-Caveat Lector- In the course of researching <AIDS INC.> Jon Rappoport interviewed Dr. Joseph Sonnabend. Here Dr. Sonnabend discusses the social forces behind the acceptance of the HIV theory. "Dr. Joseph Sonnabend spent ten years working at the British National Institute for Medical Research (their equivalent of our NIH). He is a member of the British Royal College of Physicians, has been Associate Professor of Medicine at the Mount Sinai Medical School in New York City. Since 1978, he has been treating patients in New York for sexually transmitted diseases and AIDS. For several years in the mid-1980s, he was the editor of the journal, <AIDS Research>. That journal, now exclusively concentrating on HIV, was once the only true independent voice in AIDS research. Sonnabend was released from his position by the publisher when it became apparent that his approach to AIDS was in serious conflict with the more widely accepted HIV-view. I spoke with him on March 25th, 1988. Q: Where did the HIV hypothesis come from? A: Several places. One involved a very sloppy analysis by the CDC of the first Los Angeles patients. Q: From proposing that AIDS comes from a number of sources acting in concert, to proposing that AIDS is not a single disease-entity at all, seems a short step. A: That's right. Q: So if a patient comes in with pneumocystis, you could try to learn what produced the immuno-suppression that led to that pneumocystis -- and once you learned that, there would be no reason to use the word AIDS. There would be no reason to go further and say there is something <else> that patient has called AIDS. A: That's right. I would go along with that Q: In which case, the HIV thesis would seem to be operating as a diversion from the truth. A: Yes. There is a history to this. There was such a hasty process -- the worst thing that happened was the announcement in 1984 that HIV had been discovered to be the cause of AIDS> That did damage to the whole scientific endeavor. There are social factors here, you know, in the whole presumption that every disease has a single agent. Some people want to believe that nothing we do in our lives, in our environments, is really unhealthy. That poverty is really not a bad thing, just a choice, and it doesn't make people sick. <snip> The single-agent idea of disease, when believed across the board, at the expense of environmental factors, absolves people whose economic policies create ghettos and keep people poor. It's so easy to say that a virus came along and made people sick, not their living conditions. <snip> Or in Africa, it's much easier to say that illness from the collapse of malaria-eradication programs or hunger is really due to HIV. <snip> There really is now such a thing as the AIDS-establishment. It is a group which receives virtually all the grant money, sits on important boards (such as the fund raising organization, Americans for AIDS Research). There is definitely a group, and sadly, it's not the best talent. <snip> Q: I've had people say to me, if HIV doesn't cause AIDS, why do so many scientists around the world say it does? A: It's a selection process. The ones who agree HIV causes AIDS get their articles printed. Q: But then people also like to maintain that if HIV were a mistake, some famous scientists would have spoken out publicly by now. A: That's ridiculous. That's terrible. That's ascribing a quality to researchers that doesn't exist. <snip> . . . you'd think that these researchers would have more respect for the truth, more social conscience. But these researchers are like anybody else. They fight for their jobs, they're intimidated, they don't stand up. <snip> I asked an interferon researcher how they could continue to give AIDS patients this when it had such clear immuno-suppressive properties. He said well, the drug companies had such huge unsold stocks of recombinant interferon -- anything that would make the annual shareholder meeting a happy event . . . <snip> AIDS has become an international business, an industry. It could be assessed at billions of dollars." -- <AIDS INC.> by Jon Rappoport, Human Energy Press, San Bruno, 1988, ISBN: 0-941523-03-9, pp 139-143 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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