-Caveat Lector- .............................................................. >From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Cyberdude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "roundtable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Military Ballot Mystery Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 2:52 AM ELECTION 2000, Day 11 Mystery, intrigue surround military ballots Today's Florida deadline raises questions about absentee irregularities ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- -- By Jon E. Dougherty © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Already parents are saving newspaper clippings and writing reports to file away for grandchildren in an effort to accurately recall and document for them what is shaping up to be "the year the courts chose our president." Many chapters have yet to be written, however, because the saga is ongoing. Even now -- ten days after the Nov. 7 election -- America still does not have a new president. Recounts in Florida, lawsuits, petitions for legal opinions and threats of new litigation continue to be exchanged between the campaigns of Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Al Gore. As long as the campaigns remain so bitterly divided, so too do the American people, as charges of voter fraud, improper judicial rulings and partisanship dominate the media coverage and the words spoken -- or shouted -- between supporters of both candidates. Behind the headlines and away from the cameras, however, the Election Day 2000 drama is still being played out, often just one story at a time. Military may sway election Florida, with its 25 electoral votes, will almost certainly decide the election. By late yesterday, Bush was still leading the vice president by a slim, albeit incomplete, margin of 300 votes. As both campaigns wage a battle in court over ballots already cast, officials in the Florida secretary of state's election office, the Republican and Democratic parties, as well as much of the nation, now wait to see the results of the absentee ballot vote. Particularly crucial to the Bush effort, analysts say, are votes coming in from overseas and domestically deployed military personnel. In 1996, GOP presidential candidate and former Sen. Bob Dole managed to garner the lion's share of the 2,300 overseas military ballots. The Texas governor is expecting that most of the military vote will come to him this time. But, as WorldNetDaily reported even before the election, dozens -- and perhaps thousands -- of military members have complained that they either never received requested absentee ballots or those ballots were delayed -- sent by slower fourth-class mail instead of first-class mail -- or have been lost after the service members sent them back in. One particular case epitomizes the anguish, frustration, intrigue and, in some military circles, mistrust of the way military absentee ballots have been handled in this election. Early this week, WorldNetDaily was contacted by a woman reader whose friend has a son aboard the USS Hayler -- a destroyer that arrived at its home port of Norfolk, Va., on Tuesday. According to her report, the sailor said "nobody aboard" had been given an opportunity to cast an absentee ballot this year, including him. The reader said the sailor had his mother contact the local voting registration board to check on his absentee ballot. When she did, the reader said, the voting registrar told the sailor's mother that they had received her son's ballot in September, even though the sailor adamantly insisted he had never received a ballot and had never cast a vote. WorldNetDaily contacted the Navy about the report, and Cmdr. Greg Smith, a Navy public relations spokesman, said he contacted the ship's executive officer about the matter. Smith said the Hayler's "XO" denied that sailors weren't given the opportunity to cast absentee ballots. "The XO said no" to the report, Smith said. "In fact, he said every sailor that wanted to vote got a chance to vote [and] all ballots were mailed in 10 days prior to the election being concluded." Some even requested write-in ballots, Special Form 186, Smith said. After Smith's denial, WND recontacted the woman reader to relay the information. She said she had since been in contact with the sailor's mother, who said both he and several others were prepared to talk to WorldNetDaily anonymously to personally confirm that they had not had a chance to cast ballots. The next day, however, the woman reader contacted WND and said that no one onboard the Hayler would be calling. "Somebody must have 'talked to' those sailors, because now big-time paranoia has taken over," the reader said. Indeed, the day after WND contacted the Navy about the initial report, none of the sailors was prepared to speak to WND any longer, and the mother of the sailor who reported the discrepancy even asked the woman reader to "lie" about the previous information she had given her, "to keep [her son] from being discovered." Vote intentionally suppressed? Others in the military continue to tell their absentee ballot stories, though most are not nearly so cryptic. A Marine officer who is aboard the USS Tarawa -- the assault ship mentioned in a previous WND report as having mail left aboard until earlier this week -- said he also has not received a