-Caveat Lector- You may find some answers to your many questions by looking into the UN and the Rockefeller Population Control Program. Keep in mind that it was Rockefeller and Carnegie who were largely responsible for the founding of the United Nations and also the failed League of Nations. Ther is a relatively small group of elitists who would like to have this world to themselves. Check out some of the speeches relating to UN strategy meetings around the globe, and the web of organizations they have been using to diminish and even destroy our freedoms. Yours truly, Cliff Hume At 11:49 PM 8/4/01 -0700, you wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >------- Forwarded message follows ------- >Date sent: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:57:11 +0000 >From: Robert Sterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Konformist: Viruses as global population control? >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] > >------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> >Small business owners... >Tell us what you think! >http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM >---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > >Please send as far and wide as possible. > >Thanks, > >Robert Sterling >Editor, The Konformist >http://www.konformist.com > > >http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23838 >Worldnet Daily 7/29/2001 >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >---------- >SUNDAY Q&A >Viruses as global population control? >Geoff Metcalf interviews bio-terrorism expert Dr. Len Horowitz >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >---------- > >Editor's note: In recent years, allegations have surfaced in the >press suggesting that the U.S. government has had a hand in >suppressing information about such matters as disease-tainted blood, >pathogenic contamination of vaccines and Gulf War Syndrome. One >example: A growing number of medical researchers reportedly are >worried that a monkey virus which contaminated polio vaccines given >to tens of millions of Americans in the 1950s and '60s may now be >causing rare human cancers. > >Are such allegations true? And, if true, why would anyone want to >cover up such important information? > >Today, WorldNetDaily staff writer and talk-show host Geoff Metcalf >talks with acclaimed author, health-rights activist and bio-terrorism >expert Dr. Len Horowitz and asks him hard questions about these and >other related matters. > >Metcalf's daily streaming radio show can be heard on TalkNetDaily >weekdays from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern time. > >By Geoff Metcalf >© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com > >Question: Len, for four decades, government officials have insisted >that there is no evidence the simian virus called SV40 is harmful to >humans. However, I remember a decade ago you telling me about the >dangers of vaccines tainted with simian virus. Now, apparently, in >recent years, dozens of scientific studies have found the virus in a >steadily increasing number of rare brain, bone and lung-related >tumors – the same malignant cancer SV40 causes in lab animals. > >Answer: You know what they are telling you is actually a suppressed >version of the truth. The Bible says a half-truth is a whole lie. >That's what this is. Essentially what they are saying is that they >have discovered that polio vaccines up to about 1965, or there about, >had been infected with a monkey cancer virus known as SV40 – and that >all the other polio vaccines are safe. > >Q: Not true? > >A: That is hogwash. In fact up through the 1990s, all the polio >vaccines – the Sabin oral polio vaccines, the little sugar cubes that >we all took – essentially contained as many as 100 of these simian >monkey cancer contaminates per dose. In fact, the Food and Drug >administration that we think is protecting our children's health and >safety, and our own, has actually had to turn a blind eye to this >because their hands were tied. > >Q: How so? > >A: By proprietary laws and non-disclosure agreements forced upon them >by the pharmaceutical industry. > >Q: There was an amazingly revolting sidebar to the long story I >referenced earlier. Apparently they wanted to follow up with the oral >vaccine so they did a study and they didn't tell the participants >what they were doing, and they selected low-income blacks. I was >shocked. Hell-o? This is Tuskegee all over again. > >A: You might be referring to the Kaiser Permanente easy measles >vaccine given to about 1,200 black children – it blew out all their >immune systems, left several of them dead and, ultimately, the rest >of them suffering for the rest of their lives. > >Q: No, it was Cleveland General Hospital – early '60s. > >A: Well, we had actually about a year or two ago the same type of >thing happen to black children in California at Kaiser Permanente – >which is the nation's leading vaccine laboratory – for human >experimentation. They did the same thing to black children. And what >the CDC director said in defense after the horrible truth got out >was, "Sorry. Sometimes these things just fall through the cracks." > >Q: Bullfeathers! They specifically chose low-income black families >with doses ranging up to 100 