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Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 2:00 PM
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>> Subject: Collateral Damage in Seattle
>>
>> Details from another perspective, forwarded to me by prijatelju Ziggy.
>>
>> Russell M.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 14:00:44 +1100
>> From: Zivko Petru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Russell Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Collateral Damage in Seattle
>> Report from Portland student Jim Desyllas (posted 12-2-99)
>>
>> Called in at a pay phone outside Seattle.Wed., 7:30 pm Pacific time.
>>
>> I just spent 4 days in Seattle. The "information" people are getting from
>> the mass media is false. This was not, as Pres. Clinton claims, a
peaceful
>> protest marred by the actions of violent protesters. This was a massive,
>> strong but peaceful demonstration which was attacked repeatedly by the
>> police with the express purpose of provoking a violent response to
provide
>> photo opportunities for the Western media. I know because I watched it
>> happening. I'll tell you how they did it.
>>
>> As Michel Chossudovsky says in his "Disarming the New World Order" (See
>Note
>> # 1 at end for link to that article) - the government put a lot of effort
>> into making sure the protesters in Seattle were a "loyal opposition" who
>> wanted to reform the WTO, not get rid of it. But the people in Seattle -
>> American steel workers, Canadian postal workers, college kids from all
>over,
>> environmentalists from Australia - you name it - were not for reforming
>the
>> WTO. They were for getting rid of it.
>>
>> And this wasn't just true of the protesters. I interviewed delegates.
None
>> of them had anything favorable to say about the WTO. Two delegates from
>the
>> Caribbean were angry about job loss. One delegate from Peru took a
>bullhorn
>> and got up on a car and spoke to the protestors against the World Trade
>> Organization. He said it hurts the workers and farmers. I interviewed a
>> Norwegian guy from Greenpeace. Totally against it. Even a delegate from
>> Holland said it had hurt the farmers there. He said though it is
>supposedly
>> democratic, that's actually a lie: the US, England and Canada and a few
>> others get together and decide what they want to do. Then they ask the
>rest
>> of the countries to vote and if they vote wrong they threaten,"You won't
>get
>> loans," or whatever. They get them to do what they want by blackmailing
>> them. The Italians we interviewed were upset too. I couldn't find any
>> delegates who were in favor.
>>
>> So the government instigated a "riot" to discredit the movement against
>the
>> WTO because they couldn't dilute it. I am not guessing about this. I was
>> there. I saw it happening. And I will tell you I am frankly shocked to
>see,
>> close up, just how little our leaders care what happens to ordinary
>people.
>> Clinton can pose and speak a lot of flowery stuff but the truth is - we
>are
>> nothing to them. I saw this with my own eyes.
>>
>> Sunday and Monday, there was no violence. None. The people were
>aggressively
>> non-violent; they were self-policing. Up until Tuesday at 4pm there was
>one
>> window broken in the whole city - a McDonalds window. This compares
>> favorably to the typical rock concert, let alone a demonstration of
people
>> who were non-violently barring entry to the World Trade Center!
>>
>> At this point, a new group of police - tactical police - moved in and
>> started gassing people and shooting rubber bullets. Is it any surprise
>that
>> people got mad? Of course, the young kids hit back by breaking some
>windows
>> in retaliation for being gassed, sprayed with very painful pepper gas,
and
>> shot with dangerous "rubber" bullets. The police instigated these kids,
>> plain and simple.
>>
>> Sunday and Monday they had young cops, using them to block the streets.
>> These were trainees. But Tuesday they had the real cops; none of them
were
>> young. They were trained to attack people. A small group, maybe 100
people
>> total, struck back. Then these cops herded that group around the city,
>> making sure there were plenty of photo ops of "violent protesters."
>>
>> A number of times they had these 100 or so protesters caught between
>> buildings and walls of police. They could easily have arrested and
>detained
>> this small number of people and gotten it over with. Instead they would
>gas
>> them and let them go. Then trap them again, gas them again, and again let
>> them go. The cops made no arrests that I know of until late Tuesday night
>> though the skirmishing was going on from three till 9:30. The cops would
>> blockade three or five blocks of an area, give the angry kids room to
>> operate, keep gassing them - when you gas a person, let me tell you, it
>gets
>> them fighting mad.
