-Caveat Lector-

See a Freerepublic post below. I also do not find the
terrorist theory convincing for a number or reasons.

Donaldson theorizes that Clinton covered it up because
the election was only 15 weeks away and he feared the
American public would hold him responsible and he
would lose the election.

* I don't agree. During Clinton’s Presidency, one
particular character trait that showed itself many
times was his total preoccupation with his continued
political survival. Why would he risk trying to
orchestrate an enormous cover-up of a terrorist act?
The many unforeseen leaks and inevitable
whistleblowers  exposing the cover-up would pose a far
greater threat to his Presidency than simply admitting
that terrorists were responsible.

* If it were terrorists, how would Clinton know what
they were going to do next? Is he going to do nothing
and risk another plane being shot down?

* The FAA reported that TWA Flight 800 disappeared
after what looked like a missile intercepting it.
Obviously, the first thing that must be done is all
commercial aircraft diverted/grounded because they may
shoot another plane down. It didn’t happen, because
Clinton knew that it wasn’t terrorists.

* The main purpose of terrorism is to focus as much
public attention as possible onto your cause, agenda
or grudge. Why didn’t any terroist group claim
responsibility for pulling off this unprecendented
terrorist achievement?
Gavin.



http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad9f5d91adf.htm

TWA 800 "It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been."


I find it increasingly difficult to abide the
statements Cmdr. William Donaldson regarding the
downing of TWA Flight 800. I have no doubt that TWA800
was downed by a missile, but unlike the Commander and
his organization I believe that our own military
accidentally shot the plane down. To paraphrase the
Hubbster. It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been.

I've had some private exchanges in the past with
someone who identified himself as Cmdr. Donaldson's
brother. I would describe the responses I received as
condescending. They avoided my central point which
I'll get to below, but still I said nothing because I
do believe that Cmdr. Donaldson has done some good
work regarding TWA800.

The thing that cause me to snap was a chance vist to
Donaldson's ARAP site to find a link to another TWA800
site. If you go to that page you will find this text:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Warning Areas: Definition from the FAA & Statement by
Cmdr. Donaldson - Much has been made about the
existence or nonexistence of Navy ships in the
vicinity of TWA Flight 800 at the time of the crash.
The proximity of the crash to FAA Warning Area W-105
has led some to believe that the crash was the result
of a Navy exercise gone bad.  The Navy has denied that
any of its ships were in the area.  Others point to
the radar data and claim it is evidence of a "fleet"
entering W-105.  W-105 and W106 are FAA Warning Areas
only.  These areas do not show up on nautical charts
and a check with the US Coast Guard confirms that
there are no military warning areas anywhere off the
south coast of Long Island.  Further reviews of
"Notices to Mariners" confirm that there were no
maritime exercises scheduled in the immediate vicinity
of W-105 & W-106 in the month of July, 1996.  These
same Notice to Mariners show scheduled firing
exerecises off the coast of MASS, but nowhere near
Long Island.  It is clear from this review that W-105
and W-106 are Aviation Warning Areas only, so any
implication that radar showing ships entering the area
proves they were Navy ships, is clearly inappropriate.
Cmdr. Donaldson believes that the radar data could
just as easily show commercial and sport fishermen out
fishing and nothing more.  You decide.  - 1-25-01
I decided.
This is such obvious shilling for the Navy. Look at
that stuff that Donaldson puts in red. Then look at
this quote from the legend on that appears on New York
Sectional charts (issued by NOAA intended for use by
Visual Flight Rules pilots) in the area marked W-105
just south of Long Island:

Warning. National Defense Operating Areas. Operations
hazardous to the flight of aircraft conducted within
these areas.
I don't know too much about mariners or "Notices to
Mariners." I don't know whether mariners have their
own "W-105s" but the warning areas like W-105 that
pilots need to know about have ceilings like "To but
not including FL180." (FL180 means 18,000 feet. Not
many boats at FL180!) So his prattling about these
areas not showing up on nautical charts and checking
with the Coast Guard is just too disingenuous.
Maybe he should have checked with the FAA. According
to a number of sources W-105 was activated the evening
that TWA 800 went down, and it is only activated
several times a year. (Ian Goddard cites Aerospace
Daily (08/28/96) as saying: "FAA sources and the Navy
acknowledged yesterday...that the area known as
Whiskey 105, or W-105, was activated at the time of
the TWA accident... ". James Sanders in his Downing of
TWA Flight 800 provides a copy of a Navy document
addressed to the FAA which apparently was a request to
activate the warning area.

And what of the claim that mariners were not warned as
pilots apparently were? Ian Goddard cites a CNN report
of an earlier incidence of naval fire along the east
coast, and reports that there were no relevant Coast
Guard notices of live-fire activity for the entire
month in which that incident occurred. I guess they
just forgot.


It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been.

Prior to today I have only shared this analysis
privately. I believe it conclusively demonstrates that
TWA 800 was not shot down by terrorists utilizing
shoulder fired missiles as Cmdr. Donaldson suggests.

At Donaldson's site there is a link to a Janes article
describing the capabilities of these missiles.
According to this article, the maximum altitude of the
Stinger missile is 3800 meters or about 12,350 feet.
Now everyone knows that TWA 800 was probably at 13,772
feet (last altitude recorded by FDR) when it was
stricken. Donaldson's answer to this via his "brother"
is that some of these Stingers have been modified to
work up to 15,000 feet by people in Afghanistan though
I cannot find this repeated at his site.

Let us grant that there are some Donaldson missiles
somewhere that are effective up to 15,000 feet. No
terrorist would have attempted to use such a missile
to bring down TWA800, or any other jet departing JFK
for Europe, from a position south of the Hamptons
because such planes are normally flying level at
19,000 feet for five minutes before they reach that
position. This can be verified from the FAA transcript
from the Boston ARTCC that evening. TWA800 was the
only Europe bound departure not to have reached 19,000
feet well west of the Hamptons. In fact TWA 800 was
told to climb to 19,000 but within a minute it was
asked to stop at 13,000 to allow for crossing traffic
inbound to Providence.

It is not the altitude where TWA800 was, but the
altitude that it would be expected to be that would be
of interest to someone planning to shoot it down. Any
operation smart enough to have a Stinger or two would
be smart enough know that airliners are already well
beyond the range of these weapons by the time they
reach the Hamptons. No terrorists would lie in wait as
far east as the Hamptons with a missile that could
only reach 15,000 feet.. I also believe that they
would not shoot at a plane climbing over the water,
but rather one descending over land (which is the
normal approach into JFK). Here one could shoot from
some unused school ground, cause much greater havoc,
and make a getaway by car on the Long Island
Expressway, rather than at 30 knots max in the
Atlantic Ocean.

Of course a lower than expected altitude for TWA800
would increase the chance of an accidental conflict
with the testing that was apparently going on that
evening in W-105. Those interested in some
documentation about that activity might visit Tom
Shoemaker's report on "Global Yankee." Meanwhile Cmdr.
Donaldson can believe that those radar images of boats
fleeing the area were just "sport fishermen." Once
Navy, always Navy, I guess.

ML/NJ



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