I have to disagree... Rock4 It's working... the system that is... slow as it may be. You speak of isolated incidences that do not occur on a grandiose scale of the gun purchasing stats. I know of people who can't even get a credit card or purchase a home because of bogus information on their credit reports that even attorneys can't seem to remove or resolve with these reporting agencies... And so what? __IT happens. Computers are only as good as those who program them. IF the information about your friends is wrong, it is a travesty, but not a tragedy. I remain an avid anti-gun control person. I believe that every law abiding citizen who has an average IQ intelligence understands that a gun can kill. But still I believe that the intelligent law abiding citizen is entitled to own and possess a gun in this country. Why? Because responsible, intelligent, law abiding people do not commit murder. And as I was taught in the military, don't aim a gun at anyone unless you aim to kill. The only reason I maintain a gun is to protect my family and my property against the ignorant bastards who haven't got the average IQ of spit and don't seem to have any value of other people's possessions or human life. What good is gun control when only ignorant illiterate criminals have the guns... ??? The idea is to eliminate THEM, if they invade the privacy and rights of law abiding citizens. IF this should ever happen, that the criminals are eliminated, there will be a lot of guns sitting in the closets collecting dust. THIS, is true gun control. eagle 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rock4Life" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Background checks stopped more than 200,000 gun buys lastyear > No, I would not say that it is working....These are basic stats, in > black and white...These would reflect all rejections for no matter what > reason. You could have an unpaid parking ticket and get kicked out and > not be able to purchase if that is what your local authorities decide to > look at. Some years back a girl I know wanted to purchase a handgun and > was rejected, and was told that she was being looked for also, to her > shock. What had happened was that there was another girl with the same > name running around that they were looking for and they(the authorities) > thought it was her trying to buy a gun. The girl then had to take her > DL, birth certificate and some other forms of ID and go to the sheriffs > office to get it all straightened out(massive red tape) before she was > allowed to purchase. Thats one case, and another is just as simple....A > local gun dealer that lives behind me went to sale a gun to someone he > already new or was related to and was told to send that person > immediately to them that he had some business he had to get straight, > that is, he was rejected, and had to see the authorities...story > is....unpaid tickets...so he was refused the right to by a gun like a > criminal just because he had not paid his ticket yet. So I would think > that there are a lot of cases just like these out there but your > anti-gun crowd will cheer on these stats as gun control working at its > best....You have to go a little deeper to get to the root cause of all > these rejections, to see just what it was rejected for before grading > the scores......its an uphill battle my friends....Rock4Life > . <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html <A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om