>>
>> Tuesday night the police gassed all of downtown. This was going on from 3
>> PM, till 6 PM.. Gas everywhere. The kids broke a few windows - McD's,
>> Starbucks - small stuff - burned a few garbage cans. The police were
using
>> these people as extras. It was staged. I believe also the police had
their
>> own people in there, encouraging people to break stuff - if people think
I
>> may be exaggerating, I saw supposed protesters - they were screaming and
>so
>> on - and then later, when everything was over, the same people tackled
>other
>> protestors and put handcuffs on them.
>>
>> At 6pm they issued a State of Emergency. At that point they had pushed
the
>> 100 people outside the city limits, so the police went outside the limits
>> too, and they started gassing that area too, gassing the neighborhoods
>where
>> the regular people live. I am not exaggerating. The police were
>relentless.
>>
>> This was in an area from the city limits for about 10 blocks to the
>Seattle
>> Central Community College. If you were alive, the police gassed you.
>People
>> coming back from work, kids, women, everyone. People would go out of
their
>> houses to see what was happening because these tear gas guns sound like a
>> cannon - and they would get gassed. A block away there was a Texaco gas
>> station - they threw tear gas at gas pumps, believe it or not - they were
>> like vandals. They gassed a bus. I saw it with my own eyes. A bus. The
>> driver, the riders, the people just abandoned it .
>>
>> I was sitting in a little coffee shop called Rauhaus, [Jim did not spell
>> this - the spelling may be wrong.] They were shooting "rubber" bullets at
>> the glass. I picked up a dozen of the things in a few square feet. They
>were
>> also shooting this paint that you can only see with a florescent light.
>They
>> would paint anyone and everyone and then go hunting them.
>>
>> Anyway, because they were gassing everybody, the local people got mad too
>> and they joined the 100 who had been herded out of the city. So soon
there
>> were 500 including the neighborhood people and all very angry. Naturally.
>> Because they had been gassed and hit with pepper spray, that stuff does a
>> number on you. And shot with these damn bullets. Then people set up
>> barricades at Seattle Central Community College. The cops organized
>> themselves for about an hour and then moved in and gassed that area.
>>
>> Today they started mass arrests. That was because Clinton - the Greeks
>call
>> him the Planitarchis, Ruler of the World - was coming. Weeping crocodile
>> tears about how he just LOVES peaceful protest, which of course you'd
have
>> to be two years old to believe he had nothing to do with the police
>action.
>> This whole thing, this police attack, this was US foreign policy, not
some
>> action decided by some bureaucrat in Seattle. This was the State
>Department.
>> They wanted to discredit the people.
>>
>> Sunday there was a protest of solidarity involving people from different
>> walks of life. Monday it got even bigger. Tuesday there was a big sort of
>> carnival where people were doing different things, a band was playing
>music
>> and people were blocking the World Trade Center. And about 3 PM the cops
>> started throwing tear gas.
>>
>> The thing that drove Clinton crazy was that on Tuesday the protesters had
>> succeeded in making nonviolent human chains and had therefore stopped
>> everyone from going into the World Trade Center. Only maybe 27 delegates
>got
>> through, mostly US and British. There were what seemed like tens of
>> thousands of protesters involved. So the police did their gassing number
>> against these nonviolent people to break up the human chains and make the
>> protesters look violent.
>>
>> Today (Wednesday) I followed the union protest put together by the
>> Longshoremen's Union. They went down to the docks and had a rally then
>> marched to Third Avenue. As soon as they got there the cops started
>gassing
>> them. There was an old lady there. She had gone downtown by bus to buy
>> something. This lady was in her 70's and I saw her trying to run, but she
>> couldn't breathe. She was in shock. I carried her to a building entryway.
>> She was gasping, terrified. She had been in Germany, and it was like she
>was
>> having flashbacks. The tear gas sounds like gunfire and there were
>> helicopters overhead, sirens, cops on horses, everything.
>>
>> They had clearly made a decision to destroy this movement.
