-Caveat Lector- =========================== The Committee for National Solidarity Tolstojeva 34, 11000 Belgrade, YU -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 12:40 AM Subject: SN501:My response to Vermont police officer posted in Voice Of The Grunt >Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Full-name: SendMeHack >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:14:47 EST >Subject: Of Interest To Grunt Readers >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >On 13 December, Subject: Of Interest To Grunt Readers, >there was an article written by a Vermont police officer. >With all due respect to my friend, Hack, here are my comments. > >Stella > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >Is this one of the police officers who was taken off the streets of the >United States and sent over to protect Bosnian Muslims in one of Clintons >good will gestures? Gratis my taxes? > >There are too many cracks in his story to be believed. Let us look at some >of what he says. > >He speaks about the British SAS soldier who witnessed a Bosnian Serb >machine gunner open fire on the pedestrian bridge as it was full of >people. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it is not, considering that everything >the police officer says is hearsay. He doesnt give one verifiable source. > >The police officers report does not track with reports at the time. There >was no UNPROFOR presence at Gorazde until Lt. Gen. Sir Michael Rose, >UNPROFOR Commander, sent a small contingent to investigate the reported >Serbian attacks on the city. Or, more importantly, sent them so that an >UNPROFOR presence could be used as excuse to begin air attacks. > >Perhaps the officer should have read The Truth About Gorazde, by Yossef >Bodansky, Director & Vaughn S. Forrest, Chief of Staff, Task Force on >Terrorism & Unconventional Warfare Report by the U.S. House of >Representatives (May 4, 1994). Gen. Rose, asked the Muslims to stop their >provocations in Gorazde. Indeed, in an interview with French TV (TF-1) on >April 12, Gen. Rose acknowledged that the Muslims Shoot on the Serbs to >step up the pressure and to obtain a fresh intervention from NATO. This >shooting by the Muslims was coming from the supposedly unarmed U.N. Safe >haven. Then there was the saga of the Gorazde hospital, as General Rose >put it. He wrote, Meanwhile, Bosnian Muslim Special Forces raided Bosnian >Serb positions, instigating a Bosnian Serb shelling of Gorazde. This >incident was depicted by the Western media in Sarajevo as an example of >Bosnian Serb aggression against innocent civilians in Gorazde. Indeed, >special attention was paid to the frequent fire aimed at the hospital >which was also the main Muslim observation and battle management post to >drum up support for Western action against the Serbs. Subsequently, the Un >and NATO were asked to launch airstrikes in order to protect the UN troops >that had been inserted into Gorazde. It is also noteworthy that on 9 April >the Bosnian Serbs agreed to a UNPROFOR initiative to begin ceasefire >negotiations in the Sarajevo airport. The Bosnian Muslims refused to attend >this meeting. > >Those of you who are into more conspiratorial aspects of the war, may have >noted that the day before the first bombs were dropped at Gorazde, >newspapers carried a report that Saudi Arabia had just signed a letter of >intent to buy $6 billion worth of commercial aircraft from Boeing and >McDonald Douglas. The following day we bombed. Was there a connection? >You decide. > >Attacks on civilians are indefensible. However, didn't NATO pilots drop >bombs on a bridge full of traffic and pedestrians crowded on a Sunday >afternoon where 17 people were wounded and nine people died including "a >priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). > >In a civil war, ugly things happen. Would the Vermont police officer also >like to talk about the Canadian soldier who actually witnessed the >following: > >"On 17 July, we were tasked to provide VIP security for a meeting >between all the factions and Sir Douglas Hurd, the British Foreign >Secretary... > >We spent the day moving the foreign secretary around and dodging well- >staged incidents the local (Muslims) put on for his benefit. At the Bosnian >Presidency the TDF (Territorial Defense Forces) mortared their own >people again as Hurd arrived. He had just dismounted from Kevin's >track when several mortars slammed into the square across the road, >killing several civilians. It had been staged by the Muslims to impress >Hurd. They told him the Serbs did this to them everyday, when in fact >they killed their own people again for political reasons. Animals." > >"...that evening there were