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In a message dated 9/22/00 11:51:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<< > Why do you imagine that Ted Nugent is a right-winger?  He's a hippie and
 > hippie type people are as about as left wing as you can be.  But some
lefties
 > can see that Constitutional rights are more important than welfare for the
 > rich.

 It follows that you'd also pigeon-hole 'our beleaguered Kris'
 as being "about as left wing as you can be" since he's one of
 those "hippie type people" as well:

     http://www.cia-drugs.com/symposium/grafx/2kris.jpg
     Kris' mug shot for the CIA-Drugs Symposium page

 (Even looks like he's sporting a ceramic Amanita muscaria
 on the background bookshelf; pretty hip entheogenic touch,
 IMHO.) And, unless I'm mistaken, Kris styles himself as a
 "long-hair hippie" a couple times in his lecture.

 Yet political notions like 'left' and 'right', 'conservative'
 and 'liberal', 'tweedle dee' and 'tweedle dumb' are mostly
 irrelevant distractions used by the few to divide and loot
 the many. Political parties are often picked in the same
 manner one picks a favorite professional sport team -- and
 once they are chosen, it's social custom to become a "fan"
 or "true believer" and to blindly follow that choice through
 "thick and thin", "good and bad", year after year, for the
 rest of one's life. [Trying to change another's political
 beliefs by arguing facts and stats is usually about as
 futile as trying to change another's favorite sport team
 by arguing facts and stats; or to change another's faith
 through logic.]

 And simply because one lives in Dallas does not necessarily
 mean they are a Cowboys fan (aka, ass wipe, scum of the earth);
 or if they have long hair and sometimes enjoy a little herb,
 make them a Jane Fonda clone 'or whatnot'. If Kris is a hippie,
 using your fallacy he's "about as left wing as you can be", how
 would you explain the half-meg or so of so-called 'right-wing'
 Laissez Faire City Times articles he posted to the list/archive?
 (J. Orlin Grabbe link perhaps? Who knows?)
  >>

Sorry to take so long to respond to this.  When you're right you're right.  I
suppose many of us are burdened with prejudices and stupid thinking from
time-to-time.  My problem with the hippie genere goes back about thirty years
when I saw my friends coming back from Nam missing limbs, sitting in
wheelchairs, or coming home in a box.  I have still not quite overcome this
prejudice and wrong thinking, I'm working on it, but it gets the best of me
at times.

     I didn't mean to point at Kris for being a long-hair; he's probably the
person who should be most respected on this list since he is actually trying
to do something about the situation in this country by exposing the CIA's
involvement with drugs.  Who knows, if the controlled media picks up on this
it might make a very big difference, maybe it might make people start
thinking about their country and their place in it ... they might even demand
that their government be put in it's proper place and give up one sports
event per week to keep tabs on their government.  I see more and more people
not trusting the government blindly.  I also hear from many people that they
no longer trust the nightly news and watch it only to see what sort of crap
they are trying to put over now.

     If we could all get over our prejudices with each other we might finally
be able to work together to make a real change, but I'm not holding my breath
...  When people find I was in the military I know they harbor certain
feelings about me - baby killer etc. and probably worry that I'll just "go
off" one day.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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