times the dose recommended for adults. >They did it because these people aren't going to scream about it. You >get into this more in your new book, "Death in the Air" – when is it >coming out? > >A: It's coming out officially August 1st. However, WorldNetDaily >already has it. > >Q: I'm anxious to read the book and see the documentation. Meanwhile, >in your previous work about AIDS, Ebola and all these emerging >viruses – you are of the opinion that these things aren't happening >spontaneously – they are not accidental and, in fact, they are man >made. Right? > >A: Exactly right. That's what the book "Emerging Viruses: AIDS and >Ebola" does best. It's the definitive expose on who made these types >of viruses, when they made them, how they made them, and why they >made them. > >Q: So it wasn't an accident with some rhesus monkey biting somebody >and one guy starting the nightmare? > >A: Exactly. However, yes, AIDS came from African monkeys. But what >they don't tell you – and what we show in "Emerging Viruses" – is >what they did to those monkeys. > >Q: What did they do to the monkeys? > >A: They simply took the monkey viruses – including the one you were >talking about earlier, the SV40, the 40th monkey virus ever >discovered. It was already known in 1961 to cause cancer in virtually >every animal it was injected into – and therefore it was in fact >predicted by the top official at the FDA (the Bureau of Biologics at >the time) that we could expect epidemics of cancer unlike the world >has ever seen within 20 years of the polio vaccine. Her name is >Bernice Eddy and she said that in front of Congress in 1972. It took >almost a decade before she got to Congress and told the legislators >that is what they could expect if they allowed the continued >contaminated vaccines, the polio vaccines particularly, to go out. >What the vast majority of incriminating evidence in "Emerging >Viruses" relays is the fact that the Army's sixth top biological- >weapons developer, Litton Bionetics – that had the contract to supply >the monkeys for the vaccine manufacturers – essentially also had the >contract to develop numerous AIDS-like and Ebola-like viruses during >a largely funded and mostly secret "special virus-cancer program" >that ran from February 12, 1962 to the mid 1970s. > >Q: There are a lot of different theories about this, but the obvious >question that always comes up is, if in fact this was done as you >claim, how do you control the genie once you let it out of the >bottle? Obviously if folks are involved in a nefarious covert >operation like this, they want to protect themselves and their >families – how do they avoid getting infected by it? > >A: That's a very good question. Let me say this first: The fact is >that this genie is largely, perhaps not entirely, but largely under >control. The controlling agencies – and heavily implicated are people >linked to Litton, the Rockefeller complex – are also the directors of >the population councils that call for a 50 percent United States >population reduction. There are the population controllers all over >the world. > >Q: That has been a U.N. objective for at least 30 years, to reduce >world population by 50 percent. > >A: Yes. So that if you get government documents that I have in my >library and I reference in "Emerging Viruses" – which were actually >given to me by a Pentagon official – you see that in the projections >of what AIDS will do even if it kills off 30 to 35 percent of the >population, this government report states that is simply not enough. >They want somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 percent population >reduction. So when I look at AIDS, there are sure some "untargeted' >victims – what might be considered casualties of war. > >Q: Collateral damage? > >A: Yes. But I think that having just returned from Africa and seeing >the devastation there – and I'm still recovering emotionally – this >is what was called for, not only Henry Kissinger's 1971 publication, >National Security Memorandum 200 that we draw on largely in the >book "Emerging Viruses" to lay out the whole center of the book which >deals with the targeting of black people and third world nations for >depopulation – and by Kissinger who, according to two CIA directors, >oversaw all the CIA's biological weapons development programs as well >as virtually ordered the development of these types of viruses. > >Q: Let's get back to my original question. How do they prevent their >families, their loved ones, themselves from becoming collateral >damage? > >A: OK, good. The answer is that the therapies that have been >effective have been suppressed. Essentially, what we are looking at >is standard Machiavellian theory and practice. > >Q: You mean they have an antidote? > >A: Yes. There are. In fact, when you go through the research, you see >that when Dr. Robert Gallo was overseeing Litton Bionetics and the >National Cancer Institutes project in developing these types of >unique, bizarre, immune-suppressive leukemia, lymphoma, sarcoma >cancer viruses, they were developing antidotes every step along the >way. We proved that. We showed the documentation. There is no >question about that. But what is more interesting to me is that >therapies such as oxygenation and bioelectric