>From NEW HEAVEN NEW EARTH FORUM by Sherry Stultz [nhneforumfcu] Review of EXOPOLITICS By Alfred Webre http://www.universebooks.com REVIEW & DIALOGUE: Why are we here? Why do we seem to be alone in a hostile universe? How can we prepare for contact with other life forms? Are the answers to these questions are held within the realm of science fiction? If you took the time to stop, feel the Earth spin, and begin to ponder the infinite universe outside of Earth, you may end up laying on your bed and gripping the sides breathlessly, like I have on those occasions where my human comprehension starts to fail me when I think about those things too much. The only thing is--- I really like to think about those questions, and so again and again I come back to this loneliness. Even as little girl, I instinctively knew that there was more life outside of what was on Earth. I used to look up at the night sky and wonder where the others are? No I wasn't sent to some strange New Age elementary school, this was after years of Vacation Bible School and Sunday School. I have never found that all things are unrelated and mutually exclusive, which is why many of the assertions made in EXOPOLITICS intrigued me. Author Alfred Webre makes the assertion that we are a part of highly organized universe, but due to our unfortunate propensity for violence we are in exile from other life forms. He weaves allegorical stories from the Bible to propose an idea that life here on Earth was planned (as per the creation theory), but something went awry in the process. We are not alone in hostile universe, but that we are alone in the hostile part of the universe is what Alfred contends. Not withstanding some rather extraordinary individuals, the bulk of the human species has operated under the 'eat or be eaten philosophy' for longer than any known periods of peacable habitation. It does make you wonder if we are the hostile part of the universe? But like many of us, Alfred can feel the paradigm shifting, and EXOPOLITICS encourages us to open our minds to the prospect of a universal society, as we slowly begin to reject a rather Darwinesque approach to life on Earth. Being a futurist, Alfred wants to plan ahead to a time in the distant future when the exile may be lifted. This is the crux of EXOPOLITICS. Whether you can accept the all the details behind this idea is where your mind will begin to whirl, and all for the best, since stimulating thoughts may be what brings us forward. I liked big picture though, because I do believe that when we conclude there is other life in the universe, it will be a defining moment for all of humanity. ************************************************************************** This dialogue between Sherry Stultz, moderator the of the NHNE Forum for a Common Understanding (www.nhne.com/database/dbforum.html) and Alfred Webre, author of EXOPOLITICS (Universebooks.com) ranges over some of the issues in a study of politics and government in a populated, organized Universe. NHNE Forum (Sherry Stultz): I guess I should mention I have had mixed training in life. I am a trained forest ecologist, also a certified science teacher, who taught astronomy for a few years, so exobiology is a great hobby of mine. My work as a freelance writer is varied, but the recent stuff would center on investigating unusual experiences and what is considered pseudo-science. But bigger than all of that I am an ardent student of human nature and history of human cultures. One of the greatest projects I have ever undertaken has been the Forum for a Common Understanding, which has been a mirror to myself and a great observatory of the human experience. I am explaining this briefly to you so you can appreciate the nature of my questions and also appreciate the fact that some assertions you make I find more than acceptable, but other people would find outrageous. It's all a facet of the human experience, and the perception we each have of our existence. I have not listed all the assertions that I find intriguing or acceptable, as a matter of brevity, but I think you should feel confident of one thing: your assertions, which incorporate a variety of ideologies, old and new, cannot be completely or wholly dismissed because of the 'thinking potential' of this book. What I mean by that is that there are ideas that set bells ringing and the bells will be different for each person. This is my opinion of course, based on my on- going study of human beings. The questions I have listed are indeed quite genuine. I carefully noted my reactions to certain statements as I read and reread the text. I noted what I perceived as noncomplementary ideas or areas where I was called to accept something as law and the law had no origin. I like specifics. It's not necessary for them to follow any well- known socially or scientific dogmas. It's simply that the references were too quick for me. I wanted to know more about them, as you can see from my questions. SHER: Q1. Early on in the book EXOPOLITICS you use a term called the 'minimal interference rule', which rang a bell. I realized the bell was from Star Trek. What is the origin of this term? And how can we be certain that the notable 'lack of interference' by more technologically advanced life forms is based on such a rule that they are required to follow by universal law? ALFRED WEBRE: A1. Actually, in exobiology the term has also been stated as the "Zoo hypothesis", and this term in used now to describe the hypothesis that Universe society is basically watching us as a Zoo, or more accurately a hothouse for the development of intelligent and other planetary species. More broadly, a general