>>
>> So anyway there I was with her in this building and she wanted to go to
>the
>> hospital but there was tear gas everywhere and I was afraid if I tried to
>> move her she'd be gassed again. I went to this line of cops and begged -
I
>> mean begged - these riot police to help her. They ignored me. A girl told
>me
>> later that a one year old had been gassed. And I myself saw a girl no
more
>> than 18 - a cop had busted her lip wide open - she was bleeding - and
then
>> they gassed everyone including her. After that she was kneeling on the
>> ground crying like a baby and praying for 15 minutes, Hail Mary, Hail
>Mary.
>> Over and over. She was in a state of shock. They just gassed these people
>> who were sitting down non-violently and doing nothing. Nothing.
>>
>> At one point the Seattle Mayor said his boys were not using rubber
>bullets.
>> Miraculously, by then I had ten in my pocket. I could open a little
>market,
>> sell the things. They are everywhere. I and other people started giving
>them
>> to delegates and stuff. "See what they're doing? They're shooting
"rubber"
>> bullets and lying about it." We showed them to the media. I guess enough
>> people and the media got the information because the Mayor made a new
>> statement then that they were using them. As if he hadn't known.
>>
>> They shot rubber bullets from four feet away into the face of a guy next
>to
>> me, broke all his front teeth. When that happened I lost it. I forgot I
>was
>> supposed to be getting the news for all of you and I started yelling at
>the
>> cops, "What the hell is wrong with you? Are you sick, man?" So this cop
>> aimed his gun right at me. That was his answer. So I first put my hands
in
>> front of my face because I didn't want to lose my teeth. And then I
>thought,
>> to hell with it. I was wearing my target shirt that said "Collateral
>> Damage", you know? With a bullseye target, like they wore during the
>bombing
>> in Yugoslavia. And I told this guy, "Go ahead, shoot! Here! Here's the
>> target!" He didn't shoot me.
>>
>> I want to emphasize, these protesters were NOT violent people. They were
>the
>> most non-violent people I have ever seen. Even when I was screaming at
the
>> cop, this girl came up to me and said, "Do not scream. This is
>non-violent."
>> These people were too much to believe. They must meditate all the time, I
>> don't know.
>>
>> Clinton said he supports nonviolent protest. That is baloney. Today
(Wed.)
>> the protesters were causing absolutely no "trouble". In downtown the cops
>> had people running who weren't even protesters - like that old lady or
>just
>> people going to work or shopping - everyone was getting gassed. The
busses
>> weren't running because of the gas. I was lucky to catch one with a
driver
>> who could still see. I begged him to drive the old lady home - the driver
>> changed his route especially for her. If you want to find human decency,
>> stay away from the Planitarchis. Go to the to regular people. They have
>> some. The Planitarchis lost all his years ago. Now he wouldn't know human
>> decency if it came up and bit him.
>>
>> So now I have made personal acquaintance with the people who run this
>> country, and they are quite simply scum. There were people at work,
people
>> with babies, they were all getting gassed because the government would
not
>> allow an assembly of people speaking their minds. It is the same as what
>> happened in Athens. Clinton's requirements on the Greek government
created
>> the riot and he did the same thing here. And then he says he supports
>> nonviolent protest? How? By shooting rubber bullets? And today they
>outlawed
>> gas masks. They want to make sure everyone gets his money's worth.
>>
>> Today, just like yesterday night, the police were in the residential
>> neighborhoods. People in cafs were getting gassed and shot at, you could
>> hear it on the windows, bang, bang, bang. A guy trying to cross the
street
>> to go to his house got gassed. First a drunk guy outside a bar yelled at
>the
>> cops "Get out of here!" so they gassed him. And then this other guys was
>> just crossing the street to go home so the cops figured, might as well
gas
>> him too. People got gassed for coming out of restaruants and bars and
>> coffeee shops. I'm amazed that nobody died who had asthma or something.
>>
>> Or maybe somebody did die and they didn't talk about it. I mean after
all,
>> it's just collateral damage..
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Note # 1 - For a critical look at the World Trade Organization, click on
>> SEATTLE AND BEYOND: DISARMING THE NEW WORLD ORDER or go to
>> http://www.emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/seattle.htm
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