FWIW, part of an extremely challenging thread from the "July 30 in Philly" list regarding violence, nonviolence, the role of the police, and other related matters... And, of course, verb. sap.: caveat lector. Truth is always in the mind of the beholder. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Stromer-Galley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "July 30 in Philly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [July30] Philadelphia Police Action > July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com > > I want to know how exactly 1,000 people running around bashing police cars, > obstracting traffic on the street, and general disruption is "direct action" > to destroy capitalism? > > Capitalism isn't what's wrong with this country or this planet. It's > selfishness. We humans cannot think beyond our own here and now: our things > and pleasures. If you change human nature, then you change what's wrong > with our system. You tell me you'd want to give up your cars, your cell > phones, your stereo systems, for what, an agrarian lifestyle? What the hell > is the alternative to what you want to destroy? > > After you all leave to go back to your cities in towns in other states, just > know that people who live and work in this city, like me, have to clean up > and pay for your fun and your vandalism. > > As well, this mythical police state you talk about doesn't get destroyed > because a couple of suburban drop-outs decide to throw paint on a police > car. > > Pissed, > ~Jen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Inquirer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "July 30 in Philly" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 4:54 PM > Subject: Re: [July30] Philadelphia Police Action > > > > July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com > > > > Fucking cop lover! A cop in shorts and a polo shirt is the same as one > > in Ninja riot gear! > > > > Get your head out of your ass, wake up and smell the coffee. The cops > > didn't attack your rally because they knew that it would be ineffective. > > Since when do you have to get a permit to exercise your freedom of > > speech on the streets? > > > > Permitted rallies are for shitty activists who have no idea how much > > they are disempowering the people. Social change never originates from > > protest activities that have the consent of the police. Social change > > happens when we take direct action, in our work, our comunities, and our > > streets. Direct action ranges from setting up a pirate radio station to > > take back the airwaves to taking over abandoned housing to allow a > > homeless person to have a roof over their head. Direct action happens > > when we organize on the job and refuse to do work until our conditions > > are met. Direct action means communities deciding things and not the > > government. Direct action means working together to solve our problems > > and not asking city hall or the government to take care of us. Direct > > action means resisting capitalism through any means necessary, so that > > our grandchildren will have a healthy planet to live on which doesn't > > have bosses. Sometimes this requires a few broken windows or some > > newspaper boxes in the streets. Sometimes this means that we fight back > > against police brutality. > > > > Direct action gets the goods. Protests that have police sanction are > > pointless. > > > > I'm sure Mayor Street will give you a job as official Protest > > Coordinator. > > > > Chuck0 > > > > Harold Rosenthal wrote: > > > > > > July 30 in Philly - www.unity2000.com > > > > > > August 3, 2000 > > > Mayor John Street: > > > > > > I speak as one who was on the streets of Chicago in 1968 and watched > > > the blitzkrieg by police who unmercifully attacked protesters and the > > > press. > > > > > > I was an organizer of Sunday's Unity 2000 March and Rally. Its 25,000 > > > members will be the largest assembly exercising freedom of speech > > > occurring during this week including and in contrast to the > > > prescripted TV incommercial of the Republican Convention. > > > > > > Our police added to my pride as a Philadelphian. In contrast to my > > > facing soldiers with fixed bayonets, jeeps pushing walls of barbed > > > wire at us, beatings by truncheon wielding police and tear gas, as in > > > Chicago, Philadelphia police, by wearing short pants, sleeveless > > > shirts and riding bicycles, seemed non threatening and non > > > confrontational. When I found glitches in the service the police were > > > to provide, as soon as I brought it to the attention of Commissioner > > > Timoney or Captain Fisher, it was corrected. > > > > > > I do not agree with every action of our police. The raids on buildings > > > housing work spaces and offices of organizations exercising their > > > rights of assembly and free speech, besmirch what otherwise has been > > > responsible police activity. Arresting 70 people, some of whom may had > > > been making puppets; holding in prison for days, individuals who are > > > charged with misdemeanors, and placing exorbitant bail for the purpose > > > of not allowing the exercise of constitutional rights because it might > > > interfere with Republican high rollers' restaurant excursions, smacks > > > of fascism. > > > > > > Mayor Street, follow through with the fine police plan which I am sure > > > you participated in forming. Do not destroy what you started. See that > > > bail for the individuals arrested in relation to the protests be set > > > at normal limits and have these people released immediately. In your > > > days of confrontational activity I would have fought for those same > > > rights for you. > > > > > > ---=Hal Rosenthal > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > << Chuck0 >> > > > > This was the year *everything* changed. > > -- Commander Ivanova, 2261 > > > > Mid-Atlantic Infoshop -> http://www.infoshop.org/ > > Alternative Press Review -> http://www.altpr.org/ > > Practical Anarchy Online -> http://www.practicalanarchy.org/ > > > > Homepage -> http://flag.blackened.net/chuck0/home/ > > > > "A society is a healthy society only to the degree > > that it exhibits anarchistic traits." > > - Jens Bjørneboe > > > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! 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