Universe hypothesis holds that all life-bearing planets are in fact "grown" under the supervision of Universe society by tremendously advanced beings - beings that we would think of as "Gods". Under this model, at some significant stage, life was implanted on Earth as part of a regular Universe scheme of developing life-bearing planets. The evolution of life forms, etc. is to some extent the product of conscious genetic intervention on the planet. Because of our planetary isolation and our basic perceptual disconnect from Universe society, our human culture thinks that only on Earth are genetics, peace, war, manufacturing, technology, government regulated by law. In fact, the opposite is true. The Universe is highly organized and regulated under advanced models, quanta ahead of human civilization in spiritual, mental and physical evolution. Thus intelligent civilizations are brought forth by highly advanced civilizations, under a regulated Universe scheme. It may appear chaotic to our lowly perception; but that is because Earth is under functional quarantine, and our human perceptual habits are backwards - we see the Universe as empty of life; not as teeming with intelligent life. SHER: Q2. Another term was mentioned called 'Natural Law.' Again, the term law implies a scientific proof, (which is often later disproved or amended), a social norm that is accepted by a society and held to the highest standard, or a axiom generated by a religious ideology usually derived from a god or prophet. I am familiar with the Natural Law Party and the basic tenets of this political group. How does Natural Law differ from Universal Law, which is also mentioned? Are these laws based on tenets from the Grand Unified Theory of Physics? The String Theory? Religious dogmas? The Golden Mean and the Golden Rule? Or an amalgamation of many? ALFRED WEBRE: WOW You do know your philosophy, Sher! That's great, because one of the perspectives of EXOPOLITICS is that humanity already may have much of the basic models and avenues of thought that it needs. If you remember, human religion was its original science, and the great human sacred texts may have many models that can be useful in our understanding the next level of Universe reality. Sacred texts operate in a different way from the Western "scientific method". The latter is a process of material trial and error under protocol. The sacred texts, if valid, may be delivering knowledge by revelation, from a higher source of knowledge and information in the Universe. That is a concept that makes the scientific method very uncomfortable. In fact, the two - science and sacred knowledge - should go together. Both describe the same unitary, multi-dimensional Universe. What we call natural law, or transcendental principles operating in human social law, manifest in such concepts as "justice" "equity" "morality" "democracy" "tyranny". Universal law is the Universe version of human natural law. Another way of seeing this is the principle "As above, so below". In fact, our Earthly forms of government are derived from Universal values and governmental forms, from the structure of the United Nations, to the structure of the lowest Traffic Court. That humanity is alienated from these political and governmental structures is a measure of the underlying alienation of Earth from the original source of government, Universe society. SHER: Q3. The assertion was made that the human race has to face more evil and ignorance than other comparable civilizations elsewhere in the universe due to the rebellious nature of the original inhabitants. Here we run into something I have thought about for a long long time. Is evil bad? Is destruction bad? Is it natural? And is more or less of evil a punishment or a godsend? I think it's fair here to ask if evil isn't a necessary part of spiritual development? How can a soul show empathy to evil if that soul has never generated an evil act? ALFRED WEBRE: You really have deep questions, Sher! In the Universe sense, evil is separation from Source, from the basis of all Reality, from what we in Englishworld call God. In the fullest description, God in one of its manifestations actually lives in the Universe, at its center. You and I might have dinner with God, as we evolve over aeons into Gods ourselves. God enjoys its Creation and its creatures, and designs them "as gods in the making". That is why intelligent civilizations create and maintain younger life-bearing planets like Earth - thus are we given the actual experience of being God-like. Now, having said that, Earth is a planet that has been particularly impacted by Evil. One version of the "Zoo hypothesis" is that our planet suffered a rebellion against the Universe society in the distant past, and has been in quarantine ever since. Fragments of this rebellion-memory may survive as the Adam and Eve myth in the Old Testament, for example. Adam and Eve are the Universe extraterrestrial representatives; the "Devil" is the political lieutenant who rebelled; the "Garden of Eden" is Earth as it was under Universe society. Because of evil, we have been in quarantine as a planet where war, disease, poverty, ignorance and confusion have ruled. We are a planet of death, murder, infant mortality and deception. Even now, our governments are attempting to export nuclear weapons into space, violating Universe society rules once again. A secret government plots to keep the human population ignorant of its Universe destiny. You tell me: Would it have been better had Earth followed its destiny without rebellion? What purpose does this predatory government serve now on Earth? SHER: Q4. I thought it was interesting that