ballot. Worse, after taking an informal "poll" in his sector, he found that 13 others had sent in ballot requests but only six had received them. "But I believe their ballots never left the ship in time to make it to the election," the sailor said in an e-mail message. "The other seven never received their ballots." Navy officials have told WorldNetDaily that in extreme circumstances, personnel could request Special Form 186 -- a write-in ballot used specifically for military voting purposes. However, the Tarawa sailor said though he "heard about the write-in ballot about a week before the election ... I never saw a write-in ballot here," adding that "it's not like that information was often repeated over here." He went on to say that "mail on the Tarawa is atrocious," and that the ship goes "several days without receiving mail, even in relatively 'friendly' areas." When he wrote his message Nov. 11, he said it had been "about 12 days since we got mail, and we still have two more days before we get more, which isn't definite." Navy officials have said the Tarawa was among vessels assigned emergency duty to assist the stricken USS Cole following the terrorist attack that left the ship crippled and 17 sailors dead. The Marine officer acknowledged the situation, saying he understood "we have very few friends in our region of the world." But critics have said the Cole attack should not have made much difference by Election Day -- Nov. 7 -- because the destroyer was bombed three weeks earlier, on Oct. 12. A Navy spokesman yesterday told WorldNetDaily that "about a half-dozen absentee ballots" were contained in mailbags picked up from the Tarawa on Monday. The spokesman added that the mail was then flown to Bahrain and, "as far as I know, flown out to the United States on Tuesday." Because of the increasing number of ballots that either did not make it to military personnel in time, were not flown back to the U.S. on time or were never sent at all, some critics have suggested a plot to suppress the military vote because it is historically conservative-leaning. Sam Wright, a lawyer in Washington, D.C., who has researched military absentee ballot issues and problems for two decades, said he didn't think the ballots were being intentionally suppressed, but rather that the problem lies in "attempting to get the military to vote in the 21st century the same way everyone voted in the 19th century." Wright, who is also a captain in the naval reserve, said that as far back as 1952, President Harry S. Truman complained about an outdated military absentee ballot system. However, Wright said, "it is curious that in the 1992 election -- when Republicans were in charge -- we didn't seem to have problems like this, and there was a big effort made to encourage and facilitate voting by the military." In one irony, Wright said, a Sept. 1992 Washington Post article "criticized the Department of Defense and the Federal Voting Assistance Program, suggesting that it was just a plot to get George Bush, the elder, re-elected." Reduced number of ballots? On top of the apparent delivery problems surrounding military balloting, other evidence suggests that perhaps the long-awaited absentee ballots from personnel overseas may not show up in Florida in the numbers suggested. Published reports said the number of ballots received during the 1996 election numbered about 2,300. According to officials with the U.S. Postal Service, however, so far in Florida, the number processed since the election doesn't come close. According to Enola Rice, a spokeswoman for the USPS, from Nov. 8 to Nov. 15, only 581 overseas military absentee ballots have been delivered through Florida. Rice said she could not speak to the numbers of ballots heading to Florida that reached the U.S. via San Francisco or New York City. USPS officials promised to check those figures, but did not contact WND with them. Monica Hand, a public relations spokeswoman for the USPS, told WorldNetDaily that all military mail coming from the Mideast -- where the Tarawa is stationed -- goes through New York. As for whether the Tarawa and other Mideast ballots could make it to appropriate county election officials in Florida and elsewhere on time to be counted today, Hand said all the mail first would have to be separated before being sent on its way. "All military mail is [sorted in] with regular first-class mail," Hand said, suggesting that once it was received and processed, it would be immediately sent. The current figure of 581 Florida absentee ballots from military personnel jibes with an earlier figure reported Wednesday by the Village Voice. According to that report, by late Tuesday, postal officials in Florida said only 447 military ballots had been received. "At that rate," the Village Voice said -- quoting a Washington Post analysis -- "the amount of military ballots [by today's deadline] would end up at an underwhelming 750 -- a far cry from the originally projected 2,300. WorldNetDaily tried unsuccessfully throughout the day yesterday to contact Florida secretary of state election officials to find out how many military ballots had already been counted. Also, WND has tried repeatedly to solicit comments about the military ballot problem from the Bush campaign without success. Broken system Regardless of whether Clinton administration officials purposely