Well i wouldn't be shooting off too many stitch'em-up Sitchens 'SHEMS' there
J2!!!
LOL x ROTFLMAO!!!
A "scholar" & his .... pffffffffffffffft! ... "fans"
LOL!!! x again to -8!!!
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From: "Nurev Ind Research" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] VATICAN THEOLOGIAN AGREES WITH FINDINGS OF SITCHIN???
> This must be from the * one hand washes the other * dept.
> Pretty funny.
>
> Joshua2
> ===========
> v2o wrote:
> >
> > SITCHIN AND VATICAN THEOLOGIAN DISCUSS UFO's, EXTRATERRESTRIALS,
> > ANGELS, CREATION OF MAN
> >
> > Report by Zecharia Sitchin
> > http://www.sitchin.com
> >
> > Dialogue in Bellaria
> >
> > In what must be a historic first, a high official of the Vatican and a
> > Hebrew scholar discussed the issue of
> > Extraterrestrials and the Creation of Man, and though different from
> > each other in upbringing, background,
> > religion and methodology, nevertheless arrived at common conclusions:
> >
> > * Yes, Extraterrestrials can and do exist on other planets
> > * Yes, they can be more advanced than us
> > * Yes, materially, Man could have been fashioned from a
> > pre-existing
> > sentient being.
> >
> > The Participants
> >
> > The high Vatican official was Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a Catholic
> > theologian with impressive credentials:
> > A member of the Curia of the Roman Catholic Church, a Prelate of the
> > Congregation for the Evangelization of
> > Peoples and the Propagation of the Faith, leading exorcist of the
> > Archdiocese of Rome, a member of the
> > Vatican's Beatification Committee, an expert on Demonology and the
> > author of several books. Appointed in
> > the Vatican to deal with the issue of UFO's and Extraterrestrials, he
> > has made in recent years pronouncements
> > indicating a tolerance of the subjects; but he has never before met and
> > had a dialogue with a Hebrew scholar,
> > and gone beyond prescribed formulations to include the touchy issue of
> > the Creation of Man.
> >
> > The Hebrew scholar was me -- Zecharia Sitchin: A researcher of ancient
> > civilizations, a biblical archaeologist,
> > a descendant of Abraham.
> >
> > The Monsignor and I almost met for such a dialogue last December, but it
> > did not come about. This time we were scheduled to meet in Bellaria,
> > Italy, at a conference whose theme was "The Mystery of Human
> > Existence." I arrived there with my wife and a score of fans from the
> > USA, on March 31st,
> > scheduled to address the audience of over a thousand the next day. The
> > Monsignor was nowhere in sight; but he was there the next morning to
> > hear my
> > presentation. "I drove the whole night from Rome to hear you," he
> > said.
> >
> > Sitchin's Presentation
> >
> > My talk, ably translated by my Italian editor Tuvia Fogel, included a
> > slide presentation that added a pictorial
> > dimension to the evidence from ancient times in support of Sumerian
> > texts, on which my eight books based the
> > following conclusions:
> >
> > We are not alone -- not just in the vast universe, but in our own solar
> > system; There is one more planet in our solar system, orbiting beyond
> > Pluto but nearing Earth periodically; Advanced "Extraterrestrials" --
> > the Sumerians called them Anunnaki, the Bible Nefilim -- started to
> > visit our planet some 450,000 years ago; And, some 300,000 years ago,
> > they engaged in genetic engineering to upgrade Earth's hominids and
> > fashion Homo sapiens, the Adam. In that, they acted as Emissaries for
> > the
> > Universal Creator -- God.
> >
> > The Dialogue
> >
> > "We have much to talk about," Msgr. Balducci said to me as he came
> > forward to congratulate me on my presentation; "I have great esteem for
> > your scholarship," he said.
> >
> > We returned to the hotel for lunch. Our table was surrounded in a
> > semi-circle by my American fans, intent on not missing a word of the
> > forthcoming dialogue. In the hours-long session, Msgr. Balducci
> > outlined the positions he was going to state, from a prepared text, in
> > his talk the next day. While my approach was based on physical
> > evidence, his was a purely Roman Catholic theological-philosophical one,
> > seeking the
> > spiritual aspects. Yet, our conclusions converged.