assertions of reincarnation were made in your text. You feel there are clues in ancient doctrine that will help us see the original intent of lives here? Reincarnation was supposedly removed from the Bible because the church felt that if people knew they had more chances they would not be as 'good' in this life. How do you see reincarnation as a part of the Universal Law that you make reference to? ALFRED WEBRE; Parapsychologist Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia has developed many monographs of cases suggestive of reincarnation. A Swedish parapsychologist has even measured the human soul - it weighs about two ounces! I myself have not come across a model that I feel definitely describes the dynamics of the human soul, spirit, mind, aura, body in a singular life; between lives; the dynamics of lives in different dimensions ("Heaven"); the true spiritual evolutionary course of a soul. I am certain of the human soul as a spiritual entity that evolves through Universe experiences, including incarnations on Earth. Our Earthly incarnations, one version tells us, can be extremely important to our Universe evolution, because we must live here in a quarantined planet, disconnected from higher Universe circuits, living as one source says "on hope alone." SHER: Q5. This statement is tough to stand without potshots from a multitude of directions: "Planets are grown like gardens.=A0 Much of life development on planet Earth is the product of conscious intervention by advanced, sophisticated techniques of the life-technologists of Universe society.=A0 This process takes multiple millions, billions of years. As our human science discovers more of the scientific past of our planet, they are actually discovering the work products of highly advanced agents within our Universe." No. 1 The references to Universal and Natural Law in the text to me imply that there are some fundamental physical laws of the universe that allow for the creation process to take place without subjectivity. Here you assert there is a great deal of subjectivity to this process. No. 2 The idea that humans were somehow genetically introduced to this planet is a curious hypothesis that bears analysis due to the recent discovery that Cro-magnons were not our direct ancestors and were somehow out-competed by modern day humans, for which we have yet to find a direct genetic link to any other creatures. But the assertion that all life has been somehow masterminded is difficult to accept. There is scientific evidence for example, that the dinosaurs died within a period of millennia after a catastrophic meteor struck the Earth around the Yucatan Peninsula. I think what's tough to contend with are these seemingly two different inferences. One of Universal Law and the other of advanced agents within our universe. I would need some clarification on these two as they seem not complementary. ALFRED WEBRE: Once again, Sher, your questions are very gentle, and very acute. I'll try and elucidate some principles here, though the easiest answer to your question might be, "OK We don't know yet how creation happens; which is why we need an exopolitical integration with Universe society!" In the USA, the cartoon-like projection of Universe creation is "Creationism" at one end of the spectrum and "Evolution" at the other. Let's step out of that cartoon. A more accurate model of Universe creation might be: Universe creation is the product of an intelligently-sourced process, with intelligent interventions in a natural evolutionary context. The Universe is a multi-dimensional living teleological entity, created by a Source, whose goals include the creation and development of Source-Souls, in a decentralized fashion. In carrying out this goal, Source intelligence has delegated the creation of material dimensions of the Universe such as the one Earth knows as the Universe as a platform for creating a planetary system of intelligent life creation as an experiential school for Source-Souls. Get my drift? That is something like what the dimensional/ET guardians of planet Earth understand as cosmology. These are the Beings who have monitored this planet from its inception, and developed and carried out its life-experiment plan. These are the Beings who monitor the state of our quarantine and our potential for reintegration with Universe society. Now, in the perception of such Beings, cosmos, chance, accident, meaning exist at levels that we humans barely even know. Thus, the K2 Event extincting the dinosaurs: 1. Was K2 pure chance? 2. Did the Life experimenters perceive or guide it through Time Travel Technology? 3. From a Life experimenter perspective, was K2 an intentional eight-ball, teleguiding the dinosaurs to extinction because an evolutionary cul-de-sac has been reached? Some literature says that K2 was designed by mammal-ETs in order to defeat the reptile-based ETs hegemony. Psychic Edgar Cayce says that we, the community of human souls, were the dinosaurs. Now we are up to human on the evolutionary scale. Is that an improvement? Yes. These is no contradiction between advanced, intelligent "God- beings" and Universal law. Universal law embodies principles within which God-beings act. What is the enforcer of Universal law? Well on Earth, some disciplines call it Karma. Break the Law, Suffer Karma. Earth has been in its own Karma, quarantined and isolated from the rest of the Universe. It is time to become exopolitically aware. Mobilized for a decade of education, community politics on the Extraterrestrial Initiative, so that we humans can reintegrate ourselves with Universe society. 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