Sudan. I found the media coverage
completely dishonest. Not just inaccurate, dishonest. I was already
upset with the NY Times over its stories about Yugoslavia. I read the
paper very carefully and it was obvious, from internal evidence, that
the powers-that-be had targeted the Serbian people and were using
various proxy forces to break up Yugoslavia. And the news reports
created a whole substitute reality. I think they count on people
reading in a hurry, skipping over things.
"I knew Yugoslavia is - has been throughout this century - the key to
stability in the Balkans. So trying to break up Yugoslavia was a clear
tip-off. The US and Germany were making a play for the entire area.
Trying to corner the market, so to speak.
"Then the Times lied about the Sudan bombing and the whole way the
government and the media handled that told me: now that there is no
Soviet Union to hold the U.S. government in check, they figure they
can gor for hegemony. I wrote an expose, sent it to a few people.
[See: Upside-Down Journalism] And then came the long drawn-out crisis
in October '98 where Holbrooke kept threatening to bomb Yugoslavia. I
started looking around the Internet for other people who were upset.
"I see the hand of the US government in that Islamic Fundamentalist
rebellion in Russia, in [Taiwanese leader] Lee's abrupt change to a
policy of provoking China, in the fighting between India and Pakistan.
The US is definitely involved against the Angolan and Congolese
governments in Africa, and is deeply involved in the repression in
Columbia. If you count up the conflicts going on now around the world
that the US is overtly or covertly involved in, it begins to look like
the start of World War III.
What gives me hope is, many more people - probably the majority of
people in other countries but also many more people in the US - are
becoming aware. And by the way, Emperors-clothes.com now has readers
in 34 [now 42!] countries."
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