[CTRL] IUFO: Solar EMG and paranormal effects at Fatima, 1917?

Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:23:33 -0800 

More to the ongoing discussion of the origin of paranormal experiences.  This
is a very suggestive report on the possible effects of solar phenomena on
paranormal "miracles" felt by 3 girls at Fatima, Portugal in 1917.  Note
several key "end-of-the-world" messages emanate from the Fatima events, and
are an important part of contemporary apocalyptic culture.
Alfred
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 http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/lists/iufo/2000/Jan/0292.html

 > From: "Bill Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >
 > Recently we had mention of the Fatima apparitions on the discussion list.
I found the following post on the UFO Updates list and it seems there is
surprising new information concerning these apparitions that seem to tie them
more closely to UFO-like phenomena:
 >
 > Bill Hamilton Executive Director Skywatch International, Inc.
 >
 > Fatima UFO-like Apparitions, 1917
 >
 > In 1917, from May 13 to October 13 ocurred at a rural spot of Portugal,
Cova da Iria, near the village of FATIMA, a serie of paranormal/religious
events which turned to be spread and accepted around the catholic world as
"apparitions of the Virgin Mary".
 >
 > Among ufologists on the other hand, there are many who feel that the
events at FATIMA, in 1917, may have a close and familiar ufological
perspective. Jacques Vallée or Paul Misraki, were some of the researchers who
suspected of that kind of related modern "unidentified aerial phenomena".
 >
 > Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, two Portuguese historians, challenged
themselves to prove these claims, and after six years of intensive effort
they succeded in assembling an impressive body of documentation and
testimonial evidence that suggests new hypothesis to explain the so-called
"Virgin Mary apparitions".
 >
 > In 1982 the two researchers publish a 460 pages book untitled
 > "Intervenção Extraterrestre em Fátima - as aparições e o fenómeno OVNI"
(Amadora, Livraria Bertrand) ("Extraterrestrial Intervention in Fatima - the
apparitions and the UFO phenomenon"),which was reedited in 1995 in a revised
version by Editorial Estampa, Lisboa, under the title "Tha Fatima Apparitions
and the UFO Phenomenon".
 >
 > This great work - the most detailed thesis ever published by Portuguese
scholars - on the contrary of most the foreign books about this event is
based on first-hand sources, original interrogations and statements made by
the three principal percipients of the "apparitions", namely Lucia, Francisco
and Jacinta and also a selected group of on hundred first-hand witnesses of
the events.
 >
 > A few important and forgot issues of the 1917 events were uncovered by
Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, such as:
 >
 > 1) - a "fourth percipient" namely Carolina Carreira, whom describes a
"telephatic type of contact with a fair-headed being of small stature who
instilled into her head a repetitive order described as follows: "Come here
and say three Ave Marias, come and say three Ave Marias...".
 >
 > 2) - a surprised description given by Lucia, the eldest of the three
percipients, when at the "Parochial Enquiry" she spoke of a "very shining
lady, about 1 meter and 10 cms in height, seming to be between 12 and 15
years old, wearing a narrow skirt, a jacket and a cloak, all with golden
cords, running through them. She came from "above" and vanished-gradually in
the inverse direction, made no facial movements, nor did she articulate her
lower lips, and moved only her hands from time to time. She had a luminous
BALL in hand and she turned her back towards the percipients when she
departed"
 >
 > 3) - the authors managed to determine the distance parameters of the
so-called "solar phenomenon" of October 13, 1917, from the witnesses
positions on the ground. J. Fernandes and F. d' Armada found that they were
all within a band of 70 meters wide and running through the Cova da Iria
area, center of that spectacular aerial phenomenon, called by the vast
multitude of people waiting as the "miracle of the sun".
 >
 > This band, oriented south-north, contained all the witnesses who reported
secondaty effects only experienced during the time of the "solar phenomenon",
that is to say at the moment when the
 > "solar object" descended in a terrifying parabola over the crowd of 60,000
people. The effects felt in that band were: 1. sudden and intense heat; 2.
drying of clothing and of the soil; 3. physiological effects or "miraculous
cures".
 >
 > These kind of effects seems consistents, according some researchers, like
nuclear physicists James McCampbell and Jean-Pierre Petit (CNRS, France),
with a "microwave radiation", also detected in preliminar samples from "crop
circles" spots by the biophysics dr. W. Levengood. Others studies, conducted
by the Canadian Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineering and the
french Toulouse DERMO laboratories found a "hamming or buzzing effect" inside
the percipients's heads produced by a microwave radiation between 200and 3000
MHz, and called as
 > "microwave auditive phenomenon", as well perceived and reported in the
1917 Fatima apparitions scenario as well".
 >
 > We look for an audacious, serious editor to translate and edit an english
version of this work full of NEW information and scientific approach.
 >
 > Thanks for all the help.
 >
 > Joaquim Fernandes University Fernando Pessoa Praça Nove de Abril, 349
4249-004 Porto Portugal
 >

