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Oh god. Will Libertarians ever get anything right?
Total ignorance of human nature.
Total ignorance of political nature.
Just I, Me, Mine.
--J2
> Kris Millegan wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> </A> -Cui Bono?-
>
> from:
> http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.10/jesus_republican.htm
> Click Here: <A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V4.10/jesus_republican.htm">Is
> Jesus a Republican?, by Jim Peron</A>
> -----
> Is Jesus a Republican?
>
> by Jim Peron
What a stupid premise. Jesus could not possibly be a Republican
because he
could not read or write english. Unlike George W. Bush who also has a
powerful
daddy, but CAN read or write english, Jesus would have difficulty
organizing
placard slogans.
The problem is that both of them can't speak english. George W. kinda
speaks
Spanish and Jesus kinda speaks Greek but that is only valuable in
certain
neighborhoods.
> George W. Bush wants to be President of the US, and he expects Jesus to help
> him. While seeking the Republican Party nomination, Bush was recently asked
> what political philosopher had the most effect on his life. He answered:
> “Christ. Because he changed my heart.” Orrin Hatch and Gary Bauer quickly
> followed suit—and suddenly Jesus was considered one of the great political
> philosophers within the Republican Party. Now what’s wrong with this picture?
Makes good sense to me.
> In fact Jesus had very little to say about political philosophy. He tended to
> speak about matters in the realm of personal ethics more than anything else.
What an idiot! It's exactly opposite. Jesus always talked political
philosophy.
" Render unto Caesar..." , " The Kingdom of Heaven ( Revolution ) is
upon us."
> Now, of course, politics is simply an extension of ethics,
More absurdity. Politics is the opposite of ethics. Look at our
system.
Any political system.
> so one can
> rationally deduce a political viewpoint using one’s ethics as the starting
> point. But when we do this with the teachings of Jesus, we find views which
> are more at home in the far left wing of the Democratic Party. In fact the
> socialists, Marxists and radical Greens would love the ethical teachings of
> Christ — and they do.
Of course they do. They all understand the destructive effects of
wealth
and concentration of wealth.
> Fidel Castro, it seems, is quite fond of these quotes from Jesus. He has
> said: “I believe that Karl Marx could have subscribed to the Sermon on the
> Mount.” While the Sermon on the Mount is considered great teaching by most
> Christians, very few actually pay attention to what was said:
>
> “No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the
> other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other,
> Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
This is why J could never be a Republican.
> Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your
> life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what
> ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
> Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor
> gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much
> better than they? Which you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his
> stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the
> field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto
> you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
Jesus was obviously a Green.
> Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to
> morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of
> little faith. Therefore take no thought, saying What shall we eat? or, What
> shall we drink? or Wherewithal shall we be clothed? ...But seek ye first the
> kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added
> unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take
> things of itself.”
This definitely influenced the Hippie movement.
LIBERTARIANS DIS JESUS.
> The Sermon starts out with a condemnation of money: you can’t serve God and
> mammon. Then it goes into a discourse on why you shouldn’t make an effort to
> support yourself, since the great welfare state in the sky will provide all
> your needs. But this is entirely consistent with every other quote attributed
> to Jesus in the New Testament. Jesus never had a kind word regarding wealth
> and the wealthy (see: Matthew 13:33, Mark 4:19, Luke 8:14, Mark 10:21-25,
> Luke 14, and Luke 19). These assaults on wealth are openly endorsed by
> numerous other disciples throughout the New Testament. Wealth is repeatedly
> listed as an impediment to salvation. In fact Jesus, on more than one
> occasion, said that one must abandon wealth in order to be saved.
Definitely NOT a Republican. Nor a Democrat either. But NEVER would HE
be a
Libertarian.
>
> The Great Welfare State in the Sky
>
> In a previous article (http://zolatimes.com/V3.50/pope_capitalist.html)
> entitled "Is the Pope Capitalist?", I showed how Pope John Paul II has openly
> and explicitly embraced a form of socialism. And many people understand that
> such concepts have always dominated Catholic social teachings. But the same
> is true for Protestants as well. Martin Luther, the father of the Protestant
> Reformation, was no friend of capitalism. He said that: “The pursuit of
> material gain beyond personal needs must thus appear as a symptom of lack of
> grace, and since it can apparently only be attained at the expense of others,
> directly reprehensible.”
snip>
Eventually Capitalism and Protestantism nourished each other and grew
together.
Despite Luther. Capitalism grew with Protestant elites.
Yea unto this very day.
snip>
> State Power Without End, Amen
>
> If you read this summary of Calvinist social teachings carefully, you end up
> with an inability to see where State power ends. Dr. Irving Hexham of the
> University of Calgary Department of Religious Studies asked a similar
> question: “The emphasis on the calling of each sovereign sphere of society is
> an attempt to relativize the authority of all human institutions before the
> law of God. In theory this sounds great. The problem comes, however, when one
> wishes to identify the callings of different social spheres and set their
> boundaries. What, in fact, does God’s calling mean in practical terms?” With
> all the talk of spheres and “vocations”, in the end the State is the final
> arbitrator of conflicts of values.
>
> And this is based on a concept of Christian social justice where we find a
> Jesus who always sided with the poor against the rich. And while doctrines
> regarding spheres were intended to limit state power, we shouldn’t ignore
> what Calvinists in South Africa erected. Hexham draws this conclusion about
> Calvinist economics : “Neo-Calvinism rejects capitalism and socialism. It
> sometimes sounds dangerously like fascism.”
snip>
> The Jesus Bandwagon
>
> Protestant Republicans like Bush, Hatch and Bauer may wish to invoke Jesus as
> the most important political philosopher in their lives. But it is wise of
> them to avoid his actual teachings. Nor should they dwell too long on the
> history of the Protestant church either. As in Papal economics and Catholic
> social teachings, the free market is not high on the list for endorsement.
> The teachings of Jesus and the economic views of most Republicans are
> generally in conflict.
You got that right.
> Of course, when the Jesus bandwagon got rolling, Al Gore jumped aboard as
> well. He said that he often asked himself: What would Jesus do? Now with his
> apocalyptic visions of the environment, his radical egalitarianism, and his
> “you are your brother's keeper” welfare state views, Gore may have a bit more
> of a claim on Jesus than does Mr. Bush. It is an unfortunate fact of history
> that every time Christianity has been mixed with politics, economic and
> social freedoms have been the losers.
> -----
He got that right too.
But let's understand one thing here. There is a reason why the great
guardians of justice and mercy are against Capitalism.
Because Capitalism is evil.
Duh!
Joshua2
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