therapies which can >blow out the viruses – because you know the AIDS virus cannot live in >oxygen. > >Q: No. I didn't know that. > >A: And essentially that has been heavily suppressed by the >Rockefellers and the blood bankers who would prefer, instead of >cleaning up the blood that they could through oxygenation >technologies, that they simply allowed these contaminated blood >supplies and vaccinations to go out. What that creates is an economic >boom for the pharmaceutical companies – which they also control. > >Q: In other words, they create the problem before they offer a >solution to the problem? > >A: Standard Machiavellian theory and practice. > >Q: What do you mean when you say "the techtronic era" is here? > >A: That is in regard to the most advanced methods of killing >populations. First coercing them, enslaving them, as well as killing >them. That is essentially what the book "Death in the Air" deals >with. Brzezinski made the quote famous – the term techtronic – that >was in his book. We draw on that somewhat but actually go in way >beyond that in dealing with the military think-tanks of United States >and NATO and begin to look at how what is called "non-lethal" warfare >is conducted. > >What we have been talking about is in fact non-lethal warfare. Where >you don't kill populations like in a bomb or a gunshot but you make >them sick. You then make them dependent on pharmaceuticals which are >actually a military-pharmaceutical complex run by the same players – >the global elite – and then ultimately these populations become >enslaved to the pharmaceuticals and economically debilitated along >with their nation states. > >Q: I recently saw a piece which dovetails with what we are talking >about. The headline was "U.S. will refuse to sign germ-weapons >treaty." It said, "America was heading for a new confrontation with >its allies yesterday after it emerged that the Bush administration >will refuse to accept an arms-control deal to enforce a ban on >biological weapons." Hey, connect the dots. > >A: Well, they are using and deploying biological weapons all over the >place. Take for example, this upper-respiratory infection that won't >quit; that about half the United States population currently has, >where multiple antibiotics and physician visits simply can't treat >this hard-to-diagnose illness; that doctors say is a "flu-like" >illness. But it's not a virus, so it's not a flu. What it is, is a >mycoplasma agent that we discussed earlier in last year's book. > >Q: Is that the same thing that the feds released over San Francisco >in the '50s? > >A: No, that's a different one – and a couple of other agents too that >they were using that also wreaked havoc with people's immune systems, >as well as caused respiratory problems. But, no, this is a real, >targeted weapon. It is a cross between a bacteria and a virus. It's >called mycoplasma. I previously reprinted the patent – the United >States government patent by Dr. Lothsome of the Armed Forces >Institute of Pathology for the development of this agent that he >discusses at length in scientific literature. > >Q: How do you hold these bastards accountable for what you claim they >are doing? > >A: I don't think we can. I've struck out on Capitol Hill. The only >thing that we can do is wake people up to what is going on and then, >because the primary risks are contaminated blood and contaminated >vaccine. It just came out that more people are dying – about 200,000 >people are dying from physician-induced illnesses and >misappropriation of drugs versus about 15,000 are dying from gunshot >wounds. > >Q: How can they call it "non-lethal" biological and chemical weapons >and warfare applications when people are dying? > >A: That's exactly the point. Just the name of it – they named it that >so that they could allow more people to say, "Well, it's not really >killing people." But it is. It's killing people slowly, and in the >process they are making vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering. > >Q: Do you have any advocates in congress at all? > >A: We don't have anyone brave enough to really stand up. I'll give >you an example: Dan Burton. Burton's congressional investigating >committee began to investigate exactly what we are talking about – >the links between contaminated vaccination and biological weapons >contractors and military operations … > >Q: Wait a minute: A while back, Senator Riegle did something – over >10 years ago, didn't he? > >A: He investigated Gulf War Syndrome and he came up with a tremendous >amount of very valuable information – and then he got hell for it. >More recently, around last October, Dan Burton's committee actually >called me – because the word got out from all the books I've >published on the issues and the documentation that backs it – they >called me, the hearings administrator called me, and said, "Dr. >Horowitz can you please send us your documentation?" > >Q: And? > >A: I was pleased to, on my dime, send everything overnight and a copy >of the book "Emerging Viruses." I got a call about two weeks later >and I was invited – they said, "Dr. Horowitz, we would like to have >you attend, if you care to." I said that's wonderful. I'll make my >plane reservations right away. And I said, I'll prepare a