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> From: "Bill Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Recently we had mention of the Fatima apparitions on the discussion list. I found 
>the following post on the UFO Updates list and it seems there is surprising new 
>information concerning these apparitions that seem to tie them more closely to 
>UFO-like phenomena:
>
> Bill Hamilton Executive Director Skywatch International, Inc.
>
> Fatima UFO-like Apparitions, 1917
>
> In 1917, from May 13 to October 13 ocurred at a rural spot of Portugal, Cova da 
>Iria, near the village of FATIMA, a serie of paranormal/religious events which turned 
>to be spread and accepted around the catholic world as "apparitions of the Virgin 
>Mary".
>
> Among ufologists on the other hand, there are many who feel that the events at 
>FATIMA, in 1917, may have a close and familiar ufological perspective. Jacques Vallée 
>or Paul Misraki, were some of the researchers who suspected of that kind of related 
>modern "unidentified aerial phenomena".
>
> Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, two Portuguese historians, challenged 
>themselves to prove these claims, and after six years of intensive effort they 
>succeded in assembling an impressive body of documentation and testimonial evidence 
>that suggests new hypothesis to explain the so-called "Virgin Mary apparitions".
>
> In 1982 the two researchers publish a 460 pages book untitled
> "Intervenção Extraterrestre em Fátima - as aparições e o fenómeno OVNI" (Amadora, 
>Livraria Bertrand) ("Extraterrestrial Intervention in Fatima - the apparitions and 
>the UFO phenomenon"),which was reedited in 1995 in a revised version by Editorial 
>Estampa, Lisboa, under the title "Tha Fatima Apparitions and the UFO Phenomenon".
>
> This great work - the most detailed thesis ever published by Portuguese scholars - 
>on the contrary of most the foreign books about this event is based on first-hand 
>sources, original interrogations and statements made by the three principal 
>percipients of the "apparitions", namely Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta and also a 
>selected group of on hundred first-hand witnesses of the events.
>
> A few important and forgot issues of the 1917 events were uncovered by Joaquim 
>Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, such as:
>
> 1) - a "fourth percipient" namely Carolina Carreira, whom describes a "telephatic 
>type of contact with a fair-headed being of small stature who instilled into her head 
>a repetitive order described as follows: "Come here and say three Ave Marias, come 
>and say three Ave Marias...".
>
> 2) - a surprised description given by Lucia, the eldest of the three percipients, 
>when at the "Parochial Enquiry" she spoke of a "very shining lady, about 1 meter and 
>10 cms in height, seming to be between 12 and 15 years old, wearing a narrow skirt, a 
>jacket and a cloak, all with golden cords, running through them. She came from 
>"above" and vanished-gradually in the inverse direction, made no facial movements, 
>nor did she articulate her lower lips, and moved only her hands from time to time. 
>She had a luminous BALL in hand and she turned her back towards the percipients when 
>she departed"
>
> 3) - the authors managed to determine the distance parameters of the so-called 
>"solar phenomenon" of October 13, 1917, from the witnesses positions on the ground. 
>J. Fernandes and F. d' Armada found that they were all within a band of 70 meters 
>wide and running through the Cova da Iria area, center of that spectacular aerial 
>phenomenon, called by the vast multitude of people waiting as the "miracle of the 
>sun".
>
> This band, oriented south-north, contained all the witnesses who reported secondaty 
>effects only experienced during the time of the "solar phenomenon", that is to say at 
>the moment when the
> "solar object" descended in a terrifying parabola over the crowd of 60,000 people. 
>The effects felt in that band were: 1. sudden and intense heat; 2. drying of clothing 
>and of the soil; 3. physiological effects or "miraculous cures".
>
> These kind of effects seems consistents, according some researchers, like nuclear 
>physicists James McCampbell and Jean-Pierre Petit (CNRS, France), with a "microwave 
>radiation", also detected in preliminar samples from "crop circles" spots by the 
>biophysics dr. W. Levengood. Others studies, conducted by the Canadian Institute of 
>Electrical and Electronic Engineering and the french Toulouse DERMO laboratories 
>found a "hamming or buzzing effect" inside the percipients's heads produced by a 
>microwave radiation between 200and 3000 MHz, and called as
> "microwave auditive phenomenon", as well perceived and reported in the 1917 Fatima 
>apparitions scenario as well".
>
> We look for an audacious, serious editor to translate and edit an english version of 
>this work full of NEW information and scientific approach.
>
> Thanks for all the help.
>
> Joaquim Fernandes University Fernando Pessoa Praça Nove de Abril, 349 4249-004 Porto 
>Portugal
>

