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  1. Russian News Sources: NATO Covering Up Its
  Losses

  Over 400 Troops, Over 60 Aircraft Lost?

  MOSCOW, Apr. 29 - In a story headlined  "NATO Covering Up Own Losses,"
  the Russian Agency of Political News (Agenstvo Politicheskih Novosti -
  APN) reported on Apr. 29 that NATO had lost over 400 troops, and over 60
  aircraft during its 79-day war with Serbia. The estimates reportedly
  based on Russian government figures, released last month, but were hushed
  up in the West by the New World Order lapdog media.

  The article was written by an experienced military correspondent,
  Vladislav Shurygin, who elaborates on an earlier Russian Defense Ministry
  report, which was first published in the Foreign Military Review and then
  by ITAR-TASS (see the next TiM article by Venik for details).  These are
  the highest figures so far of NATO's human casualties to emerge from the
  post-war post-mortems.

  Shurygin observes that NATO and the Pentagon had lied unabashedly, and
  that they continue to do so.  He notes that it may take years for the
  U.S. government to admit what it really lost in its war on Serbia. He
  says, for example, that NATO even lied regarding the number of combat
  sorties it had flown, let alone its own casualties. Instead of the
  claimed 35 000 flights, the alliance actually flew only about 25 000, he
  says.  By way of a disclaimer, the APN said that Shurygin's piece was the
  "author's personal view" of the subject.

  TiM readers proficient in Russian can check out the APN report for
  themselves by clicking on http://www.apn.ru .

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  TiM Ed.: Incredible as it may seem at a first glance to western audiences
  accustomed to lapping up the soap fed to them by the New World Order "lie
  and deny" news spinners, the above estimates are not far off the
  contemporaneous reports by the Greek media. On Apr. 7, the Athinaiki (The
  Athenian), an Athens daily, said in an article that NATO had already lost
  88 soldiers as of that early date of the war.  In fact, it could be low.

  If NATO had lost 88 troops during the first two weeks of the war, when
  the intensity of fighting was at a lower level, according to NATO, then
  its human casualties over the 11-week conflict might have been over
  1,000, had the same rate of attrition continued.

  Whatever the actual number, it is certainly greater than zero, which is
  what Clinton, NATO and the Pentagon have been alleging.  A steady stream
  of new factual information emanating from the Russian media, mostly based
  on the Russian official military sources (who were in a position to track
  firsthand the air and sea battlefields a year ago - Russia had two ships
  in the Adriatic during the war monitoring the war through electronic
  surveillance), serves to discredit such ludicrous claims by NATO and the
  Clinton administration.

  In fact, it would not surprise us if the Russian government were engaging
  here in a game of political blackmail and brinkmanship with the Clinton
  administration, trying to gain some leverage in negotiations of other,
  bigger issues (such as the Missile Defense Shield).

  Since both Moscow and Washington know that if Russia were to release a
  proof (electronic surveillance recordings, for example) which back up its
  claims about the NATO losses, this would have a devastating effect on
  NATO/NWO.  For, the whole world would then know that a tiny Yugoslav Army
  had whipped the arrogant and omnipotent aggressor, using some fairly
  outdated weaponry, but more than making up for it with cunning and
  bravery of its officers and troops.  Since the Clinton administration
  cannot afford such an embarrassment, especially in an election year,
  chances are they'd be ready to cave in to the Russians when Clinton goes
  to Moscow on June 4.

  The only question that remains unanswered, however, is how did the
  Clinton administration manage to keep so many grieving American and other
  NATO families silent about the losses of their loved ones? Or more
  pointedly, did it bribe them (pay them off) or intimidate them with
  threats or worse?

  2. NATO Losses Revisited (by Venik)

  VIENNA, May 4 � Pseudonym "Venik" should be a familiar term to the
  wartime TiM readers. It was Venik who was the first to systematically
  analyze and report the NATO losses as of last April.  And this TiM source
  been updating that information ever since (just search our Web site by
  that keyword). Here is the latest contribution on the topic of NATO
  losses:

       PHILADELPHIA, Apr. 21 - According to a March 25, 2000, article
       published by the ITAR-TASS news agency, Russian GRU (Main
       Intelligence Directorate) sources report that during the
       Operation "Allied Force" NATO's air forces sustained losses
       considerably higher than is officially acknowledged by NATO
       command. According to GRU information, NATO lost three F-117A
       stealth bombers, and at least 40 other combat planes, and over
       1,000 cruise missiles.

       So far, NATO officials acknowledged losing three combat planes
       (the USAF F-117A on March 27, the USMC AV-8B Harrier on May 1,
       and the F-16CG-40-CF on May 2), two attack helicopters (AH-64
       Apache on April 26 and another Apache on May 5), between 30 and
       32 unmanned reconnaissance vehicles, including at least 16
       American, 7 German, and 5 French UAVs. Interestingly enough,
       NATO acknowledged all of the UAV losses mentioned by Yugoslav
       military officials - 30 - and, perhaps, even more.