testimony, >is that right? She said, "Oh no. You misunderstand me. We're just >inviting you to the hearings. We're not going to ask you to testify." >So I told them I didn't want to come under those conditions. > >Q: Wait a minute. They wanted all your documentation but didn't want >to hear from you? > >A: I heard a couple of days later that they simply didn't want to >hear me testify because, "your material is like throwing boulders on >the top of legislators heads. At this point, we prefer to just wake >them up a little bit by throwing a few pebbles." > >Q: Meanwhile people are dying. > >A: That's exactly what I said, Geoff. I said, that's very nice. It >wouldn't bother me, if there weren't millions of people dying whose >blood is on your hands. > >Q: What, if any, regulatory, oversight, investigative group is there? >I recently saw an article noting the CDC can't even admit that >condoms don't work as well as they want. You can't count on them. > >A: There are none. Allegedly, we have the Center for Disease Control >as well as the Food and Drug Administration protecting our health and >safety. In fact, the book "Death in the Air" does a slam-dunk on >these people to show the documents that prove that public health is >misnamed. >Today we are going to get vaccinated full of contaminated vaccines >that deliver monkey cancer viruses and a hideous array of other >things for the [purpose of]: "public health" for "infection >prevention." There are no regulating agencies. Those regulating >agencies that we think are supporting us and our children's health >and safety are actually puppets of these literally international >chemical-pharmaceutical cartel elitists. > >Q: One of the more distressing clams is that the agencies we >anticipate to provide some kind of oversight and protection either >don't exist or are not doing their job. However, somebody has got to >manage this effort? > >A: I believe that is definitely the case. Again, I would say who is >at the hub of the wheel is the Rockefeller family. Everything from >the spraying of malathion produced by Chevron, a Rockefeller company, >to the creation of West Nile virus outbreaks – or alleged outbreaks – >along the eastern seaboard; this again was managed entirely by all >the organizations that fall under the thumb of the Rockefeller >complex. You're looking at the international bankers. You're looking >at the global elite. What some people call oligarchy, some people >call illuminati. In essence there are about 13 families that have >virtually all the financial control that run the world economies. And >these people also are committing genocide. That's simply defined as >the mass killing of people for economic, political and/or ideological >reasons. That's what's going on. You've got global genocide. > >Q: That is a harsh charge. Why? > >A: You've got people that are being taken out because the people who >run the economies have a desire to reduce half of the world >population simply because smaller populations are easier to control. >And they have all the money they need – it's not about making money >anymore in this New World Order thing. > >Q: It's about control. > >A: Absolutely. > >Q: Is there any gadfly that can help. Riegle did a magnificent job in >his hearings. I have hard copies of them, although you can't order >them anymore. If not a Dan Burton, is there a Bob Barr or Ron Paul or >someone? Ron Paul is a doctor! Is there someone who is willing to >even look at your material? > >A: I'm very disappointed in Ron Paul, who supposedly represents our >entire bent on these issues. I personally went into Ron Paul's >office. Unfortunately, at that time, he was running for re-election >and he didn't have any time for me. All they are concerned about is >getting re-elected and raising funds to do that. And that's the >problem. > >Q: So where does that leave "we the people"? > >A: It leaves us with having to gain knowledge in round about ways. >For example, WorldNetDaily is a fantastic resource for this sort of >thing. We have to find alternative venues for the information. And, >secondly, what to do? Like Jesus once said, "My people die of lack of >applied knowledge." Now that we have the knowledge, what does it >mean? Turn to alternatives. Alternative therapies. The five steps for >preparing your temple of God to defend itself against these current >and coming plagues: Creating detox strategies, acidification to make >the viruses and bacteria and yeast and cancer cells disappear out of >your body, boosting immunity every way possible. Again, steps four >and five have been heavily suppressed by these same people who bring >on the diseases. Oxygenation is miraculous, and bioelectric >technologies. Stuff based on Nicola Tesla's work – all of these are >fantastic and have been heavily suppressed. > >Q: Len, this stuff has been going on since at least the '50s that we >know of. Are we going to have more of these ubiquitous viruses coming >out eventually? > >A: Yes. That's exactly what is going on. And you are right, exactly, >dating it too. > >Q: I'm sorry, we're crunched on time, but after I read your new >book "Death in the Air," we'll do this again soon. > >A: Geoff, we are publishing the illuminati code. 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