flw wrote:
>
> flw wrote:
> >
> > >What a gigantic moron you are Cliff if your understanding of the NWO
> > >leads you to believe that William F. Buckley is a communist.
> > >You don't have a clue pal.
> > >Joshua2
> >
> > It is childish to think there is any difference between the Corporate
> > Capitalist Elite and the Party Elite.
> > flw
>
> J2 writes in part:
> "There is a huge difference. The difference is in the systems the elites
> use to get power and wealth. Buckley is a Capitalist elitist. Communism is
> his nemesis. Stalin was a Communist elitist. Capitalism was his nemesis.
> Their allegiance to their systems is due to the fact that they are able to extract
> power and wealth through the systems they operate in."
>
> "What's the same, is their elitism."
>
> You celebrate form over substance.
>
> The Captalist / Socialist goal is political and financial control through
> manipulation and expansion of the police power of the State.
>
> There are merely superficial differences regarding the means to
> this ultimate end.
>
> The only difference between a Rockefeller, Hitler, or Stalin is that the tyranny
> and meglomania is more transparent in the latter two.
>
> Picking sides between "capitalism" and "socialism" is like deciding what side
> of the road you are marching in a two column army...the same army marching
> in the same direction.
>
> Only dupes and foolish romantics fail to understand this.
> flw
And what kind of people think they will do away with the State?
Internationalists like the NWO are one, but they want to replace it with a
one world State. Libertarians are another, but they are irrelevent. Anarchists
are another, but they are unrealistic.
Who is the fool and romantic? Show me where in history social organization gets
smaller and goes backwards voluntarily.
The State is not the problem. Elites are the problem. Today, Capitalist Elites
are the biggest problem. Either they control the State, or we control the State.
The Constitution says that we get to control the State.
We've been through this before flw. We agree on many things. You persist in
the illusion that the State will go away. It will not. But I always had the
feeling that you avoid the issue of Capitalism. So let me ask you straight up.
Is it good. Or is it bad.
J2
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