-Caveat Lector-
dear ole
i strongly recommend you read "the illuminatus trilogy" by r.a. wilson
before icke does any more damage to your perceptions.
love
craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 10:19 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Dear June,
>
> No, occultisme is not the same as satanisme. But the ruling circles of
this planet are occult and satanic as documented by David Icke in "The
Biggest Secret." I strongly recommend you read that book. It will answer
your many questions much better than I can do.
>
> But I will mention, that satanisme as mentioned here, includes black mass
at midnight with human sacrifice.
>
> Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 12:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess
Diana
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > From: "Ole Gerstrøm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Satanic Symbolism Surrounding the Death of Princess Diana
> >
> > And what, pray tell, is 'satanic' about any of the supposed symbols?
> >
> > >The city of Paris was founded in the sixth century AD by
> > >the Sicambrian Franks, an aryan race of middle-eastern
> > >extraction. They were keen followers of occult pracices,
> >
> > If true, what exactly in their practice do you construe as 'satanic'?
> >
> > Or are you implying you equate ANYTHING labeled 'occult' as the
equivalent of 'satanic'?
> >
> > If so, you may be surprised to know that the term 'occult' is used every
day in hospitals and medical
> > facilities around the world.
> >
> > So are you going to tell us that every hospital, and that every doctor
and nurse, is 'satanic'?
> >
> >
> > >and ritual and ceremonial magic was integral to their daily life.
> >
> > And so? That doesn't mean they were satanists.
> >
> >
> > >The central religious deity the Franks worshipped was the
> > >Moon Goddess known to the Romans as Diana, (aka Artemis,
> > >Isis, and others).
> >
> > And what is 'satanic' regarding any of the above?
> >
> >
> > >The Franks built an underground chamber for the worship of
> > >Diana outside the Isle-de-la-Cite. Sacrifices to the Moon
> > >Goddess were made here,
> >
> > If true, then they were Dianic, not Satanic...
> >
> >
> > >Allegedly a "symbol of Liberty", and a memorial to French
> > >servicemen who died in the Second World War, the monument
> > >consists of a torch over a black five-pointed star. Those
> > >familiar with the occult may be aware that this is not a
> > >symbol much associated with liberty.
> >
> > Perhaps not in the strictest sense...but it is definitely NOT
'satanic'...unless you are going to tell us the
> > fifty stars on the U.S. flag are also 'satanic'...
> >
> > The 5-pointed pentagram IS utilized by non-satanic pagans of various
flavors when working a 'magic
> > circle'...it is a symbol of power and of protection from negative and
evil influences...
> >
> > Satanists -- who are nothing more than Roman Catholics turning their
religion inside out and upside down --
> > usurped the symbol, utilizing a reversed pentagram as a sign to welcome
negative and evil forces...
> >
> > But just as the cross has been in use long before Christianity usurped
it, just as the swastika was in long
> > use before the German National Socialists adopted a reversed swastika as
their national symbol, so too with
> > the symbol of a 5-pointed star long antiquates the modern use by modern
satanists...
> >
> >
> > >The Moon Goddess is frequently said to be as female energy form
> >
> > And the female energy form equates to 'satanism'....how?
> >
> >
> > >The latter, Hecate, the Queen of the Underworld, is very heavily
> > >associated with occult practices and ritual sacrifice.
> >
> > True. But it has naught to do with satanism. Hecate predates satanism
by centuries.
> >
> >
> > >"Hecate's Day" is August 13th,
> >
> > Your source for this is....?
> >
> >
> > >but Satanic rituals, (black as opposed to white magic), to
> > >Hecate are better carried out on the 31st, reversal of numerals
> > >popular in Satanism.
> >
> > And again, your source for this is...?
> >
> >
> > >The underlying contention being that there exists a Satanic
> > >group located at the extreme apex of our society, practising
> > >ritual magic.
> >
> > We're still waiting for any proof that any of this, even if true, has
aught to do with satanism.
> >
> > All the practices you mention, except human sacrafice, are common
practices of any number of pagan and wiccan
> > groups...so are you claiming that these groups are the same as
satanists?
> >
> >
> > June
> >
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