In a message dated 12/23/1999 12:07:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't know what sources Das Goat's reading. He says "nearly all primary sources," but that is hard to believe since such would be beyond the capacity of a single lifetime. And does he mean he reads Egyptian? There is also the question of interpretation, but that would require an entire article. << I would assume that he is in fact reading books written and edited by Western/Christian historians, and I would suggest he study the numerous books I have sourced, including and especially Gerald Massey. If he truly cares, he can find much of Massey's work online. Some links are at http://www.truthbeknown.com/christcon.htm . He could also check out the work by Albert Churchward. << Horus was a SUN GOD, and these various characteristics listed are those of the SUN GOD, which the December 25th birthdate alone is enough to prove. So that's the first point where Das Goat is wrong and doesn't even display common sense. In fact, he apparently doesn't understand that Horus is a SUN GOD, which even the most basic books will tell you. >>
In a message dated 12/23/1999 12:07:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't know what sources Das Goat's reading. He says "nearly all primary sources," but that is hard to believe since such would be beyond the capacity of a single lifetime. And does he mean he reads Egyptian? There is also the question of interpretation, but that would require an entire article. I would assume that he is in fact reading books written and edited by Western/Christian historians, and I would suggest he study the numerous books I have sourced, including and especially Gerald Massey. If he truly cares, he can find much of Massey's work online. Some links are at http://www.truthbeknown.com/christcon.htm . He could also check out the work by Albert Churchward. Horus was a SUN GOD, and these various characteristics listed are those of the SUN GOD, which the December 25th birthdate alone is enough to prove. So that's the first point where Das Goat is wrong and doesn't even display common sense. In fact, he apparently doesn't understand that Horus is a SUN GOD, which even the most basic books will tell you. Horus's "mother," Isis, represents, among other things, the MOON, and it was said that the new moon was the Virgin through which the sun was born. Osiris is the "heavenly father" who "impregnates" the new moon with his light, from which is born Horus. This is Egyptian mythology 101, although the standardized Western textbooks have truncated the various solar attributes, for obvious reasons, in that they would reveal the origins of the Christ character. I am told by Muslims that Arabic texts are not so edited and verify my research in large part. Let me give you an example of this convenient editing: In Larousse's Encyclopedia of Mythology - a well-respected authority - in the entry on Osiris, it reads: "The names and appellations of Osiris were countless. There are about a hundred in the litanies of the Book of the Dead." Naturally, it doesn't list any of them, because if it did, we would find the following, among an estimated 200, rather than 100. Osiris, it should be recalled, was the "father" sun, and his titles and attributes were also applied to Horus, the "son" or renewed solar incarnation. Anyone who knows anything about Egyptian mythology knows that it is very complicated and that it mutated countless times over the millennia. Here are but a couple of Osiris/Horus's titles omitted from Larousse and, evidently, Das Goat's "exhaustive" sources: "Lord of Lords" "King of Kings" "God of Gods" "the Resurrection and the Life" "the Good Shepherd" "Eternity and Everlastingness." The famous Egyptologist Wallis Budge says of Osiris, "From first to last, Osiris was to the Egyptians the god-man who suffered, and died, and rose again, and reigned eternally in heaven. They believed that they would inherit eternal life, just as he had done." Let me clarify a few more points: "El-azarus" is the compound of "El," the Semitic god as in Is-Ra-El, who also was essentially a sun god, and Azarus, which was the Latinized name of Osiris. As the dying sun, the "mummy" Osiris is resurrected by the new sun Horus. In addition, the "priest" (I don't call him that) is "Anup the Baptizer," representing the constellation of the Waterman, Aquarius, whose head is cut off as it rises heliacally at a certain point during the year. The 12 disciples are, of course, the constellations of the zodiac. Such is a common motif in astrotheology and the solar mythos. The two thieves that the sun god is crucified between are the signs of Sagittarius and Capricorn, the months when the sun god's strength is at its lowest and is being stolen by these signs. The three days occur during the winter solstice when the sun god appears to be dead in the tomb of heaven/earth, to be resurrected on the morning of December 25th. The anointing of the sun god occurs on a number of occasions, including when "his" rays dip into the ocean. The sun was considered to be most visible proxy of "God" and as such as considered the "Anointed One" or "Messiah," although the term in Egyptian is "Messu." Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus; with Kneph, the "Holy Ghost," impregnating the virgin; and with the infant being attended by three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. This image is recorded by Massey, but I suppose Das would just have to go to Luxor himself. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis - the original "Madonna and Child." All this is in my book, referenced up the whazoo. His is an unusual tactic: Debunking by saying EVERYTHING IS WRONG, calling it a "total fabrication." In this case, such a claim merely shows the ignorance and unwillingness to learn on the part of the reader. >>
