In a message dated 11/26/00 7:21:02 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


<<Everybody is ALWAYS subjugated to the will of the people. Always. This is
why elites even bother with these expensive political shows called
elections.>>


We are not subjugated by the will of The People, we are subjugated by the
will of The Government that is run by The Corporate Institutions.  There is
what might be called a sembiotic relationship between Government and
Corporations ... Government gives license to Corporations, corporations then
bribe government to subdue the masses.  Laws made by government control
individuals, unconstitutional laws that created the IRS, FBI, CIA, FDA, ATF
etc.  WE did not vote for these agencies.


<<I don't think that the shrinking of government in and of itself, is at all
a bad solution. My problem with that idea is that the same bunch of clowns
don't want to shrink the real perpetrators of power, the corporations and
the
business cartels. If you don't do away with them FIRST, and THEN shrink the
government, we will have no access to any institution capable of controlling
them.>>


Shrink Govenment and remove all the Unconstitutional laws that have been
created over the years, then Corporations do not have the power they control
today.  Bring back States Rights (State=individual countries) limit the
federal government as stated in the Constitution and Corporations literally
have no power.  At the same time limit Corporations ... afterall government
gave Corporations their power to have the same rights as a person.



<<In the mean time, only democracy allows ordinary folks to direct the
government.
I am not prepared to give this up for your flawed elitist gibberish. But I'm
not at all worried that you guys will ever get enough backing among the
great
unwashed, to be anything but annoying.>>


"Democracy" has to be at a local level, not national because then it gets out
of hand.  Local laws should be applied first, then State, then Federal ...
from the bottom up, not from the top down as it is today.  Our Constitution
has good rules if we would just follow them.

Regards,
Bob Stokes




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