-Caveat Lector- I couldn't agree with Mr. Dutter more! visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 10:18:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SNET: Bogus Claims of Unconstitutionality -> SNETNEWS Mailing List I would suggest some folks read about the concept of "enumerated powers" and read the writings of the founders wrt the tenth Ammendment. The Federalist papers and Madisons notes on the debates of the constitutional convention are particularly apropos. The STATES have the power to make law in any concievable direction where the STATE legislative votes are available to get such passed unless in contradiction to enumerated Federal Powers. It is the FEDERAL sphere of powers that was purposely limited to ONLY what was stated in the constitution. The understanding of the fathers was that the Feds were specifically limited to powers directly given in the constitution or that could be clearly connected to those powers. The Feds are specifically prohibited from having carte blanche levels of power. A single centralized authoritarian govenment ruling on every sphere of life like the current Federal system was anathema to the founders. What is the CONSTITUTIONAL foundation for FEDERAL mandates wrt the environment? There has to be a demonstrated direct connection to an ENUMERATED power for a FEDERAL law to be constitutional. The subjective label of "bogus" is not objective evidence. What is the constitutional basis for your objection Steve? Because the 10th Ammendment clearly means that powers not specifically mentioned in the constitution or powers not directly connected to an enumerated power are by definition unconstitutional, and reserved for lower levels of government. Where is the direct connection Steve? On Sat, 19 May 2001 22:25:42 -0700 Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >-> SNETNEWS Mailing List > >It appears that some people who are claiming that certain laws are >'unconsitutional' do not understand the Constitution very well. The >Constitution gives the authority to determine if a law enacted by >Congress >is Constitutional or not, to the Courts, not by the opinion of the >citizens of >the US. > >To claim otherwise shows a complete lack of understanding of the basis >of >rule by law as spelled out in our Constitution, upon which this great >nation >was founded. > >Steve > >ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES >http://www.anomalous-images.com > >-> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==^================================================================ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?b1ddDh.b2B0gP Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================ <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om