some kids hanging around on a patio >at the base of the building. The guys had thrown them some candy until >I told them to stop. I didn't want every kid in the city to hand out >beneath our windows. Also on the patio was an attractive teenage >girl. She spoke some English and was having a conversation with some >of our guys who were hanging out of the window. > >Suddenly, out of the corner of his eye, one of the troops saw...a mortar >bomb. In the moment before it detonated, he realized it was heading right >for the kids. Before he could shout a warning, the bomb exploded. >the impact threw our guys back out of the window and onto the >floor. Immediately, more rounds followed and the building rocked... >Warrant Sullivan...rushed outside... > >"What he found shocked him to the core. There were little pieces of >children everywhere. Arms, legs and blood covered the patio. >The teenage girl died instantly. The other kids were badly wounded. >Brit medics showed up and tried to sort out the mess...They got >the kids on street chars and tried to match the arms and legs with >the proper child. It was horrible. > >"Later that night, the platoon area was pretty subdued. Some of the >guys blamed themselves for talking to the kids and throwing them candy, >but we all knew- we hadn't launched those bombs. The next morning, >a report came in from the observers that no Serb mortars had fired that >they were aware of. The trajectory was calculated and it was determined >that the Bosnians had mortared their own children. For public relations >purposes. Sure enough, the morning news in the city reported that the >UN and their Serb allies had these children. We could not believe it. I >can't speak for the others, but that morning I would have happily killed any >TDF (Muslim) troops I saw. I was growing tired of the whole mess. These >people did not care. They were animals." - From his book, "The Sharp End, >A Canadian Soldier's Story," by James R. Davis. > >The Vermont officer neglects to mention that Mr. Akashi, former UN >Representatives in Bosnia, admitted in The Washington Times (1 November 95) >it is a fact that Bosnian government forces have used the safe areas of >not only Srebrenica, but Sarajevo, Tuzla, Bihac, Gorazde for training, >recuperation and refurbishing their troops. In other words, the so-called >safe-havens referred to by the Vermont police officer, were in essence, used >as military camps to train Mujahedin fighters from Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, >Turkey and the entire Islamic world, free to commit their treachery by >attacking Serbian villages and returning like thieves in the night back to >the safety of their UN protectors, who conveniently looked the other way to >these violations. > >The Vermont police officer mentions 8,000 Bosnian Moslems massacred by >Serbs. To date, this has never been documented. To the contrary, 24 >journalists went to inspect the site of the mass grave taken by satellite >photo which was said to have contained the bodies of the 8,000 Muslim men. >All 24 journalists came away empty-handed because they concluded that it was >not a mass grave but didnt bother to report it, thereby allowing the myth >of the massacred Bosnian Moslem men to continue. > >As for genocide. Who are the real victims? In Kosovo, where the Serbs >were once the majority, they have now been reduced to almost zero in number >through acts of terror by the Kosovo Liberation Army cutthroats. The Serbs >religion, their culture and their history are all but eradicated, thanks to >Bill I Feel Your Pain Clinton. There are more Serb refugees than Croats >and Bosnians combined. > >Serbs are not spitting on us because they are ashamed. They are spitting on >us because we betrayed them. If there is a genocide taking place in this >Balkan tragedy, it is against the Serbian people. > >It is regrettable that the Vermont officer could be taken in so easily >without looking at both sides of this tragedy based mostly on hearsay. I >can only say, that there are none so blind as those who will not see. It >appears he is also a racist and a bigot. > >BTW: Is there an e-mail address where I can send this gentleman my >Open Letter to General Michael Short since he is so proud of what we did >during those 78-days of an immoral, illegal attack on a sovereign nation? > >As ever, > >Stella > > > > Secretary General Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Art historian =========================== DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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[CTRL] My response to Vermont police officer posted in Voice Of The Grunt
Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:13:27 -0800