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IUFO: Fatima UFO-like Apparitions, 1917

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Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:58:32 -0800 

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Recently we had mention of the Fatima apparitions on the discussion list. I found the following post on the UFO Updates list and it seems there is surprising new information concerning these apparitions that seem to tie them more closely to UFO-like phenomena:

Bill Hamilton Executive Director Skywatch International, Inc.

Fatima UFO-like Apparitions, 1917

In 1917, from May 13 to October 13 ocurred at a rural spot of Portugal, Cova da Iria, near the village of FATIMA, a serie of paranormal/religious events which turned to be spread and accepted around the catholic world as "apparitions of the Virgin Mary".

Among ufologists on the other hand, there are many who feel that the events at FATIMA, in 1917, may have a close and familiar ufological perspective. Jacques Vallée or Paul Misraki, were some of the researchers who suspected of that kind of related modern "unidentified aerial phenomena".

Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, two Portuguese historians, challenged themselves to prove these claims, and after six years of intensive effort they succeded in assembling an impressive body of documentation and testimonial evidence that suggests new hypothesis to explain the so-called "Virgin Mary apparitions".

In 1982 the two researchers publish a 460 pages book untitled
"Intervenção Extraterrestre em Fátima - as aparições e o fenómeno OVNI" (Amadora, Livraria Bertrand) ("Extraterrestrial Intervention in Fatima - the apparitions and the UFO phenomenon"),which was reedited in 1995 in a revised version by Editorial Estampa, Lisboa, under the title "Tha Fatima Apparitions and the UFO Phenomenon".

This great work - the most detailed thesis ever published by Portuguese scholars - on the contrary of most the foreign books about this event is based on first-hand sources, original interrogations and statements made by the three principal percipients of the "apparitions", namely Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta and also a selected group of on hundred first-hand witnesses of the events.

A few important and forgot issues of the 1917 events were uncovered by Joaquim Fernandes and Fina d'Armada, such as:

1) - a "fourth percipient" namely Carolina Carreira, whom describes a "telephatic type of contact with a fair-headed being of small stature who instilled into her head a repetitive order described as follows: "Come here and say three Ave Marias, come and say three Ave Marias...".

2) - a surprised description given by Lucia, the eldest of the three percipients, when at the "Parochial Enquiry" she spoke of a "very shining lady, about 1 meter and 10 cms in height, seming to be between 12 and 15 years old, wearing a narrow skirt, a jacket and a cloak, all with golden cords, running through them. She came from "above" and vanished-gradually in the inverse direction, made no facial movements, nor did she articulate her lower lips, and moved only her hands from time to time. She had a luminous BALL in hand and she turned her back towards the percipients when she departed"

3) - the authors managed to determine the distance parameters of the so-called "solar phenomenon" of October 13, 1917, from the witnesses positions on the ground. J. Fernandes and F. d' Armada found that they were all within a band of 70 meters wide and running through the Cova da Iria area, center of that spectacular aerial phenomenon, called by the vast multitude of people waiting as the "miracle of the sun".

This band, oriented south-north, contained all the witnesses who reported secondaty effects only experienced during the time of the "solar phenomenon", that is to say at the moment when the
"solar object" descended in a terrifying parabola over the crowd of 60,000 people. The effects felt in that band were: 1. sudden and intense heat; 2. drying of clothing and of the soil; 3. physiological effects or "miraculous cures".

These kind of effects seems consistents, according some researchers, like nuclear physicists James McCampbell and Jean-Pierre Petit (CNRS, France), with a "microwave radiation", also detected in preliminar samples from "crop circles" spots by the biophysics dr. W. Levengood. Others studies, conducted by the Canadian Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineering and the french Toulouse DERMO laboratories found a "hamming or buzzing effect" inside the percipients's heads produced by a microwave radiation between 200and 3000 MHz, and called as
"microwave auditive phenomenon", as well perceived and reported in the 1917 Fatima apparitions scenario as well".

We look for an audacious, serious editor to translate and edit an english version of this work full of NEW information and scientific approach.

Thanks for all the help.

Joaquim Fernandes University Fernando Pessoa Praça Nove de Abril, 349 4249-004 Porto Portugal

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