       Official NATO reports and statements made by various NATO
       officials indicate that about 10 NATO planes made emergency
       landings. Two F-117As sustained extensive damage (the F-117A
       86-0837 was damaged on April 21 during landing; and another
       F-117A lost a part of its tail section due to a nearby SA-3 SAM
       explosion). An RAF C-130K Hercules transport plane crashed on
       June 11 in Albania. The aircraft was delivering a British SAS
       unit that was trying to beat Russian paratroopers to the Slatina
       base. The US Army OH-58 combat reconnaissance helicopter crashed
       on May 26 in Bosnia.

       According to the information from unofficial Yugoslav military
       sources, NATO's final assessment of its aircraft losses during
       the operation "Allied Force" indicates that some 61 aircraft
       have been destroyed, 53 aircraft were damaged beyond repair or
       it is not cost-effective to repair them, 57 aircraft have
       sustained repairable combat damage. A total of 171 NATO aircraft
       were hit by Yugoslav defenses during the war.

       According to Yugoslav army officials, NATO lost 61 planes, 7
       helicopters, 30 UAVs, and 238 cruise missiles. These numbers
       include only those NATO aircraft that crashed inside Yugoslavia.
       Distribution of aircraft kills among various units and branches
       of the Yugoslav Armed Forces is as follows:

            3rd Army: 34 planes, 5 helicopters, 25 UAVs and 52
            cruise missiles (according to an official statement by
            General Nebojsa Pavkovic, commander of the 3rd Army, on
            June 12, 1999); Navy 3 planes, 3 UAVs and over 5 cruise
            missiles (from an official statement by the FRY Navy
            Commander, Milan Zec, June 10, 1999);

            2nd Army: 24 planes, 2 helicopters, 2 UAVs (reported by
            Major General Spasoje Smiljanic in his interview to
            Politika newspaper at the end of April), 30 cruise
            missiles;

            1st Army: 6 planes, 129 cruise missiles (reported by
            General Ninoslav Krstic in his interview for the
            "Vojska" magazine on May 24, 1999). If you add up these
            numbers, provided by various Yugoslav military
            officials, you will see that the number of planes
            reported to have been shot down is 67, and not 61, as
            the official report by Gen. Dragoljub Ojdanic states.
            And here's why...

       On June 17, 1999, Gen. Spasoje Smiljanic, then commander of
       Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defense (RVand PVO), announced that
       "the Yugoslav Air Force and Air Defence units have downed 36
       airplanes, 42 cruise missiles, nine UAVs and two helicopters."
       It is important to keep in mind, however, that RVand PVO air
       defense units do NOT include low-level army air defenses or
       naval air defenses, such as man-portable SAMs and some AAAs. The
       total number planes shot down by RVand PVO and by various air
       defense units outside of RVand PVO command comes to 61 planes, 7
       helicopters, 30 UAVs and 238 cruise missiles according to Gen.
       Ojdanic. However, these figures only include those NATO aircraft
       that crashed inside Yugoslavia. In some of the earlier reports
       mentioned above Yugoslav military commanders included NATO
       aircraft that crashed outside Yugoslavia.

       Several new pieces of destroyed NATO hardware were added to the
       Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum's exhibit on March 24 to
       commemorate one year since the beginning of NATO's aggression
       against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Currently the
       museum's exhibit includes over 1,500 fragments of NATO's
       military hardware. The museum's curator, Cedomir Janjic,
       announced that more destroyed NATO weapons will be soon added to
       the collection in a new wing of the museum dedicated to the war
       with NATO.

       In an interview to the Associated Press Yugoslavia's Minister
       for Science and Development, Cedomir Mirkovic, said "It is truly
       amazing how many aircraft and drones were downed with the
       relatively modest and primitive equipment..." Mirkovic refutes
       Western claims that Yugoslav air defense downed only two planes.
       "We shall prove we have more," he said, without elaborating.

       In February British press was discussing a sharp shortage of
       operational aircraft experienced by the Royal Air Force. The
       news first appeared in the January 23, 2000, Hundreds of
       Crippled Jets put RAF in Crisis article from The Observer, by
       Antony Barnet. In particular, the article, based on the
       Observer's own investigation, outlines the following problems
       with the RAF:

            "Two out of three of the UK's 186 fleet of Tornado
            bombers are grounded;

            Fewer than 40 per cent of other frontline aircraft,
            such as Harriers and Jaguars, are ready to fly at short
            notice;

            The Ministry of Defence has spent almost �1 billion
            developing a laser-guided bombing system that does not
            work properly;

            There is shortage of nearly 20 per cent of junior
            officer fast jet pilots and the RAF is having a severe
            problem in retaining trained pilots."

