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Steve , do you believe this info? If so, do you think McVeigh should
have been executed?
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:52:00 -0700 Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> The OKC Bombing Chronology
> You're NOT Supposed To Know
> From Brasscheck
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 6-14-1
>
> "Sgt. McVeigh was an outstanding soldier.
> He did what he
> was told, anticipated what had to be done
> (and) took pride
> in his work,"
>
> - Capt. Jesus Angel Rodriguez, McVeigh's
> commanding
> officer during the Gulf War, testifying at
> his sentencing
> hearing
>
> ____
>
>
>
> It's called a Reichstag Fire
>
> The OKC Chronology you're not supposed to
> know
>
> 1. A second bomb found inside the building
>
> SUSANNE SEALY, Correspondent: Yes, LEA
> [sp], I can.
> The Oklahoma City police and the FBI have
> confirmed
> there is another bomb in the Federal
> Building. It's in the
> east side of the building. They've moved
> everybody back
> several blocks.
>
> CNN SHOW: NEWS 11:27 am ET - LIVE April
> 19, 1995
> Transcript # 920-19
>
> 2. Forget the people, get those papers
>
> OKLAHOMA CITY -- Hours after a bomb ripped
> apart the
> federal building, some rescue workers were
> stopped from
> searching for survivors while federal
> officials removed
> boxes of documents.
>
> "You'd think they would have let their
> evidence and files
> sit at least until the last survivor was
> pulled out," one
> angry rescue worker told The News.
>
> The worker and a firefighter said that 10
> to 12 hours after
> the 9 a.m. blast April 19, federal
> officials began limiting the
> number of rescue workers in the building
> to a dozen,
> confining them largely to the lower right
> side of the
> battered structure.
>
> Source: New York Daily News
>
> 3. FBI quietly drops pursuit of John Doe
> No. 2
>
> Denver, Colo. -- An internal FBI memo
> indicates FBI
> agents suspended their search for the
> elusive Oklahoma
> City bomb suspect John Doe No. 2 in the
> critical weeks
> soon after the April 1995 blast, belying
> assurances by
> federal officials at the time that the
> search was continuing.
>
> The memo, the existence of which is
> publicly disclosed for
> the first time here, undercuts the
> government contention
> that federal agents have done everything
> they can to find
> the mystery suspect...
>
> In the memo, San Francisco-based FBI agent
> Thomas
> Ravenelle writes that he's discontinuing
> efforts to
> investigate a lead relating to attempts to
> find and identify
> John Doe No. 2 "in view of the fact that
> the Oklahoma City
> Command Post has directed all offices to
> hold (John Doe
> No. 2) leads in abeyance."
>
> Source: 1997 Digital City Denver
>
> 4. McVeigh's first confession faked by
> newspaper
>
> "The document containing a purported
> confession by
> alleged Oklahoma City bomber Timothy J.
> McVeigh,
> published by the Dallas Morning News, was
> fabricated by
> an investigator for the defense team, a
> friend of the
> investigator said yesterday."
>
> The Washington Post 03/05/97 By Lois
> Romano and Tom
> Kenworthy, Washington Post Staff Writers
>
> 5. DOJ report calls FBI's OJC bomb blast
> conclusions:
> "incomplete... inappropriate...
> scientifically insupportable"
>
> "Williams' report contains several serious
> flaws. His
> opinion as to the VOD of the main charge
> was
> unjustifiable; his statement of the VOD of
> ANFO was
> incomplete; his categorical identification
> of the main
> charge as ANFO was inappropriate; his
> estimate of the
> weight of the main charge was too specific
> and based in
> part on improper grounds; his conclusion
> as to the
> containers for the main charge was
> unjustifiably
> categorical; his categorical
> identification of the initiator for
> the booster was improper; his conclusions
> concerning a
> non-electric detonator, the fuse, and the
> time delay were
> scientifically insupportable; his
> conclusions were not
> supported by the contents of the report;
> and he included
> some AE dictation in a selective or
> confusing way. These
> errors were all tilted in such a way as to
> incriminate the
> defendants. We are troubled that the
> opinions in Williams'
> report may have been tailored to conform
> to the evidence
> associated with the defendants. We
> conclude that
> Williams failed to present an objective,
> unbiased,
> competent report."
>
> Source: The FBI Laboratory: An
> Investigation into
> Laboratory Practices and Alleged
> Misconduct in
> Explosives-Related and Other Cases
> (April,1997) - A
> USDOJ/OIG Special Report
>
>
> http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/fbilab1/fbil1toc.htm
>
> ============================
>
> * A timely terrorist
>
> He wanted to start a revolution, but even
> with years of
> prison to sort out his thoughts he never
> found the time to
> write even the briefest of manifestos.
