-Caveat Lector- What still bugs me about the whole thing is that Clinton was born in 1946 so he was 50+ years old. Lewinsky was born in ? but was certainly not more that 20 when it happened. Clinton is not "Bubba" he went to Yale Bush Sr. was born in 1924 documentation that he is a pedifile. when was Bush Jr. was born in 1946 Age is physical, chronological, mental, and emotional so almost anyone qualifies as a child to a Sadist, for sadist control. His example as a role model leaves a lot to be desired! MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > [This x-post begins with some relevant questions by a member of > another list. --MS] > > --begin forward-- > > There's a legal finesse-point or two that I don't pretend to > understand here. > > Tripp maintains she didn't know that what she was doing was not > protected (Maryland's law, from what I've read, immunizes those > who don't comprehend the illegality of recording). Today's > testimony clarifies this not at all. If she were counseled that > the "grant of immunity... would make it difficult for any state > prosecutor to use her recorded conversations as evidence in a > criminal proceeding", then it would sensibly seem to be a > get-out-of-jail-free card for Tripp. Bennett testified, "[We > made] the task (of state prosecution) insurmountable." Certainly > this testimony would argue *against* the hysteric "Hung Out To > Dry!" headline on Drudge. Unless I'm missing something. > > Secondly, Tripp's recording always (as far as I know) crossed > State lines and would therefore seem to be a Federal issue, over > which Starr's office's immunity grant would seem to be > unequivocal. > > Could somebody please explain why this isn't a slam-dunk for > Tripp? > > --Scott J. > > From: > > http://news.excite.com/news/r/991213/14/clinton-scandal-tripp > > Starr staffers say Tripp not guaranteed protection > Updated 2:20 PM ET December 13, 1999 > By David Morgan > > ELLICOTT CITY, Md. (Reuters) - Linda Tripp, whose secretly > recorded phone conversations with Monica Lewinsky led to > President Clinton's impeachment, was never guaranteed protection > against state charges she violated Maryland's wiretap laws, an > independent counsel's office lawyer said Monday. > > Investigators from the office of former independent counsel > Kenneth Starr instead offered the former White House secretary a > grant of immunity that they believed would make it difficult for > any state prosecutor to use her recorded conversations as > evidence in a criminal proceeding. > > "We told her the state of Maryland was a separate sovereign (from > the federal government) and that they may ultimately be able to > return an indictment against her," Stephen Binhak, a federal > prosecutor attached to Starr's office, testified at the start of > a hearing in Howard County Circuit Court that will determine > whether Tripp should be tried on two criminal counts of violating > the Maryland wiretap statute. > > Jackie Bennett, the Starr deputy who signed Tripp's immunity > letter, said, "What we could do, and intended to so, and did do, > was to make the task (of state prosecution) insurmountable." > > Tripp secretly taped more than 20 conversations in which Lewinsky > discussed her illicit affair with Clinton. Some were taped from > Tripp's Maryland home, violating the state law that makes it a > crime to record telephone conversations unless all parties > consent to it. > > The best form of protection Tripp could hope for, Binhak said, > was a grant of federal immunity "that would make it > extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible for the state of > Maryland to use those tapes in the prosecution of a criminal > case." > > Binhak, one of four former Starr staffers to take the stand > Monday, testified that "Mrs. Tripp was not grasping the > technicalities" of her legal situation when she first met at her > home with four members of Starr's staff around midnight on Jan. > 12, 1998. > > But now, nearly two years later, that same distinction could be > crucial for the Columbia, Maryland, woman who faces up to five > years in prison and $10,000 in fines on each count if convicted. > > Howard County Circuit Judge Diane Leasure was expected to rule in > open court Tuesday morning as to whether Tripp's immunity began > on Jan. 16, when Starr's office gave her a letter of immunity and > subpoenaed her tape-recordings of conversations with Lewinsky, or > on Feb. 19, when it was officially ordered by a federal judge in > Washington. > > Tripp's attorneys, who want the case dismissed, claim her > immunity protection began on the earlier date. If Leasure agrees, > prosecutors will lose a crucial piece of evidence, namely a taped > conversation with Lewinsky from Dec. 22, 1997. > > Tripp is charged specifically with making the tape and sharing > its contents with a reporter from Newsweek magazine. > > On Monday, Tripp was absent from court but submitted a sworn > affidavit maintaining that she would never have come forward with > her evidence against Clinton without Starr's immunity letter and > the later court order to assist investigators. > > Later in the week, the judge also will oversee a so-called > Kastigar hearing in which prosecutors must show that their > evidence against Tripp is independent from the protected findings > of Starr's investigation. Lawyers have said that Lewinsky herself > may be called to testify. > > Because of the White House sex scandal's rampant coverage by > myriad media outlets, ranging from supermarket tabloids to > cable-TV talk shows, the challenge facing Maryland prosecutors is > being compared with a failed attempt by U.S. authorities to > prosecute former Reagan aide Oliver North for his role in the > Iran-Contra affair following his televised testimony before > Congress. > > Starr's investigation of Clinton's affair with Lewinsky, sparked > by Tripp's tapes, led to impeachment charges of perjury and > obstruction of justice against the president. 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