directed postal workers to delay military ballots, whether Clinton operatives in the Pentagon are trying to suppress vote counts for Bush as some believe, or whether military balloting is simply antiquated, Sam Wright says it needs to be fixed. "I've been researching this problem and trying to work to get it fixed for 20 years," he said. "We've made some improvements in the states since then, but there is so much more to be done." He said because military personnel have to rely solely on civilian and military mail systems, "it simply takes weeks to get a turnaround." Wright said he liked the idea of a pilot program instituted by the Pentagon and four states earlier this year. In that program, about 50 personnel voted electronically using encrypted e-mail software. Critics say that is an option, but electronic systems -- while faster -- can also break down. And, if this year's voting problems eventually are proven to involve foul play, Americans probably won't want a potentially corrupt administration in charge of counting all the ballots in a single -- potentially hostile -- voting bloc. ***** Military Didn't Get Ballots, Plan Class-Action Suit David M. Bresnahan Thursday, Nov. 16, 2000 SAN ANTONIO, Texas - Attorneys for disenfranchised military personnel plan to ask a judge to either let them vote late or allow them to refuse to pay taxes for the next four years. Large numbers of military personnel have complained that they did not receive absentee ballots in time to vote, and now they are taking action in court. "What we would like to do is ask for injunctive relief and ask for these people to have their ballots flown to them immediately and allow them to vote and be counted in this election, regardless of what state they're in," attorney Philip E. Jones told NewsMax.com in a phone interview. "It's not a principle of Democrat or Republican. It's the principle of the right to vote. "In the alternative, if the judge doesn't allow that, we're going to ask for injunctive relief in the form of allowing these people not to have to pay their taxes for four years because they've been disenfranchised from the political system by denying them their right to vote for the next four years. That's taxation without representation," said Jones. Jones said he would file the class action suit on Monday, initiated by three members of the military serving in Japan. Two are from Florida and one is from Oklahoma. He is inviting other members of the military to join in the suit, which he is handling without cost to participants. He said he was eager to document as many cases as possible of members of the military who were denied their right to vote. "It is our position that denial of the right to vote constitutes not only a violation of one's fundamental constitutional rights, but taxation without representation," Jones explained. "We're getting in reports and allegations of widespread cases of this," said Jones. Florida Servicemen Were Shipped Out Before Election He is investigating complaints that a large number of military were suddenly, and without advance warning, sent on a training mission the day before the election. The large contingent was stationed in Florida and did not request absentee ballots because they were supposed to be in Florida on Election Day. The sudden orders prevented them from voting. "Of course, that can probably be explained off as 'needs of the Army, or Air Force,' or whatever the case may be, for training purposes. But it certainly looks suspicious," said Jones. He said many other complaints by servicemen and servicewomen were being received. Parents are also sending in reports of requesting absentee ballots for a son or daughter in uniform and the ballots not being received. Jones is asking these people to complete a sworn affidavit and fax it to his office as soon as possible. Was there an organized effort to prevent the military from voting? "It certainly seems like there's been a lot of service members who did not get their ballots worldwide who requested them," said Jones. The case will be filed in federal court on Monday, and Jones is calling for military around the world to notify him if they have been prevented from voting so he can demonstrate to the court the full extent of the problem. There is no expense for members of the military to participate in the legal action because Jones is doing the work pro bono through Campbell & Jones, Attorneys at Law, San Antonio. "We need all parties to this suit to fax us a notarized statement stating they applied for their ballot through the appropriate channel and did not receive the ballot in time to vote, or did not receive it at all. "If any parties saved a certified receipt showing when they requested their ballot, it will be very helpful. Also, if there are any military orderly room records annotating service members' requests for ballots, we could use copies of those, or sworn affidavits from the appropriate supervisor," Jones explained. Affidavits may be faxed to Jones' office at (210) 227-4229, 24 hours a day. Jones can be reached at (210) 224-1923. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * David M. Bresnahan is a free-lance journalist who also hosts "Investigative Journal," http://InvestigativeJournal.com, a nationally syndicated radio program. 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