> Fellow inmates said
> he spent his time reading car magazines.
>
> He wanted to protest the murder of
> innocent women and
> children - so he murdered innocent women
> and children.
>
> He was a crack marksman, good enough to
> reportedly
> haven taken the head off an Iraqi soldier
> in a machine gun
> nest at 1,000 yards - but he chose a
> complex truck bomb,
> something he had no training or experience
> with, to
> deliver his violent message.
>
> Tim McVeigh was a most convenient and
> cooperative
> terrorist.
>
> The government wanted the world to believe
> that a single
> truck bomb loaded with fertilizer
> destroyed the Murrah
> Building - and at the end of his life,
> McVeigh apparently
> told two journalists that the story was
> true. That he lit the
> fuse personally in traffic while on the
> way to the building.
> You can read all about it in the mass
> market book that
> came out just before the execution.
>
> The country needed someone to be arrested
> quickly, sit in
> jail for a few years, not implicate anyone
> else and then die
> at the hands of an executioner in order
> that the nation
> might "heal" - and he proved to be the
> right man for the
> job.
>
> The government apparently wanted him gone
> fast, due
> process be damned - and he seemed to have
> no problem
> with that.
>
> A Constitution-shredding anti-terrorist
> bill languished in
> Congress, unpassable, and needed a massive
> demonstration of extreme violence against
> the federal
> government and innocent people - and Sgt.
> McVeigh
> delivered a Ryder truck to the front of
> the Murrah Building
> right on time.
>
> A remarkable confluence of purposes for
> two forces
> supposedly at odds with each other.
>
> =======
>
> * Dead and gone?
>
> Just in case you're curious, Timothy
> McVeigh's body won't
> be autopsied, reportedly at his request,
> even though
> though conducting an autopsy of executed
> prisoners is
> standard procedure in US prisons. Federal
> Judge Richard
> Matsch, who made the ruling, must have a
> heart after all.
>
> In addition to the no autopsy ruling, a
> signed agreement
> between McVeigh and the government states
> that
> pictures, X-rays and other medical
> information gathered
> by the coroner's office after McVeigh's
> death will remain
> confidential.
>
> Source:
> http://www.crimelynx.com/mcvautop.html
>
> The body will be cremated. By now, it may
> already have
> been - again at McVeigh's request and with
> Judge
> Richard Matsch's approval.
>
> The execution itself?
>
> Here's an excerpt of the first eye witness
> account of the
> execution broadcast by MSNBC just minutes
> after it was
> over:
>
> "The shallow breathing continued... or
> what appeared to
> be shallow breathing... even after they
> pronounced him
> dead." - Susan Carlson. Reporter. WLS
> Chicago
>
> See her say it yourself in streaming video
> before it's taken
> down:
> http://www.apfn.org/movies/mcveigh-lives.WMV
>
> The execution was not videotaped, again by
> court order,
> so all we know of what happened at the end
> are from the
> eye witness accounts.
>
> No body. No video. No photographs. Not
> even an X-ray -
> and a sealed coroner's report.
>
> Did "Timothy McVeigh" die on Monday?
>
> It depends on which one you mean...
>
> The one on the left, the McVeigh we know
> from the
> media? Or the one on the right, a man
> identified as an
> ATF agent photographed during the Waco
> Branch
> Davidian trial (published months before
> the OKC
> bombing.)
>
> (Pics here:
>
> http://www.busprod.com/hellion/okc/IMAGES/atf-tim.jpg)
>
> Call it a Reichstag Fire.
>
> No one believed the audacity of it in 1933
> either.
>
> ================
>
> * History Lesson
>
> "On Feb. 27, 1933, a fire destroyed part
> of the Reichstag
> building. Hitler immediately accused the
> Communists of
> having set the fire. President von
> Hindenburg proclaimed
> a state of emergency and issued decrees
> suspending
> freedom of speech and assembly."
>
> The following day a law was passed ...
>
> "People were not sent to Dachau as a
> punishment for a
> crime after being convicted by a court of
> law, but rather as
> a preventive measure because they were
> suspected of
> being a danger to the state. Such a person
> was called a
> Schutzhäftling and the order for
> preventive custody was a
> Schutzhaftbefehl. Prisoners who were
> arrested and taken
> to Dachau were told: "Based on Article One
> of the Decree
> of the Reich President for the Protection
> of People and
> State of 28 February 1933, you are taken
> into protective
> custody (Schutzhaft) in the interest of
> public security and
> order. Reason: suspicion of activities
> inimical to the
> State."
>
> And remember, if you speak against the
> state, you're a
> dangerous nut, just like that Timothy
> McVeigh...And he
> sure got what he deserved, didn't he?
>
>
>
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