> >
> > Msgr. Balducci's Positions
> >
> > ON UFO's. "There must be something in it." The hundreds and thousands
> > of
> > eyewitness reports leave no room for denying that there is a measure of
> > truth in them, even allowing for optical illusions, atmospheric
> > phenomena and so on. As a Catholic theologian such witnessing cannot be
> > dismissed. "Witnessing is one way of transmitting truth, and in the
> > case of the Christian religion, we are talking about a Divine Revelation
> > in which witnessing is crucial to the credibility of our faith."
> >
> > ON LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS: "That life may exist on other planets is
> > certainly possible... The Bible does not rule out that possibility. On
> > the basis of scripture and on the basis of our knowledge of God's
> > omnipotence, His wisdom being limitless, we must affirm that life on
> > other planets is possible." Moreover, this is not only possible, but
> > also credible and even probable. '"Cardinal Nicolo Cusano (1401-1464)
> > wrote that there is not a
> > single star in the sky about which we can rule out the existence of
> > life, even if different from ours."
> >
> > ON INTELLIGENT EXTRATERRESTRIALS: "When I talk about Extraterrestrials,
> > we
> > must think of beings who are like us -- more probably, beings more
> > advanced than us, in that their nature is an association of a material
> > part and a spiritual part, a body and a soul, although in different
> > proportions than human beings on Earth." Angels are beings who are
> > purely spiritual, devoid of bodies, while we are made up of spirit and
> > matter but still at a low level. "It is entirely credible that in the
> > enormous distance between
> > Angels and humans, there could be found some middle stage, that is
> > beings with a body like ours but more elevated spiritually. If such
> > intelligent beings really exist on other planets, only science will be
> > able to prove; but in spite of what some people think, we would be in a
> > position to reconcile their existence with the Redemption that Christ
> > has brought us."
> >
> > The Anunnaki and the Creation of Man
> >
> > Well then, I asked Msgr. Balducci, does it mean that my presentation was
> > no great revelation to you? We appear to agree, I said, that more
> > advanced extraterrestrials can exist, and I use science to evidence
> > their
> > coming to Earth ...I then quote the Sumerian texts that say that the
> > Anunnaki ("Those who from heaven to Earth came") genetically improved an
> > existing being on Earth to create the being that the Bible calls Adam.
> >
> > My conclusion regarding your presentation, Msgr. Balducci answered, is
> > that more than anything else your whole approach is based on physical
> > evidence, it concerns itself with matter, not with spirit. This is an
> > important distinction, "because if this distinction is made, I can bring
> > up the view of the great theologian,Professor Father Marakoff, who is
> > still alive and is greatly respected by the Church. He formulated the
> > hypothesis that when God created Man and put the soul into him, perhaps
> > what is meant is not that Man was created from mud or lime, but from
> > something pre-existing, even from a sentient being capable of feeling
> > and
> > perception. So the idea of taking a pre-man or hominid and creating
> > someone who is aware of himself is something that Christianity is coming
> > around to.The key is the distinction between the material body and the
> > soul granted by God."
> >
> > From Anunnaki to God
> >
> > Yes, I responded to the Vatican theologian, in my writings I deal with
> > the physical evidence; but already in my first book (The 12th Planet),
> > the very last sentence of the last paragraph raises the question: If the
> > Extraterrestrials "created" us, who created them on their planet?
> >
> > >From this my own thinking and the contents of my subsequent books
> > evolved toward the spiritual or "divine" aspects. The Anunnaki, I have
> > explained, were just emissaries (and that is what the Hebrew word
> > Malachim, translated Angels, means). They thought that it was their
> > decision to come here for selfish reasons and to fashion us because they
> > needed workers; but in truth they only carried out the Almighty God's
> > wishes and plans.
> >
> > If such Extraterrestrials were so involved, Msgr. Balducci said, even by
> > your own interpretation they had to do with Man's physics, body and
> > rationality: but God alone had to do with the Soul!
> >
> > My second book, that deals with Man's aspiration to ascend the heavens,
> > is titled The Stairway to Heaven, I told Msgr, Balducci, "it seems to me
> > that we are ascending the same stairway to heaven, though from different
> > steps," I said.
> >
> > We ended the dialogue as friends, determined to stay in touch and
> > continue.
> >
> > Zecharia Sitchin can be reached by writing to:
> > P.O. Box 577, New York, NY 10185
> >
> > Zecharia's books are available in paperback from
> > Avon Books. Some reprints in hardcover are
> > available from Bear & Co.
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