-Caveat Lector- -----Original Message----- From: International Justice Watch Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mario Profaca Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Big brother is here / ECHELON > Dutch Defense Minister De Grave today admitted in Parliament > that the Echelon spy system exists, and that most all phone calls, > faxes, e-mails, etc can be monitored and presumably are. > Most countries are said to have similar spy systems. > MP's for several parties said they were shocked by the news. > > Frank "Most countries are said to have similar spy systems"? There is no similar spy system: These countries are under surveillance of the unique global spy system ECHELON and it is amazing indeed if "MP's for several parties said they were shocked by the news". It's so notorious and no news at all, particularly since the European Parliament issued 1998 its special Report about that. AN APPRAISAL OF THE TECHNOLOGIES OF POLITICAL CONTROL http://mprofaca.cro.net/atpc3.html STOA Interim Study Executive Summary September 1998 Updated as a background document for the European Parliament September 1998 part-session (PE 166.499/Int.St./Exec.Sum./en) TABLE OF CONTENTS 1. Introduction 2. Developments in surveillance technology 2.1 Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) Surveillance Networks 2.2 Algorithmic Surveillance Systems 2.3 Bugging & Tapping 2.4 National & International Communications Interception Networks 2.4.1 NSA Interception of all EU Telecommunications 2.4.2 EU-FBI Global Telecommunications Surveillance Systems 2.5 Policy Options --------------- On my Spy News eGroup list one could find a hundred articles, sources, resources and links related to ECHELON. No need to be subscribed to SPY NEWS to read it. Just go to SPY NEWS at http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews and feel free to use search engine found there; submit Echelon as a keyword and you will find anything ever published about the global spy system Echelon. Just some of them: ECHELON was my baby http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1919 Former Agent Tells '60 Minutes' How ECHELON Works http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/6035 Former spy divulges ECHELON details http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1740 ECHELON in Holland http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3977 Hearing On ECHELON In Dutch Parliament http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5310 Duncan Campbell: Inside ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5838 Nicky Hager: Researching ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3964 ECHELON: France urges anti-U.S. spy measures http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/8759 French Report: ECHELON a Threat to Europe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/8811 French ECHELON report says Europe should lock out http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/8812 German EU Delegate Sues 'Unknown' Over ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/9150 German MEP files complaints against 'ECHELON' http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/9152 EU: ECHELON committee starts work http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/11932 EU draws up blueprint of ECHELON inquiry http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/7101 ECHELON: EU Probes High-Tech Spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/7121 ECHELON Committee presents work programme http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/7267 EU Temporary committee on the ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/7270 ECHELON: E.U. Plans U.S. Espionage Probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3313 ECHELON: Euro MPs rally support for Echelon inquire http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3619 ECHELON: US denies stealing business secrets http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3643 ECHELON: U.S. Offers EU Spying Reassurance http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3649 ECHELON: From Maryland to NSA with love http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3378 ECHELON: European Parliament delays decision on ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3650 ECHELON: EU to examine industrial espionage claim http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3658 ECHELON: EU ministers told of industrial spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3674 ECHELON: Brussels outrage at industrial spy ring http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3675 ECHELON: NSA Spying Probed by European Parliament http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2736 US spy system under attack http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2764 France charges U.S. with spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2765 NSA Spying Probed by European Parliament http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2767 European Parliament releases espionage report http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2768 ECHELON: Concern over spying inquiry http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2790 ECHELON: Privacy group sues NSA over spy net http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1453 ECHELON Examined http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1228 ECHELON: Proof of its existence http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5348 ECHELON: How it works http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5349 ECHELON: your files in their hands http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5350 ECHELON: The French fight back http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5351 ECHELON fears could force new laws for America http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5352 ECHELON: The evidence http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5353 ECHELON: World under watch http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5354 U.S. steps up commercial spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5356 ECHELON: NSA/AT&T http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1271 Group Sues to Open Books on Spy Network http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1508 NSA says it won't spy on Americans http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1520 Space invasion of privacy http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/1633 French spies listen in to British calls http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2366 ECHELON: French to sue US and Britain http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2569 Big Brother May Be Spying on You http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2596 ECHELON: Britain's spy posts accused of listening http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2629 NSA Spy Network Violates Civil Liberties http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2689 The new space invaders: Spies in the sky http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2703 ECHELON: Brussels to check US-British 'trade spy http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2724 ECHELON: Thatcher linked to spy order on minister http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2791 Thatcher used ECHELON to spy on Party http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2844 British Lawmaker Suggests Agenda Behind US Spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2796 ECHELON: NSA Offers Congress Explanation http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2866 ECHELON: NSA report to Congress http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2942 Snooping on Friends? http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2919 ECHELON: CIA chief says US doesn't spy for firms http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2944 The ECHELON questions http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/2991 ECHELON: Deutch Says US Economic Spying Targets http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3186 ECHELON: U.S. envoy denies his embassy spies on Danish government http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3881 ECHELON: Excellent Danish website! http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3269 ECHELON: Britain accused of aiding industrial espionage http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3686 ECHELON: Spies Like US http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3690 ECHELON: US and UK deny Echelon spying allegation http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3699 ECHELON: "Espionage's Holy Alliance" http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3721 ECHELON: Ekstra Bladet articles http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3722 ECHELON: The information vacuum cleaner http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3901 ECHELON: Britain warns EU to drop spying debate http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3909 ECHELON: Revelations intensify US-European tensions http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/3965 ECHELON: The great deception http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/4466 NSA memos suggest ECHELON exists http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5308 ECHELON: World under watch, an introduction http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5346 ECHELON: Europe quietly strengthens surveillance http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5347 French prosecutor starts probe into U.S. spy system http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5424 MEPs to vote on 'spying' probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5435 Europeans Vote for ECHELON Inquiry http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5448 France orders ECHELON probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5449 EU to Search for ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5451 U.S. questions need for European spying probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5452 The air has ears: ECHELON feeds US intelligence http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5460 'Echelon Spies for Euro Bribes' http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5463 U.S. Eyes Europe's ECHELON Probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5464 U.S. spy fears rock Europe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5466 Europeans widen probe of US electronic spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5468 Euro Parliament to Probe Charges of U.S. Spying http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5469 Satellite spying? http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5470 Euro Parliament to investigate ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5473 Cyber-Spying Probe http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5475 European parliament launches investigation into ECHELON http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5488 Inquiry snoops on spymasters http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5492 USA: Spying for Free Trade http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5505 New Zealand MP Calls For ECHELON Spy Network Exit http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5531 European Union to investigate US-run satellite spy system http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5546 Giant U.S. spy "vacuum" sparks a global uproar http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5551 Europe sets year-long deadline to track ECHELON network http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5555 Europe seeks truth behind 'spy network' http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5556 Scheme to crash US ECHELON net snoop ops hatched http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5662 Digital surveillance, cyber-policing your business http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5749 Digital Spying? Get Used to It http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5755 U.S. Spy Agency Is Out in the Cold http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5833 ECHELON: Deaf Ears http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/5956 ECHELON knows what you're thinking http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/9316 ECHELON and The Insecurity Industry http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/9482 Swiss link to ECHELON follows satellite sale http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/11350 New Zealand: Sweeping powers for spy agencies http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/9554 International co-operation in internet surveillance http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/10533 History Looks at the NSA http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/12208 ECHELON: Spy base targeted for protests http://www.egroups.com/message/spynews/12608 . . . . . 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