       Two out of three British Tornadoes that are grounded comes to a
       rather substantial number of 124 Tornado strike aircraft which
       are not operational. The crisis began developing following the
       Operation "Desert Storm" in Iraq, but it really took off since
       the Operation "Allied Force" against Yugoslavia. As far as I
       know only four NATO Tornado aircraft were shot down during the
       conflict based on media reports. Two Luftwaffe strike aircraft
       were shot down on March 26-27. The other two Tornadoes were shot
       down on April 15 and May 26. It was not reported whether these
       aircraft were German or British.

       The fact is that most of RAF's strike aircraft are out of order
       for a variety of reasons. I do not have enough information to
       draw any definitive conclusions. However, I know enough to say
       that 124 strategically - important strike aircraft are not
       grounded for no reason.

       NATO has sustained significant losses. An even greater number of
       aircraft were damaged not only by ground fire but also by the
       intensity of operations and skipping on the required maintenance
       hours. After talking to several USAF aircraft mechanics, who
       participated in the "Allied Force", I can conclude that NATO
       aircraft were pushed to the limit and way beyond it. This is
       especially true for the USAF aircraft. One USAF aircraft
       mechanic who served at Aviano told me: "Two weeks - three weeks
       tops - and the "Allied Force" would have been over 'cause NATO
       would have run out of working planes."

       In the February 13 article in The Observer, based on first-hand
       information posted by RAF pilots and technicians at an Internet
       discussion group and entitled Pilots Vent Fury at RAF on Web,
       Antony Barnet writes "Pilots currently serving in the Gulf, and
       others recently back from Kosovo, are so angry about defective
       equipment and low morale they are flooding the secret site with
       complaints aimed at senior officers." The "secret" site is the
       PPRuNe message board for military pilots. I've spent several
       days at that site fishing for information until that Sherlock
       from The Observer scared everyone away with his article.

       From what was written by RAF pilots, it can be readily seen that
       there is a great deal of concern about technical capabilities of
       aircraft and even about their basic safety compromised by the
       lack of proper technical service and spare parts. An RAF Captain
       wrote: "The number of sorties lost due to unserviceability is
       way too high. I now find that I have to accept faults to get the
       job done that a few years ago I would not have done ... Although
       I have a few worries about the structural strength of the
       airframe I am convinced that we are going to have a major
       problem due to some esoteric fault... We struggle to get spares,
       some parts have to be manufactured over and over. We use the
       cheapest contractor we can find..."[...]

         Yugoslav Air Force Grounded "Apaches," Not Mechanical Trouble

       According to an ITAR-TASS review of the article published by the
       Foreign Military Review magazine of the Russian Defense
       Ministry, Yugoslav aviation prevented the use of American AH-64
       Apache attack helicopters during the Kosovo conflict. The "NATO
       Losses in the War with Yugoslavia" article, the Foreign Military
       Review writes "... the biggest sensation was the number of
       troops lost by NATO. Not just NATO pilots were killed in
       Yugoslavia, but also search-and-rescue troops that were tasked
       with locating downed pilots. Yugoslav air defenses have shot
       down no less than five NATO helicopters, which (alone) resulted
       in deaths of about 100 troops of the Alliance."

       According to the Foreign Military Review, the reason why
       Pentagon did not use Apaches in Kosovo "...had nothing to do
       with technical problems with the helicopters or insufficient
       training of their flight crews, as was often stated by NATO
       officials. The only reason was the April 26, 1999 attack carried
       out by Yugoslav "Galeb" fighters against "Rinas" airport located
       near Albania's capital of Tirana, where the Apaches were based.
       That day two groups of these light helicopters were destroyed
       and over 10 helicopters were damaged."

       A similar operation was carried out by Yugoslav AF on April 18
       against the airport in Tuzla, Bosnia, used as an emergency
       landing site for NATO aircraft. As the result of this attack
       some 15  NATO aircraft were destroyed on the ground.

       The Foreign Military Review writes: "Despite the fact that
       American aircraft dominated NATO operations, they weren't the
       only aircraft shot down by Yugoslav air defenses. Among the
       destroyed aircraft were five German "Tornadoes," several British
       "Harriers'" two French "Mirages," Belgian, Dutch, and Canadian
       aircraft. On June 7 the USAF lost a B-52 strategic bomber, while
       on May 20 a B-2A "Spirit" was shot down."

       Information regarding the B-52 loss comes as a surprise to me. I
       have seen a brief eyewitness report regarding this incident, but
       it was never mentioned in press or on the NATO losses list on my
       site. Looking at the eyewitness report listing compiled by
       aviation enthusiasts in Yugoslavia, we can find the following
       entry (#381) June 7, between 012 and 040, area between Slankamen
       and Indjija, One large bomber (most probably B-52) was shot
       down. Aircraft exploded after a direct SAM hit. Crew killed."

       Venik, Philadelphia, April 21, 2000, www.aeronautics.ru (the
       previous location at http://way.to/venik  is also working.

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